Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah: Muktza יום שני, Tamuz 2דף מה: (07/13/26) 8

Learn the גמרא דף מה: “ורבי לית ליה מוקצה (third line) until “ומי אמר ר’ יוחנן” (middle of the Amud) 

Questions:

Why would ר”ש agree that certain herding animals are muktzah and may not be slaughtered on Yom Tov? 

How are they similar to גרוגרות וצימוקים?

What is the deciding factor to make something Muktzah according to ר”ש?

Questions: 

Tosfos explains that fruits placed on a rooftop to dry out are not Muktzah according to ר”ש although they are not so enjoyable to eat. They are still considered edible.  

What is the chidush according to Tosfos that פצעילי תמרה are not Muktzah according to ר”ש? 

What is the הוה אמינא that פצעילי תמרה should be more Muktzah than other fruits which are not so ripe and are not Muktzah?

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How is Tosfos explanation different than Rashi?

At what point do גרוגרות וצימוקים become Muktzah? – the second Shabbos starts even if they are still edible, or only after they become inedible?

If when Shabbos started they were not ripe and in the middle of Shabbos they became edible, may one eat them? 

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What is the Chazon Ish proof to his point?

Learn ח’ מנחת שלמה who has a different approach than the Chazon Ish

How does the ח’ מנחת שלמה address the proof of the Chazon Ish?

Continue learning the גמרא דף מה: “ומי אמר ר’ יוחנן” (middle of the Amud) until “כי אתא רב יצחק בר’ יוסף” 

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