Category: Eruvin

Review the גמרא דף כד: “הילכך (four lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף כה. “קרפף (second line of the Amud)

Questions:

The Gemara states that it is permissible to carry inside the רחבה and the מבוי. Is it permissible to carry inside the שביל?

See רש”י דף כה. “דלית who says it is prohibited 

See תוס’ דף כד: “טלטולי who says it is permitted 

The רשב”א דף כד: אלא אמר רבא explains the reason Tosfos is not concerned with the gezeira of שמא יאמרו is since the Lechi is placed at the opening of the מבוי and not of the שביל.  

Why is Rashi still concerned with the gezeira of שמא יאמרו?

Learn גאון יעקב דף כד: “אלא אמר רבא

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According to Tosfos that it is permitted to carry inside the שביל, is it permitted to carry from the שביל to the מבוי?

Learn ריטב”א דף כד: “טלטולי במתא

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How do we conclude in regards to the concern of “שמא יאמרו? 

See שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ שס”ה סע’ ג , משנה ברורה ס”ק כד, ביאור הלכה “כאלו 

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Learn גמרא דף כה. “קרפף (second line of the Amud) until “טח בו טיט” (sixteen lines from top of the Amud)

Learn the גמרא דף כד: “הילכך (four lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף כה. “קרפף (second line of the Amud)

Questions:

What is the reason to prohibit carrying from the מבוי to the רחבה?

Learn תוס’ דף כה. “ומאן

Learn ריטב”א דף כד: “טלטולי במתא

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37287&st=&pgnum=40

The Gemara states that it is permissible to carry inside the רחבה and the מבוי. Is it permissible to carry inside the שביל?

See רש”י דף כה. “דלית

Learn תוס’ דף כד: “טלטולי

Why is Tosfos not concerned with the reason Rashi gives to prohibit carrying inside the שביל?

Learn רשב”א דף כד: אלא אמר רבא

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How do we conclude in regards to the concern of “שמא יאמרו? 

See שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ שס”ה סע’ ג , משנה ברורה ס”ק כד, ביאור הלכה “כאלו

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Conclusion of the Sugya – “גמרא דף כד: “ההיא רחבה (seven lines from top of the Amud) until “הילכך” (four lines from bottom of the Amud) 

Make a chart with the four different solutions to permit one to carry in the רחבה, שביל & מבוי

Specify how Rashi explains them and how Tosfos explains them 

Write the reasons why the Gemara requests the first three solutions. 

List the four questions תוס’ “ליעבד צורת הפתח  asks on Rashi.

Draw a diagram of the case of the Gemara illustrating the areas Rashi and Tosfos disagree.

How does Tosfos explanation of the Gemara avoid all the questions he asked on Rashi?

How can we answer the questions to defend the position of Rashi?

Continue learning the גמרא דף כד: “הילכך (four lines from bottom of the Amud)  until דף כה. “קרפף (second line of the Amud)

Conclusion of the Sugya – “גמרא דף כד: “ההיא רחבה (seven lines from top of the Amud) until “הילכך” (four lines from bottom of the Amud) 

Learn תוס’ “ליעבד צורת הפתח

Focus on the new explanation Tosfos gives on the Gemara and continue learning the rest of the Tosfos on the sugyam

Tosfos presents a new explanation in the case of placing a mechitza אגודא דנהרא – at the banks of the river and placing a צורת הפתח by the פומא – entrance of the שביל של כרמים.

Make a chart with the four different solutions and how Rashi explains them and how Tosfos explains them 

List the reason why Tosfos differs from Rashi.

Learn the Ritva on the Sugya to answer many of the questions on Rashi 

Very quickly review “גמרא דף כד: “ההיא רחבה (seven lines from top of the Amud) until “הילכך” (four lines from bottom of the Amud) 

The Gemara presents multiple solutions 

Placing a mechitza אגודא דנהרא – at the banks of the river

Placing a צורת הפתח by the פומא –  entrance of the שביל של כרמים

Placing a Lechi at the פתח – entrance of the שביל של כרמים

Placing a Lechi at the פתח – entrance of the מבוי דמתא 

How does each of these solutions permit one to carry inside each of the three areas? 

Why is it not a good solution?

Learn all the Tosfos on the Gemara. 

Clarify the questions Tosfos has on Rashi explanation of the various solutions. 

Learn the Ritva on the Sugya to answer many of the questions on Rashi 

Tosfos presents a new explanation in the case of placing a mechitza אגודא דנהרא – at the banks of the river and placing a צורת הפתח by the פומא – entrance of the שביל של כרמים.

How does this differ from Rashi?

Review “גמרא דף כד: “ההיא רחבה (seven lines from top of the Amud) until “הילכך” (four lines from bottom of the Amud) 

Questions:

Why is it prohibited to carry inside the רחבה? מבוי דמתא? שביל של כרמים? 

The Gemara attempts to present multiple solutions 

Placing a mechitza אגודא דנהרא – at the banks of the river

Placing a צורת הפתח by the פומא –  entrance of the שביל של כרמים

Placing a Lechi at the פתח – entrance of the שביל של כרמים

Placing a Lechi at the פתח – entrance of the מבוי דמתא 

How does each of these solutions permit one to carry inside each of the three areas? 

Why is it not a good solution?

Learn all the Tosfos on the Gemara. 

Clarify the questions Tosfos has on Rashi explanation of the various solutions. 

Tosfos presents a new explanation in the case of placing a mechitza אגודא דנהרא – at the banks of the river and placing a צורת הפתח by the פומא – entrance of the שביל של כרמים.

How do they differ from Rashi?

Learn “גמרא דף כד: “ההיא רחבה (seven lines from top of the Amud) until “הילכך” (four lines from bottom of the Amud) 

Draw a diagram of the scenario of the Gemara – there are three areas רחבה, מבוי דמתא & שביל של כרמים  

Sugya: מים מבטל שם דירה 

Questions:

According to the conclusion of the Gemara does water which is לא חזי לתשמישתא need to be ten teaching deep in order to be מבטל שם דירה?

Learn ריטב”א דף כד: “וכי (see attachment)

And רא”ש ס’ ד

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Note the machlokes between the Ritva and the Rosh 

What’s the central point of their argument?

Does a man made reservoir of water larger than בית סאתים also מבטל שם דירה?

Learn תוס’ דף כד: “לא 

Question:

What is the difference between the two explanations of Tosfos?

Learn תוס’ רא”ש (see attachment) 

How do we conclude l’halacha?

Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ שנ”ח סע’ י”א with משנה ברורה and “ביאור הלכה “והוא

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&st=&pgnum=43

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&st=&pgnum=44

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&st=&pgnum=45

Review “גמרא דף כד. “קרפף יותר מבית סאתים 

(five lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף כד: “ההיא רחבה (seven lines from top of the Amud) 

Questions: 

What does it mean “עומקן” ?

See רש”י דף כד: “שאין בעומקן

Learn ריטב”א  who brings a different explanation in the name of יש אומרים 

According to the conclusion of the Gemara does water which is לא חזי לתשמישתא need to be ten teaching deep in order to be מבטל שם דירה?

Learn ריטב”א דף כד: “וכי

And רא”ש ס’ ד 

Note the machlokes between the Ritva and the Rosh 

What’s the central point of their argument?

Learn תוס’ דף כד: “לא 

Learn “גמרא דף כד. “קרפף יותר מבית סאתים 

(five lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף כד: “ההיא רחבה (seven lines from top of the Amud) 

Questions: 

What is the definition of water that is חזי לתשמיש? 

See רש”י דף כד: “דחזי 

Learn ריטב”א דף כד: “לא

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Learn רשב”א עבודת הקודש שער שלישי אות פב

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What does it mean “עומקן” ?

See רש”י דף כד: “שאין בעומקן

Learn ריטב”א  who brings a different explanation in the name of יש אומרים

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According to the conclusion of the Gemara does water which is לא חזי לתשמישתא need to be ten teaching deep in order to be מבטל שם דירה?

Learn תוס’ דף כד: “לא 

Quickly review גמרא דף כד. “אמר רב כהנא (thirteen lines from bottom of the Amud) until “קרפף יותר מבית סאתים “

Question:

Is the intent to build a house inside a קרפף sufficient to classify the fence placed around a קרפף as הוקף לדירה?

Review רמב”ם הלכות שבת פרק ט”ז הלכה ה

And מגיד משנה on the side of the Rambam 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=67

Learn שולחן ארוך או”ח ס’ שנ”ט with משנה ברורה and ביאור הלכה “רחבה for the conclusion of the classifications of various places and how to create an area to be considered הוקף לדירה

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Conclusion of Sugya: זרעים מבטלים דירה

Questions:

Are the following land uses מבטל שם דירה? 

Botanical Garden

Is it classified as a גינה or because it is designed to walk around it is similar to planting trees?

See שו”ת מנחת יצחק חלק ה ס’ ק”ח

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14682&st=&pgnum=226

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14682&st=&pgnum=227

Zoo

See שו”ת נודע ביהודה או”ח תנינא ס’ מז

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And קובץ תשובות ח”א ס’ מה

Cemetery

See קובץ תשובות ח”א ס’ מה

Learn גמרא דף כד. “אמר רב כהנא (thirteen lines from bottom of the Amud) until “קרפף יותר מבית סאתים “

Question:

Is the intent to build a house inside a קרפף sufficient to classify the fence placed around a קרפף as הוקף לדירה?

Learn ה’ אשרי  on the side of the רא”ש פרק ב ס’ ב

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14312&st=&pgnum=219

See ה’ מהרש”ל on the ה’ אשרי 

Learn רמב”ם הלכות שבת פרק ט “ז הלכה ה

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And מגיד משנה on the side of the Rambam 

Learn שולחן ארוך או”ח ס’ שנ”ט with משנה ברורה  and ביאור הלכה “רחבה

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We will discuss some of the below Bezras Hashem tomorrow

Sugya: זרעים מבטלים דירה

Questions:

Are the following land uses מבטל שם דירה? 

Botanical Garden- Is it classified as a גינה or because it is designed to walk around it is similar to planting trees?

See שו”ת מנחת יצחק חלק ה ס’ ק”ח

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14682&st=&pgnum=226

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14682&st=&pgnum=227

Zoo

See שו”ת נודע ביהודה או”ח תנינא ס’ מז

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1447&pgnum=28

And קובץ תשובות ח”א ס’ מה

Cemetery

See קובץ תשובות ח”א ס’ מה

Very quickly review גמרא דף כד. “אמר רב נחמן  (seventeen lines from top of the Amud) until “אמר רב כהנא” (thirteen lines from bottom of the Amud)

Question:

In order for the the replacement fencing material to be considered a new fence and now create this area to be considered הוקף לדירה  does the old fence have to be removed or is it sufficient to just place new fencing material in front of the old fence?

Learn שולחן ארוך או”ח ס’ שנ”ח סע’ ו with משנה ברורה and ביאור הלכה “באורך

Learn גמרא דף כד. “אמר רב כהנא (thirteen lines from bottom of the Amud) until “קרפף יותר מבית סאתים “

Sugya: זרעים מבטלים דירה

Questions:

Are the following land uses מבטל שם דירה? 

Botanical Garden– Is it classified as a גינה or because it is designed to walk around it is similar to planting trees?

See שו”ת מנחת יצחק חלק ה ס’ ק”ח

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14682&st=&pgnum=226

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14682&st=&pgnum=227

Zoo

See שו”ת נודע ביהודה או”ח תנינא ס’ מז

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1447&pgnum=28

And קובץ תשובות ח”א ס’ מה

Cemetery

See קובץ תשובות ח”א ס’ מה

Learn גמרא דף כד. “אמר רב נחמן  (seventeen lines from top of the Amud) until “אמר רב כהנא” (thirteen lines from bottom of the Amud)

Sugya: זרעים מבטלים דירה

Questions:

Are the following land uses מבטל שם דירה? 

Botanical garden– Is it classified as a גינה or because it is designed to walk around it is similar to planting trees?

See שו”ת מנחת יצחק חלק ה ס’ ק”ח

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14682&st=&pgnum=226

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14682&st=&pgnum=227

Zoo

See שו”ת נודע ביהודה או”ח תנינא ס’ מז

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1447&pgnum=28

Sugya: זרעים מבטלים דירה

Question:

In a city eruv does a garden or farm (planting area larger than two סאה) which does not have a fence around it disqualify the Eruv?

How do we rule l’halacha?

The  שולחן ערוך או”ח ס’ שנ”ח סע’ ט & י (just first half of סע’ י) clearly rules that planting a garden in a חצר negates the דירה just like in a קרפף and if it’s larger then בית סאתים it is prohibited to carry inside. 

Learn שער הציון אות סז who lists the opinions who rule accordingly 

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Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ שנ”ח סע’ ט “אבל for a reason why farms & gardens inside a city Eruv do not disqualify the Eruv. 

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Learn גמרא דף כד. “נטע רובו (two dots – nine lines from top of the Amud) until “אמר רב נחמן

Questions:

Are the following land uses מבטל שם דירה? 

Botanical garden– Is it classified as a גינה or because it is designed to walk around it is similar to planting trees?

See שו”ת מנחת יצחק חלק ח ס’ ק”ח 

Zoo

See שו”ת נודע ביהודה או”ח תנינא ס’ מז

And קובץ תשובות ח”א ס’ מה

Cemetery

See קובץ תשובות ח”א ס’ מה

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&st=&pgnum=42

Sugya: זרעים מבטלים דירה

Learn גמרא דף כד. “נטע רובו (two dots – nine lines from top of the Amud) until “אמר רב נחמן

Question:

In a city wide eruv does a garden or farm (planting area larger than two סאה) which does not have a fence around it disqualify the Eruv?

Does זרעים מבטלים דירה even for a דיר, סוהר חצר & מוקצה  

Quickly review תוס’ ישנים דף כג: “נזרע 

Learn הגות אשרי on side of the רא”ש פרק ב ס’ ב

And the רא”ש end of ס’ ב starting from the words “ואפילו בחצר שלפני הבית 

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How do we rule l’halacha?

Learn  שולחן ערוך או”ח ס’ שנ”ח סע’ ט & י (just first half of סע’ י) with the Mishna Berura

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Learn שער הציון אות סז

Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ שנ”ח סע’ ט “אבל for another reason to be lenient and allow farms & gardens inside a city Eruv

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&st=&pgnum=42

Sugya: זרעים מבטלים דירה

Question:

Does זרעים מבטלים דירה even for a דיר, סוהר חצר & מוקצה  

Learn תוס’ ישנים דף כג: “נזרע (on the daf)

Learn רא”ש פרק ב ס’ ב

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Learn שולחן ערוך או”ח ס’ שנ”ח סע’ י with the Mishna Berura

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See שער הציון אות סז

Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ שנ”ח סע’ ט “אבל for another reason to be lenient and allow gardens inside a city Eruv

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60389&st=&pgnum=42

Very quickly review גמרא דף כג: “קרפף” (ten lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף כד. “נטע רובו (two dots)
Clarify the shift between the first version of רב הונא בריה דרב יהושע and the second version.

Learn תוס’ דף כד. “לא

Question:
Why does זרעים destroy the classification of דירה?
See ביאור הלכה ס’ שנ”ח סע’ ט “הזרעים

Review גמרא דף כג: “קרפף” (ten lines from bottom of the Amud) until the bottom of the Amud until גמרא דף כד. “נטע רובו (two dots)

Clarify the shift between the first version of רב הונא בריה דרב יהושע and the second version. 

Learn תוס’ דף כד. “לא

Question:

Why does זרעים destroy the classification of דירה?

See ביאור הלכה ס’ שנ”ח סע’ ט “הזרעים