Category: Shabbos

Halachik Conclusions of הלכות חזרה: 

Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to have specific intent to return or as long as do not have specific intent not to return.  

What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech on to the counter top, may it be returned to the blech?

If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?

Review ה’ רע”א ס’ רנ”ג אות ו 

What is the reason if someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?

According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removes from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?

Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger 

Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop? 

What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?

See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Aurbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.

Halachik Conclusions of הלכות חזרה 

If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it in the ground is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?

If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and does not have intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand. Is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?

Learn ה’ רע”א ס’ רנ”ג אות ז 

Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger 

See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Aurbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach

Point to consider 

Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to have specific intent to return or as long as do not have specific intent not to return.  

What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech on to the counter top, may it be returned to the blech?

If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?

Halachik Conclusions of הלכות חזרה 

In conclusion is it required to have the conditions of עודה בידו and דעתו להחזיר  in order to return pot on to a stovetop?

In the event that a pot was removed from the stovetop and placed on the ground with intent to return, may one return the pot to the fire? 

Review שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

Review משנה ברורה ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק נ”ו, ביאור הלכה “ודעתו להחזיר and שער הציון אות נ 

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Continue learning the רמ”א ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב  

Focus on the יש אומרים שכל זה אינו אסור  – the chidush of the ר”ן from the ירושלמי 

See משנה ברורה ס”ק סג-סז

Major Question:

Why does the Mishna Berura not permit returning a pot to the fire when it was placed on the ground with intent to return as the Rema says was the accepted practice?  

Can we rely on the ruling of the ר”ן in cases of בדיעבד ?

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See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כא-כב

And קובץ הלכות פרק כו סעיף מה with footnote סג

Conclusion  גמרא דף לח: ” חזרה 

In conclusion is it required to have the conditions of עודה בידו and דעתו להחזיר  in order to return pot on to a stovetop?

In the event that a pot was removed from the stovetop and lacking the condition of either holding on hand or intent to return may one return the pot to the fire? 

Write down the opinion of the ריף,

And  ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “לא שנו,

And  רא”ש ס’ ב 

And רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י 

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Learn beginning of שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

What is the ruling of the Mechaber?

What is the ruling of the Rema?

What is the Rema adding by stating condition of עודה בידו to the Mechaber who says if placed on ground it may not be returned?

Learn משנה ברורה on begining of סעיף ב 

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Conclusion  גמרא דף לח: ” חזרה 

In conclusion is it required to have the conditions of עודה בידו and דעתו להחזיר  in order to return pot on to a stovetop?

Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “לא שנו 

Learn רא”ש ס’ ב last two lines 

Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י 

See טור ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

Learn beginning of שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

And משנה ברורה  

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Conclusion  גמרא דף לח: “פינה ממיחם למיחם until the Mishna 

What is the halachik conclusion of פינה ממיחם למיחם 

May one transfer the contents of a Crock-Pot into a second pot and return the second pot to the fire?

See טור ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

See beginning of שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

Learn מגן אברהם ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק כ

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And ה’ רע”א אות ז

Is the note of Rebbe Akiva Eiger arguing on the Magen Avraham or explaining the Magen Avraham?

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And שער הציון אות מז

The Ran says if one returns the contents back to the original pot it is possibly prohibited to return the pot to the fire as it is considered he placed the pot on the ground when placing it into the second pot. Why would this reasoning not prohibit returning the second pot itself to the fire?

See קובץ הלכות פרק כו הערה עג

According to the Mishna Berura is it permitted if the water is placed into a cup and then poured into the Crock-Pot?

See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א הערה מט

According to the Magen Avraham is it permitted to add hot water directly from a hot water urn into a crock pot? 

See תוס’ דף לח: פינה 

Conclusion  גמרא דף לח: “פינה ממיחם למיחם until the Mishna 

Practical cases

The one transfer the contents of a Crock-Pot into a second pot and return the second pot to the fire?

May one add hot water directly from a hot water urn into a crock pot? 

Is it permitted if the water is placed into a cup and then poured into the Crock-Pot?

What is the halachik conclusion of פינה ממיחם למיחם 

Learn מגן אברהם ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק כ

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And ה’ רע”א אות ז

Learn משנה ברורה ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק נה 

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And שער הציון אות מז

According to the Ran If one transfered the contents of a pot to a second pot can the second pot be returned to the stovetop?

According to Tosfos 

With the return of the second part be permitted if the second pot is hot?

onclusion  גמרא דף לח: “פינה ממיחם למיחם until the Mishna 

Summarize the two answers of תוס’ “פינה and תוס’ ישנים as to what is the uncertainty in the case of פינה ממיחם למיחם (transferring the food to a different pot) whether it is permitted to return the second pot to the stove

Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “בעי רב אשי for an additional two answers

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How are the two explanations of the Ran different than each other?

How are the two explanations of the Ran different than Tosfos? 

List the four answers to Tosfos question 

How many different explanations do we have as to why it might be prohibited to do Chazarah if transfered the contents of original pot to a new pot.

In conclusion is it required to have the conditions of עודה בידו and דעתו להחזיר  in order to return pot on to a stovetop?

Is placing the pot on a peg or on bed considered עודה בידו ?

If one transfered the contents of the original pot to a new pot can the second pot be returned to the stovetop?

Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “לא שנו 

Learn רא”ש ס’ ב last two lines

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Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י 

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Review the גמרא דף לח: “פינה ממיחם למיחם until the Mishna 

Question:

What is the uncertainty in the case of פינה ממיחם למיחם (transferring the food to a different pot) whether it is permitted to return the second pot to the stove?

See רש”י “פינה

Learn תוס’ “פינה who asks a question from Gemara in the fourth perek. 

See תוס’ ישנים answer from the רשב”א 

Major Question:

Tosfos says there is a potential concern when one transfers hot food into a second pot that one might come to stoke the coals.  How could there be a חשש שמא יחתה when we are dealing with a stove that is גרוף וקטום?

Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “בעי רב אשי for an additional two answers 

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How are the two explanations of the Ran different than each other?

How are the two explanations of the Ran different than Tosfos? 

Review the גמרא דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud) until the Mishna 

Question:

What is the uncertainty in the case of פינה ממיחם למיחם (transferring the food to a different pot) whether it is permitted to return the second pot to the stove?

See רש”י “פינה

Learn תוס’ “פינה who asks a question from Gemara in the fourth perek. 

See תוס’ ישנים answer from the רשב”א 

Major Question:

Tosfos says there is a potential concern when one transfers hot food into a second pot that one might come to stoke the coals.  How could there be a חשש שמא יחצה when we are dealing with a stove that is גרוף וקטום?

Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “בעי רב אשי for an additional two answers 

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How are the two explanations of the Ran different than each other?

How are the two explanations of the Ran different than Tosfos? 

Learn the גמרא דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud) until the Mishna 

Questions:

What is the reason why if the pot is placed on the ground it would be prohibited to return the food to the stove?

See רש”י “אבל הניח על גבי קרקע 

What is the uncertainty in the case of פינה ממיחם למיחם (transferring the food to a different pot) whether it is permitted to return the second pot to the stove?

See רש”י “פינה

Learn תוס’ “פינה 

Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “בעי רב אשי 

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Questions:

Why does Beis Shammai prohibit Chazarah even on a stove that is גרוף וקטום ?

See רש”י דף לו: “לא מחזירין

Is this the same reason Beis Hillel prohibits Chazarah when the stove is not גרוף וקטום?

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Learn the גמרא דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud) until the Mishna 

Questions:

What is the reason why if the pot is placed on the ground it would be prohibited to return the food to the stove?

See רש”י “אבל הניח על גבי קרקע 

What is the uncertainty in the case of פינה ממיחם למיחם (transferring the food to a different pot) whether it is permitted to return the second pot to the stove?

See רש”י “פינה

Learn תוס’ “פינה 

List the two different explanations (Rashi & Tosfos) of the chidush of Rav Sheshes and Rav Oshia דף לח עמוד ב that Beis Hillel permits חזרה even on Shabbos.

Learn the ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף ” ומיהו בירושלמי which brings a new explanation for the chidush of Rav Sheshes 

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Why does Beis Shammai prohibit Chazara even on a stove that is גרוף וקטום ?

See רש”י דף לו: “לא מחזירין

Is this the same reason Beis Hillel prohibits if it is not גרוף וקטום ?

According to Chanania it is permitted to leave food that is half way cooked on a stove that is not גרוף וקטום. Yet in regards to chazarah Beis Hillel only permits Chazara on a stove that is גרוף וקטום. Why?

Learn ח’ ר”ן דף לו: “אין מחזירין

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Continue learning the גמרא דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud) until the Mishna 

Very quickly review the גמרא דף לח. “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud) until דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud)

List the two different explanations (Rashi & Tosfos) of the chidush of Rav Sheshes and Rav Oshia that Beis Hillel permits חזרה even on Shabbos.

Review תוס’ דף לו: “וב”ה אומרים אף מחזירין (first half of Tosfos)

Questions:

According to Tosfos opinion that Beis Shamai prohibits Chazarah even on Friday 

Why is it prohibited to return food to the fire on Friday?

Is it prohibited to return food to the stove the entire Friday? 

Why does Beis Shammai prohibit Chazara even on a stove that is גרוף וקטום ?

See רש”י דף לו: “לא מחזירין

According to Chanania it is permitted to leave food that is half way cooked on a stove that is not גרוף וקטום. Yet in regards to chazarah Beis Hillel only permits Chazara on a stove that is גרוף וקטום. Why?

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Continue learning the גמרא דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud) until the Mishna 

Review the גמרא דף לח. “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud) until דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud)

Questions:

What is the chidush of Rav Sheshes and Rav Oshia that Beis Hillel permits חזרה even on Shabbos? 

How does Rashi address this? (Breakdown the three components of Rashi)

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How does Tosfos address this? 

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Learn תוס’ דף לח: “אפילו

Learn תוס’ דף לח: “פינה

Write a summary of the four explanations we discussed last week of the question of the Gemara עבר ושהה מהו 

Rashi 

Tosfos

Rosh – explanation #1

Rosh – explanation #2

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Learn רשב”א “הא דאיבעיא for another explanation of the Gemara. 

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Learn the גמרא דף לח. “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud) until the Mishna דף לח עמוד ב

Learn תוס’ דף לח: “אפילו

Learn תוס’ דף לח: “פינה