Continue learning the גמרא דף מה: “אמר ליה אביי לרב יוסף (ten lines before the wide lines) until דף מו. “ומאי אמר ר’ יוחנן (eight lines from top of Amud)
Review the גמרא דף מה: “ומי אמר ר’ יוחנן” (middle of the Amud) until “כי אתא רב יצחק בר’ יוסף”
Question:
How is the fact that ר’ יוחנן said a קינה של תרנגולים is Muktzah a proof that he holds like ר”י in regards to Muktzah and not like ר”ש?
See רש'”י “אלא לתרנגולים
Learn גמרא דף לה: “לפי שאין (third to last line) until דף לו. “ומאי (fifth line of the Amud)
Questions:
How does Rashi explain the split between ר”ש and ר”י whether חצוצרות are Muktzah?
Does ר”ש hold one is prohibited to move a כלי שמלאכתו לאיסור to prevent it from getting ruined?
Learn תוס’ דף לה: והתניא (first two lines)
Does ר”י hold one can move a כלי שמלאכתו לאיסור for לצורך גופו או מקומו?
Learn תוס’ דף לו. “הא (first two lines)
Based on Tosfos position in regards to a כלי שמלאכתו לאיסור how is the fact that ר’ יוחנן said a קינה של תרנגולים is Muktzah a proof that he holds like ר”י in regards to Muktzah and not like ר”ש?
Learn תוס’ דף לו. “הא (starting from “אבל חצוצרות אסר until the end of Tosfos)
Topic: Pets on Shabbos
Learn תוס’ “הכא
Questions:
Why are live animals Muktzah?
What is the point of argument between the two opinions in Tosfos whether a baby chick is Muktzah?
Learn the גמרא דף מה: “ורבי לית ליה מוקצה (third line) until “ומי אמר ר’ יוחנן” (middle of the Amud)
Questions:
Why would ר”ש agree that certain herding animals are muktzah and may not be slaughtered on Yom Tov?
How are they similar to גרוגרות וצימוקים?
What is the deciding factor to make something Muktzah according to ר”ש?
Questions:
Tosfos explains that fruits placed on a rooftop to dry out are not Muktzah according to ר”ש although they are not so enjoyable to eat. They are still considered edible.
What is the chidush according to Tosfos that פצעילי תמרה are not Muktzah according to ר”ש?
What is the הוה אמינא that פצעילי תמרה should be more Muktzah than other fruits which are not so ripe and are not Muktzah?
Learn תוס’ ביצה דף מ. “פצעילי
How is Tosfos explanation different than Rashi?
At what point do גרוגרות וצימוקים become Muktzah? – the second Shabbos starts even if they are still edible, or only after they become inedible?
If when Shabbos started they were not ripe and in the middle of Shabbos they became edible, may one eat them?
Quickly review the גמרא דף מה. “הכי נמי מסתברא (top of the Amud) until בעי מיניה
Learn תוס’ הכי נמי
Questions:
If it’s a real danger to keep the menorah outside why do we need to rely on Rebbe Shimon opinion? It should be permitted even according to Rebbe Yehuda?
Learn the גמרא דף מה. “הכי נמי מסתברא (top of the Amud) until בעי מיניה
Learn תוס’ הכי נמי
Questions:
If it’s a real danger to keep the menorah outside why do we need to rely on Rebbe Shimon opinion? It should be permitted even according to Rebbe Yehuda?
Learn תוס’ “מקמי
Major Question:
Even if we rely on Rebbe Shimon that only tells us that we don’t say מיגו דאתקצאי – the menorah does not remain in state of Muktza as if it was lit.
But it should still be prohibited to move the menorah as it is at least a כלי שמלאכתו לאיסור?
The Magen Avraham quotes the Rambam who states in the case money was left on the wheel of a wagon and the wheel is permanently affixed to the wagon although the wagon does not become a Bosis to the money one must shake off the money if it’s possible before moving the wagon.
Quickly review תוס’ דף מד: “הא
Learn ה’ רע”א ס’ ש”י סע’ ז “אין צריך לנער who brings a proof from Tosfos that he argues on the Rambam and does not require the money to be shaken off.
Why is this different than any case of one who forgot Muktza on top of an item although the item does not become a Bosis if possible one must shake off the Muktza before the item as stated in the משנה דף קמב עמ’ ב?
See חזון איש או”ח ס’ מז ס”ק ה
Bottom Line Halacha:
Questions:
Does one need to shake out the money from the pants pocket before moving it?
Does it matter if the money was left inside by accident or intentionally?
The Magen Avraham differentiates between different types of pockets. What is the difference?
May one move a desk in which the drawer contains Muktzah?
Does it matter in the value of the Muktzah item in the drawer?
In a case where there is a Muktzah item in the drawer but a non Muktza item on the top of the desk. May one move the desk
Review the רמ”א ס’ ש”י סע’ ז and learn משנה ברורה ס”ק כט-לא
We learnt the רמ”א ס’ ש”י סע’ ז who rules like Tosfos & the Rashba of Muktza is placed on ancillary part of an item the entire item does not become a bosis.