Category: Gemara

Review גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Review תוס’ דף מד. “מטה

Review גמרא דף לה: “והתניא שופר מטלטל (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף לו. “ומאי שופר

And תוס’ דף לו. “אמר ר’ יהודה 

What is the difference between Rashi and Tosfos explanation of the Gemara? 

Learn תוס’ דף מד: “הא  – last three lines in the parenthesis 

Question:

What is the difference between this Tosfos and תוס’ דף מד. “מטה?

Based on the above explain:

• Why is a מטה שיחדה למעות considered Muktzah even when there is no money on top of the bed? 
• What level of Muktza is it?
• Is it Muktzah just according to the opinion of ר”י or even according to ר”ש?

Learn רא”ש פרק ג ס’ כ starting from הוא שאמר רב מטה (towards the end)

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How do we rule in regards to a מטה שיחדה למעות?

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”י סע’ ז

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Learn גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Questions:

Why is a מטה שיחדה למעות considered Muktzah even without when there is no money on top of the bed? 

What level of Muktza is it?

Is it Muktzah just according to the opinion of ר”י or even according to ר”ש?

Learn תוס’ דף מד. “מטה

Learn גמרא דף לה: “והתניא שופר מטלטל (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף לו. “ומאי שופר

Learn רש'”י well 

Learn תוס’ דף לו. “אמר ר’ יהודה 

What is the difference between Rashi and Tosfos explanation of the Gemara? 

Conclusion Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

Last week we discussed at length 

1. What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?

The אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט (first two paragraphs) explains the source is “והכינו” an item has to be prepared for use for Shabbos. If it was not prepared before Shabbos than it is Muktzah 

2. Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?

The אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה”) gave two explanations

A) Either ר”ש does not agree to the requirement that an item needs to be prepared for Shabbos 

B) He agrees to והכינו however in a case where the person is anticipating using it on Shabbos although it might be off limits at the beginning of Shabbos it is considered prepared. 

3. Why does ר”ש agree that a large container of oil is muktza even after the flame goes out? 

The אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד – left column) explained as the lantern and oil were not prepared for use for Shabbos/

4. There is a machlokes about what the position of ר”ש is in regards to an animal that died on Shabbos whether it is Muktzah.

What is the reasoning behind this machlokes?

This is a matter of dispute between the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish. 

Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד

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Clarify each of their explanations  

Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו “עד כאן לא שרי for his explanation of animal that was slaughtered on Shabbos to feed a sick person

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Quickly review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Based on what we learned from the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish how can we explain the logic that only when there is a combination of מוקצה מחמת איסור and מוקצה מחמת מיאוס will we say מיגו דאתקצאי ?

Learn גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Why is a מטה שיחדה למעות considered Muktzah? 

What level of Muktza is it?

Learn תוס’ דף מד. “מטה

Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

There is a major machlokes between ר”י & ר”ש if a lantern that was lit at the begining of Shabbos remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame is extinguished. 

This machlokes is contingent on the concept of מיגו דאתקצאי – something which is Muktza during Bein Hashmoshas remains Muktza for the entire Shabbos.

Major Question:

What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?

Review the אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – first two paragraphs.

Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה” for an incredible explanation)

The Gemara brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the flame goes out.

What is the explanation for their argument?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the left column “ומה נעים” for an incredible explanation. 

Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו.

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Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד for a different explanation than the אפיקי ים

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Quickly review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Based on what we learnt from the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish how can we explain the logic that only when there is a combination of מוקצה מחמת איסור and מוקצה מחמת מיאוס will we say מיגו דאתקצאי 

Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

There is a major machlokes between ר”י & ר”ש if a lantern that was lit at the begining of Shabbos remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame is extinguished. 

This machlokes is contingent on the concept of מיגו דאתקצאי – something which is Muktza during Bein Hashmoshas remains Muktza for the entire Shabbos.

Major Question:

What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?

Review the אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – first two paragraphs.

Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה” for an incredible explanation)

The Gemara brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the flame goes out.

What is the explanation for their argument?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the left column “ומה נעים” for an incredible explanation. 

Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=215

Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד for a different explanation than the אפיקי ים

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Quickly review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Based on what we learnt from the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish how can we explain the logic that only when there is a combination of מוקצה מחמת איסור and מוקצה מחמת מיאוס will we say מיגו דאתקצאי 

Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

Quickly review the גמרא דף מד. “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines) until the two dots (two lines from bottom of the Amud)

Review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Tosfos says that although neither מוקצה מחמת איסור or מוקצה מחמת מיאוס is enough of a logic to make an item Muktzah when they are combined it will render the item Muktzah.

What is the reasoning for this?

Major Question:

What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי something which is Muktza during Bein Hashmoshas remains Muktza for the entire Shabbos?

Why does ר”ש not hold of   – מיגו דאתקצאי  – it does not remain Muktza for the entire Shabbos?

The Gemara earlier brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the fame goes out.

What is the explanation for their argument?

Learn  אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט (attached)

See רשב”א חולין דף טו.

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See חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד

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Learn the גמרא דף מד.  “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines) until the two dots (two lines from bottom of the Amud)

Learn תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Tosfos says that although neither מוקצה מחמת איסור or מוקצה מחמת מיאוס is enough of a logic to make an item Muktzah when they are combined it will render the item Muktzah.

What is the reasoning for this?