Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Morning Kollel גמרא ברכות – פרק ששי – כיצד מברכין – דף לו. – דף לו: – ברכה על קפריסין (09/10/26)
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Major Question:
What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?
We learnt the אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט (first two paragraphs) the source is “והכינו” an item has to be prepared for use for Shabbos. If it was not prepared before Shabbos than it is Muktzah
(See Monday email for the attachment of the copy of the אפיקי ים)
Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?
We learnt the אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה” for an incredible explanation) who gives two options
1. Either ר”ש does not agree to the requirement that an item needs to be prepared for Shabbos
2. He agrees to והכינו however in a case where the person is anticipating using it on Shabbos although it might be off limits at the beginning of Shabbos it is considered prepared.
The Gemara brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the flame goes out.
What is the explanation for their argument?
Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the left column “ומה נעים” for an incredible explanation.
Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו.https://hebrewbooks.org/
Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד for a different explanation than the אפיקי ים
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Topic: בגדי עניים לעשירים
We learnt the ר”ן “ומהא שמעינן who says that the owner of an item determines the status if it is Muktzah based on if it of used to him.
Quickly review תוס’ דף מו: “מי יימר דמיזדקק לה בעל
Does Tosfos agree with the Ran?
Learn תוס’ דף קכז: “כיון who discusses if Terumah is muktzah to a non kohen
Question:
How does the Ran explain why teruma is not considered Muktzah to a Yisrael who possesses it?
See פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס’ ש”ח ס”ק עט
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn רמ”א ס’ ש”ח סע’ ז
Topic: גרף של רעי
The Gemara proposed a reason why it would be permitted to move the pan with Ash inside as it would be considered גרף של רעי.
However the Gemara rejected this stating this would not qualify.
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”ח סע’ לד – לה to see what qualifies as גרף של רעי and how and when it is permitted to be move
Conclusion of Sugya בסיס לדבר האסור ומותר:
The מ”א ס’ רע”ז ס”ק ח says that if one places challah on the table then the table does not become a Bosis to the candlesticks.
https://hebrewbooks.org/
If one placed a challah on top of candlesticks would that permit him to love the candlesticks on Shabbos as it is a בסיס לדבר האסור ומותר ?
See שולחן ערוך ס’ רע”ט סע’ ג and משנה ברורה ס”ק י and שער הציון אות יא
Questions:
Why is the challah considered more חשוב than the candlesticks?
Learn מ”א רע”ט ס”ק ה ומחצית השקל “כלומר
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ רע”ז ס”ק יח and the שער הציון י”ח
https://hebrewbooks.org/
How do we conclude in regards to placing challah on a table with candlesticks as to why it helps to make the table a בסיס לדבר האסור ומותר
Learn ערוך השולחן ס’ רע”ט סע’ יא-יב
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Topic: בגדי עניים לעשירים
We learnt the ר”ן “ומהא שמעינן who says that the owner of an item determines the status if it is Muktzah based on if it of used to him.
Quickly review תוס’ דף מו: “מי יימר דמיזדקק לה בעל
Does Tosfos agree with the Ran?
Learn תוס’ דף קכז: “כיון who discusses if Terumah is muktzah to a non kohen
Question:
How does the Ran explain why teruma is not considered Muktzah to a Yisrael who possesses it?
See פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס’ ש”ח ס”ק עט
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn רמ”א ס’ ש”ח סע’ ז
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Topic: גמרא דף מז “בגדי עניים לעשירים
We learnt the ר”ן “ומהא שמעינן who says that the owner of an item determines the status if it is Muktzah based on if it of used to him.
Quickly review תוס’ דף מו: “מי יימר דמיזדקק לה בעל
Does Tosfos agree with the Ran?
Learn תוס’ דף קכז: “כיון who discusses if Terumah is muktzah to a non kohen
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn טור & בית יוסף ס’ רע”ט אות ג
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Learn מ”א ס’ רע”ז ס”ק ח
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Learn מ”א רע”ט ס”ק ה ומחצית השקל “כלומר”
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ רע”ז ס”ק יח
https://hebrewbooks.org/
See שער הציון י”ח
And ערוך השולחן ס’ רע”ט סע’ יא-יב
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Discussing the גמרא דף מד. “אבל כוס קערה ועששית until “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines)
Questions:
Why does ר”ש agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?
Learn ריטב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Does רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון also agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?
Learn ח’ ר”ן
https://hebrewbooks.org/
What is the point of dispute between ר”ש & רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון in regards to the oil that drips out of the lantern while the flame is still burning?
Learn רשב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Learn ח’ ר”ן
Important point :
Does ר”ש agree to the concept of מיגו דאתקצאי?
Bring a proof
What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?
Learn the אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – first two paragraphs.
Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?
Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה” for an incredible explanation)
The Gemara brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the flame goes out.
What is the explanation for their argument?
Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the left column “ומה נעים” for an incredible explanation.
Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו.https://hebrewbooks.org/
Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד for a different explanation than the אפיקי ים
https://hebrewbooks.org/
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Sugya: בסיס
Discussing the גמרא דף מז. “א”ר זירא (second line of the Amud) until “לוי בר שמואל”
The גמרא דף קמב states when a basket contains fruits and a rock although the basket is not a Bosis one must first shake out the rock before moving the basket.
Question:
Why in the case of the pan and the ashes does the broken pieces of wood not have to be shaken out?
Learn ריטב”א “הכא נמי
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Learn שו”ע ס’ שי סע’ ח
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Questions:
When do we consider a בסיס לדבר האסור ומותר as a base to the non Muktzah and not reverse?
Learn תוס’ “בגלילא
Learn טור ס’ ש”י סע’ ח and the בית יוסף
https://hebrewbooks.org/
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Is חשוב defined by how the public relates to the item or the individual?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”י סע’ ח
And משנה ברורה ס”ק לג
What determines what is חשוב? Is it value or need?
Learn משנה ברורה ס”‘ רעז ס”‘ק יח
https://hebrewbooks.org/
And אגרות משה אורח חיים ח”ה ס’ כב’ אות יז
https://hebrewbooks.org/
See שולחן שלמה ס’ ש”ח ס”ק כח אות ג who gives a different definition then the משנה ברורה and אג”מ
The classic example to ensure a table is not a בסיס to candlesticks is to leave challah on the table for the period of bein hashmashos at the beginning of Shabbos.
Question:
According to Reb Shlomo Zalman why does that help wouldn’t rather give up the challah than the expensive candlesticks?
See אורחת שבת חלק ב פרק יט הערה תי”ד for an answer
Learn משנה דף מד and the גמרא until “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines)
There are many points and disputes in this sugya.
Questions:
Why is a נר ישן של חרס Muktzah?
What is the point of dispute between ר”י & ר”ש in regards to מוקצה מחמת מיאוס?
According to ר”מ why does a lantern that was lit when Shabbos started remain Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?
Why does ר”ש agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?
Learn ריטב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Does רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון also agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?
Learn ח’ ר”ן
https://hebrewbooks.org/
What is the point of dispute between ר”ש & רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון in regards to the oil that drips out of the lantern while the flame is still burning?
Learn רשב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Learn ח’ ר”ן
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Sugya: בסיס
Very quickly review גמרא דף מז. “א”ר זירא (second line of the Amud) until “לוי בר שמואל”
Question:
Does the Muktzah item that creates the Bosis have to be more valuable than the Bosis?
Are there Muktzah items that will not create a Bosis?
Learn תוס’ “ואמר
Learn תוס’ “הוה
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ ש”י ס”ק לא
https://hebrewbooks.org/
The גמרא דף קמב states when a basket contains fruits and a rock although the basket is not a Bosis one must first shakeout the rock before moving the basket.
Why in the case of the pan and the ashes does the broken pieces of wood not have to be shaken out?
Learn ריטב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/
See שו”ע ס’ שי סע’ ח
https://hebrewbooks.org/
When do we consider a בסיס לדבר האסור ומותר as a base to the non Muktzah and not reverse?
Learn תוס’ “בגלילא
See טור ס’ ש”י סע’ ח and the בית יוסף
https://hebrewbooks.org/
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Is חשוב defined by how the public relates to the item or the individual?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”י סע’ ח
And משנה ברורה ס”ק לג
What determines what is חשוב? Is it value or need?
Learn משנה ברורה ס”‘ רעז ס”‘ק יח
https://hebrewbooks.org/
And אגרות משה אורח חיים ח”ה ס’ כב’ אות יז
https://hebrewbooks.org/
See שולחן שלמה ס’ ש”ח ס”ק כח אות ג who gives a different definition then the משנה ברורה and אג”מ
The classic example to ensure a table is not a בסיס to candlesticks is to leave challah on the table for the period of bein hashmashos at the beginning of Shabbos.
Question:
According to Reb Shlomo Zalman why does that help wouldn’t rather give up the challah than the expensive candlesticks?
See אורחת שבת חלק ב פרק יט הערה תי”ד for an answer
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Sugya: בסיס
Very quickly review גמרא דף מז. “א”ר זירא (second line of the Amud) until “לוי בר שמואל”
Learn תוס’ “ואמר
Learn תוס’ “הוה
See גמרא דף קמב which states when a basket contains fruits and a rock although the basket is not a Bosis one must first shake out the rock before moving the basket.
Why in the case of the pan and the ashes does the broken pieces of wood not have to be shaken out ?
Learn ריטב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/
See שו”ע ס’ שי סע’ ח
https://hebrewbooks.org/
Learn תוס’ “בגלילא
When do we consider a בסיס לדבר האסור ומותר as a base to the non Muktzah and not reverse?
See טור ס’ ש”י סע’ ח and the בית יוסף
https://hebrewbooks.org/
https://hebrewbooks.org/
See שו”ע and משנה ברורה ס”ק לג
Also משנה ברורה ס”‘ רעז ס”‘ק יח
https://hebrewbooks.org/
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