Category: Morning Chabura

Learn the גמרא דף מה. “בעי מיניה until “ולית ליה

Learn תוס’ “היכא

Learn תוס’ “אלא

Very quickly review the גמרא דף מה. “והא בעו מיניה (seven lines from the top of the Amud) until בעי מיניה 

Rav says for a שעת הדחק one can rely on Rebbe Shimon opinion that we don’t say מיגו דאתקצאי   

What is the level of שעת הדחק that would qualify to permit this?

Rashi says – סכנה 

What type of danger?

The ריטב”א דף מה. “כדאי – a monetary danger or physical injury. 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14349&st=&pgnum=206

The ח’ רע”א says it has to have some remote chance of fatality. 

Learn the מגן אברהם ס’ רע”ט ס”ק א  who brings two different opinions in regards to the level of danger. 

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See פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס”ק א 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&st=&pgnum=175

And משנה ברורה ס”ק א 

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Learn רב ניסן גאון on the side of the Gemara for an entirely new explanation of the case of שעת הדחק 

Major Question:

Even if we rely on Rebbe Shimon that only tells us that we don’t say מיגו דאתקצאי and the menorah does not remain in state of Muktza as if it was lit. 

But it should still be prohibited to move the menorah as it is at least a כלי שמלאכתו לאיסור?  

Continue learning the גמרא דף מה. “בעי מיניה until “ולית ליה

Learn תוס’ “היכא

Learn תוס’ “אלא

Quickly review the גמרא דף מה. “הכי נמי מסתברא (top of the Amud) until בעי מיניה 

Learn תוס’ הכי נמי

Questions:

If it’s a real danger to keep the menorah outside why do we need to rely on Rebbe Shimon opinion? It should be permitted even according to Rebbe Yehuda?

Learn ריטב”א דף מה. “כדאי

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14349&st=&pgnum=206

Learn ח’ רע”א 

Learn תוס’ “מקמי 

Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ רע”ט סע’ א

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And the מגן אברהם ס”ק א 

See פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס”ק א 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&st=&pgnum=175

And משנה ברורה ס”ק א 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=123

Major Question:

Even if we rely on Rebbe Shimon that only tells us that we don’t say מיגו דאתקצאי  and the menorah does not remain in state of Muktza as if it was lit. 

But it should still be prohibited to move the menorah as it is at least a כלי שמלאכתו לאיסור?  

Learn the גמרא דף מה. “הכי נמי מסתברא (top of the Amud) until בעי מיניה 

Learn תוס’ הכי נמי

Questions:

If it’s a real danger to keep the menorah outside why do we need to rely on Rebbe Shimon opinion? It should be permitted even according to Rebbe Yehuda?

Learn תוס’ “מקמי 

Major Question:

Even if we rely on Rebbe Shimon that only tells us that we don’t say מיגו דאתקצאי – the menorah does not remain in state of Muktza as if it was lit. 

But it should still be prohibited to move the menorah as it is at least a כלי שמלאכתו לאיסור?  

Quickly review the רמ”א ס’ ש”י סע’ ז with the משנה ברורה ס”ק כט-לא 

And שער הציון אות כח

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See פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס”ק ז 

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Write the answers to the following scenarios 

• If one discovers money on Shabbos inside the pocket of his pants does he need to shake the money out before continuing to walk?
• What if the money was left intentionally?
• What is the Halacha of money was left inside a shirt pocket?
• May one move a desk in which the drawer contains Muktzah? 
• Does it matter in the value of the Muktzah item in the drawer?
• In a case where there is a Muktzah item in the drawer and a non Muktza item is on the top of the desk. May one move the desk?

Learn the גמרא דף מה. “הכי נמי מסתברא (top of the Amud) until בעי מיניה 

Learn תוס’ הכי נמי

Learn תוס’ “מקמי 

The Magen Avraham quotes the Rambam who states in the case money was left on the wheel of a wagon and the wheel is permanently affixed to the wagon although the wagon does not become a Bosis to the money one must shake off the money if it’s possible before moving the wagon.

Quickly review תוס’ דף מד: “הא

Learn ה’ רע”א ס’ ש”י סע’ ז “אין צריך לנער who brings a proof from Tosfos that he argues on the Rambam and does not require the money to be shaken off.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=130

Question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger:

Why is this different than any case of one who forgot Muktza on top of an item although the item does not become a Bosis if possible one must shake off the Muktza before the item as stated in the משנה דף קמב עמ’ ב? 

See חזון איש או”ח ס’ מז ס”ק ה

Bottom Line Halacha:

Questions:

• Does one need to shake out the money from the pants pocket before moving it?
• Does it matter if the money was left inside by accident or intentionally?
• The Magen Avraham differentiates between different types of pockets. What is the difference?
• May one move a desk in which the drawer contains Muktzah? 
• Does it matter in the value of the Muktzah item in the drawer?
• In a case where there is a Muktzah item in the drawer but a non Muktza item on the top of the desk. May one move the desk

Review the רמ”א ס’ ש”י סע’ ז and learn משנה ברורה ס”ק כט-לא 

Learn פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס”ק ז 

And שער הציון אות כח

Learn תוס’ דף מד: “הא until the parenthesis 

Bottom line Halacha:

We learnt the  רמ”א ס’ ש”י סע’ ז who rules like Tosfos & the Rashba of Muktza is placed on ancillary part of an item the entire item does not become a bosis.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=130

If possible does one need to shake off the Muktzah item before moving  the item?

Review the מגן אברהם ס”ק ז from אבל הרמב”ם” 

The Magen Avraham differentiates between different types of pockets. 

What is the difference?

Learn משנה ברורה on the רמ”א ס’ ש”י סע’ ז (see משנה ברורה ס”ק כט-לא ) 

Questions:

• Does one need to shake out the money from the pants pocket before moving it?
• Does it matter if the money was left inside by accident or intentionally?
• Does it matter in the value of the Muktzah item in the drawer?

May one move a desk in which the drawer contains Muktzah? 

In a case where there is a Muktzah item in the drawer but a non Muktza item on the top of the desk. May one move the desk?

See פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס”ק ז 

And שער הציון אות כח

Review גמרא דף מד: “אמר עולא until “ורב (last line of the Amud) 

Focus on the element of Muktza 

The Gemara says if money is placed on a מוכני – wheel is detachable from the wagon one may not move the wagon on Shabbos.

However if the מוכני – wheel is attached to the wagon than one may move the wagon even though the money is on the wheel.

Question:

Why is it permitted to move the money on Shabbos?

Learn תוס’ “אין 

Learn תוס’ רא”ש “ואין

How is the explanation of the Tosfos Rosh different from Tosfos?

Learn רשב”א”ואין 

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How is the explanation of the Rashba different from Tosfos and Tosfos Rosh?

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”י סע’ ז – starting from וכן בכיס התפור בבגד”  

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Learn the מגן אברהם ס”ק ז to see how this Halacha is learnt from מוכני 

Very quickly review גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Learn גמרא דף מד: “אמר עולא until “ורב (last line of the Amud) 

Focus on the element of Muktza 

The Gemara says if money is placed on a מוכני – wheel is detachable from the wagon one may not move the wagon on Shabbos.

However if the מוכני – wheel is attached to the wagon than one may move the wagon even though the money is on the wheel.

Question:

Why is it permitted to move the money on Shabbos?

Learn תוס’ “אין 

Learn תוס’ רא”ש “ואין

Learn רשב”א”ואין 

If you have not yet written a summary please write one this morning 

1) תוס’ דף מד. “מטה, 

2)  תוס’ דף מד: “הא 

3) רא”ש פרק ג ס’ כ starting from הוא שאמר רב מטה (towards the end) with the ה’ אשרי on the side of the רא”ש

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How do we rule in regards to a מטה שיחדה למעות?

Review שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”י סע’ ז

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Clarify the machlokes between the Mechaber and the Rema regarding a מטה שיחדה למעות/ כיס של מעות

Review the מגן אברהם ס”ק ה who asks two questions on the רמ”א 

See ה’ רע”א on the שולחן ערוך for an answer 

Learn משנה ברורה

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Learn  שער הציון ס’ רע”ט אות טז

Learn גמרא דף מד: “אמר עולא until “ורב (last line of the Amud) 

Write a summary based on תוס’ דף מד. “מטה, the גמרא דף לו with Rashi & תוס’ דף לו. “אמר ר’ יהודה, and תוס’ דף מד: “הא –  of the different explanations we learnt last week 

• Why a מטה שיחדה למעות is considered Muktzah?
• What level of Muktza it is?
• Is it Muktzah just according to ר”י or even according to ר”ש?

Learn רא”ש פרק ג ס’ כ starting from הוא שאמר רב מטה (towards the end)

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How do we rule in regards to a מטה שיחדה למעות?

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”י סע’ ז

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=130

Learn the מגן אברהם ס”ק ה who asks two questions on the רמ”א 

See ה’ רע”א on the שולחן ערוך for an answer 

Learn משנה ברורה

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Learn גמרא דף מד: “אמר עולא until “ורב (last line of the Amud) 

Very quickly review גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Very quickly review גמרא דף לו explanations of the three Braissos in regards to whether it is permitted to move a shofar or a trumpet on Shabbos

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=36&format=pdf

See תוס’ דף לו. “אמר ר’ יהודה 

What is the difference between Rashi and Tosfos explanation of the Gemara? 

Learn תוס’ דף מד: “הא – last three lines in the parentheses 

Question:

What is the difference between this Tosfos and תוס’ דף מד. “מטה?

Based on the above explain:

Why is a מטה שיחדה למעות considered Muktzah even when there is no money on top of the bed? 

What level of Muktza is it?

Is it Muktzah just according to the opinion of ר”י or even according to ר”ש?

Learn רא”ש פרק ג ס’ כ starting from הוא שאמר רב מטה (towards the end)

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How do we rule in regards to a מטה שיחדה למעות?

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”י סע’ ז

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Learn the מגן אברהם ס”ק ה who asks two questions on the מחבר

See ה’ רע”א on the שולחן ערוך for an answer 

Learn משנה ברורה

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Review גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Review תוס’ דף מד. “מטה

Review גמרא דף לה: “והתניא שופר מטלטל (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף לו. “ומאי שופר

And תוס’ דף לו. “אמר ר’ יהודה 

What is the difference between Rashi and Tosfos explanation of the Gemara? 

Learn תוס’ דף מד: “הא  – last three lines in the parenthesis 

Question:

What is the difference between this Tosfos and תוס’ דף מד. “מטה?

Based on the above explain:

• Why is a מטה שיחדה למעות considered Muktzah even when there is no money on top of the bed? 
• What level of Muktza is it?
• Is it Muktzah just according to the opinion of ר”י or even according to ר”ש?

Learn רא”ש פרק ג ס’ כ starting from הוא שאמר רב מטה (towards the end)

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How do we rule in regards to a מטה שיחדה למעות?

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”י סע’ ז

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=232

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Learn גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Questions:

Why is a מטה שיחדה למעות considered Muktzah even without when there is no money on top of the bed? 

What level of Muktza is it?

Is it Muktzah just according to the opinion of ר”י or even according to ר”ש?

Learn תוס’ דף מד. “מטה

Learn גמרא דף לה: “והתניא שופר מטלטל (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף לו. “ומאי שופר

Learn רש'”י well 

Learn תוס’ דף לו. “אמר ר’ יהודה 

What is the difference between Rashi and Tosfos explanation of the Gemara? 

Conclusion Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

Last week we discussed at length 

1. What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?

The אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט (first two paragraphs) explains the source is “והכינו” an item has to be prepared for use for Shabbos. If it was not prepared before Shabbos than it is Muktzah 

2. Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?

The אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה”) gave two explanations

A) Either ר”ש does not agree to the requirement that an item needs to be prepared for Shabbos 

B) He agrees to והכינו however in a case where the person is anticipating using it on Shabbos although it might be off limits at the beginning of Shabbos it is considered prepared. 

3. Why does ר”ש agree that a large container of oil is muktza even after the flame goes out? 

The אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד – left column) explained as the lantern and oil were not prepared for use for Shabbos/

4. There is a machlokes about what the position of ר”ש is in regards to an animal that died on Shabbos whether it is Muktzah.

What is the reasoning behind this machlokes?

This is a matter of dispute between the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish. 

Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד

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Clarify each of their explanations  

Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו “עד כאן לא שרי for his explanation of animal that was slaughtered on Shabbos to feed a sick person

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=215

Quickly review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Based on what we learned from the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish how can we explain the logic that only when there is a combination of מוקצה מחמת איסור and מוקצה מחמת מיאוס will we say מיגו דאתקצאי ?

Learn גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Why is a מטה שיחדה למעות considered Muktzah? 

What level of Muktza is it?

Learn תוס’ דף מד. “מטה

Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

There is a major machlokes between ר”י & ר”ש if a lantern that was lit at the begining of Shabbos remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame is extinguished. 

This machlokes is contingent on the concept of מיגו דאתקצאי – something which is Muktza during Bein Hashmoshas remains Muktza for the entire Shabbos.

Major Question:

What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?

Review the אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – first two paragraphs.

Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה” for an incredible explanation)

The Gemara brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the flame goes out.

What is the explanation for their argument?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the left column “ומה נעים” for an incredible explanation. 

Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=215

Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד for a different explanation than the אפיקי ים

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Quickly review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Based on what we learnt from the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish how can we explain the logic that only when there is a combination of מוקצה מחמת איסור and מוקצה מחמת מיאוס will we say מיגו דאתקצאי 

Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

There is a major machlokes between ר”י & ר”ש if a lantern that was lit at the begining of Shabbos remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame is extinguished. 

This machlokes is contingent on the concept of מיגו דאתקצאי – something which is Muktza during Bein Hashmoshas remains Muktza for the entire Shabbos.

Major Question:

What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?

Review the אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – first two paragraphs.

Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה” for an incredible explanation)

The Gemara brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the flame goes out.

What is the explanation for their argument?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the left column “ומה נעים” for an incredible explanation. 

Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=215

Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד for a different explanation than the אפיקי ים

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Quickly review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Based on what we learnt from the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish how can we explain the logic that only when there is a combination of מוקצה מחמת איסור and מוקצה מחמת מיאוס will we say מיגו דאתקצאי 

Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

Quickly review the גמרא דף מד. “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines) until the two dots (two lines from bottom of the Amud)

Review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Tosfos says that although neither מוקצה מחמת איסור or מוקצה מחמת מיאוס is enough of a logic to make an item Muktzah when they are combined it will render the item Muktzah.

What is the reasoning for this?

Major Question:

What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי something which is Muktza during Bein Hashmoshas remains Muktza for the entire Shabbos?

Why does ר”ש not hold of   – מיגו דאתקצאי  – it does not remain Muktza for the entire Shabbos?

The Gemara earlier brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the fame goes out.

What is the explanation for their argument?

Learn  אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט (attached)

See רשב”א חולין דף טו.

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See חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד

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Learn the גמרא דף מד.  “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines) until the two dots (two lines from bottom of the Amud)

Learn תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Tosfos says that although neither מוקצה מחמת איסור or מוקצה מחמת מיאוס is enough of a logic to make an item Muktzah when they are combined it will render the item Muktzah.

What is the reasoning for this?

Review the גמרא דף מד. “אבל כוס קערה ועששית until “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines)

Questions:

Why does ר”ש agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Learn ריטב”א 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14349&st=&pgnum=198

Does רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון also agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Learn ח’ ר”ן 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40873&st=&pgnum=55

What is the point of dispute between ר”ש & רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון in regards to the oil that drips out of the lantern while the flame is still burning?

Learn רשב”א

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=65

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Important point :

Does ר”ש agree to the concept of מיגו דאתקצאי ?

Bring a proof 

Very quickly review משנה דף מד and the גמרא until “אבל כוס קערה ועששית (middle of the Amud)

Questions:

Why is the נר Muktzah?

Why is a נר ישן של חרס Muktzah?

What is the point of dispute between ר”י & ר”ש in regards to מוקצה מחמת מיאוס?

What is the point of dispute between ר”ש & רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון in regards to the oil that drips out of the lantern while the flame is still burning?

Learn רשב”א 

Learn ח’ ר”ן 

Learn the גמרא דף מד. “אבל כוס קערה ועששית until “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines)

Questions: 

According to ר”מ why does a lantern that was lit when Shabbos started remain Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Why does ר”ש agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Learn ריטב”א 

Does רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון also agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Learn ח’ ר”ן