Rabbi Avraham Meisels: Gemara Pesachim – Second Perek – Kol Sha’ah -Daf 32b: Tanu Rabbanan HaOchel Kzayis Terumah Mishaleim Keren ViChomesh… (08/11/26)
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Learn the “גמרא דף מו: “רמי ליה until “מתיב רמי בר חמא” (middle of the Amud)
Sugya – יושב ומצפה
Major Question:
If ר”ש does not hold of מיגו דאתקצאי than why does he require the condition of יושב ומצפה?
There is a major machlokes between ר”י & ר”ש if a lantern that was lit at the beginning of Shabbos remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame is extinguished.
This machlokes is contingent on the concept of מיגו דאתקצאי – something which is Muktza during Bein Hashmoshas remains Muktza for the entire Shabbos.
Major Question:
What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?
Review the אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – first two paragraphs.
Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?
Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה” for an incredible explanation)
The Gemara brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the flame goes out.
What is the explanation for their argument?
Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the left column “ומה נעים” for an incredible explanation.
Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=125&hilite=
Clarify each of their explanations
Learn “רשב”א חולין דף טו “עד כאן לא שרי for his explanation of animal that was slaughtered on Shabbos to feed a sick person
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=215
New Sugya: טלטול מן הצד
Very quickly review גמרא דף מג: “דא”ר שמואל בר יהודה until the two dots on דף מד.
Learn תוס’ דף מג: “טלטול מן הצד
What’s the conclusion of Tosfos as to when טלטול מן הצד is permitted?
Quickly review רא”ש פרק ג ס’ יט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=356
What new type of טלטול does the Rosh allow?
Does Tosfos permit this?
Does Rashi permit it?
Learn ריף
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=590
How do we conclude lhalacha?
How do we conclude lhalacha in regards to moving Muktzah through טלטול מן הצד?
Learn שו”ע ס’ שי”א סע’ א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=132
and מגן אברהם ס”ק ה
See משנה ברורה ס”ק ו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=234
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=235
Learn שו”ע ס’ ש”ט סע’ ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=228
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=229
See משנה ברורה ס”ק יד
and שער הציון ס’ ש”ט אות יז
See שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”ח סע’ ג
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=120
And מגן אברהם ס”ק ז
and משנה ברורה ס”ק יג
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=215
See חזון איש ס’ מז ס”ק יב-יד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=141
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=142
Learn the גמרא דף מו. “אמר רב יהודה until “דף מו: “רמי ליה
Learn “תוס’ “דנפטא
Questions:
What’s the difference between how Rashi & Tosfos explain why it is prohibited to move a שרגא דנפטא?
Why are sticks and stones Muktza even according to ר”ש?
Are there items which are not Keilim which are not Muktzah?
Continue learning the גמרא דף מו: “רמי ליה until “מתיב רמי בר חמא” (middle of the Amud)
Quickly review the “גמרא דף מו. “א”ר יהושע בן לוי” … “הורה במנורה כר”ש בנר (middle of the Amud) until “אמר רב יהודה” (first wide line)
Clarify the two options the gemara presents in how to interpret the line הורה במנורה כר”ש בנר
Learn “תוס’ “הורה until “ואם תאמר”
Learn ריטב”א who clarifies further.
Clarify Tosfos answer as to why we don’t have a third possible interpretation?
Review the “גמרא דף מו. “אמר רב יהודה until the end of the Amud
Learn “תוס’ “דנפטא
Questions:
What’s the difference between how Rashi & Tosfos explain why it is prohibited to move a שרגא דנפטא?
Why are sticks and stones Muktza even according to ר”ש?
Are there items which are not Keilim which are not Muktzah
Review the גמרא דף מו. “ומי אמר ר’ יוחנן (eight lines from top of Amud) until “אמר רב יהודה (first wide line)
Clarify the two options the gemara presents in how to interpret the line הורה במנורה כר”ש בנר
Learn תוס’ “הורה until “ואם תאמר”
Clarify Tosfos answer as to why we don’t have a third possible interpretation?
Continue learning the גמרא דף מו. “אמר רב יהודה until the end of the Amud
Learn תוס’ “דנפטא
What’s the difference between how Rashi & Tosfos explain why it is prohibited to move a שרגא דנפטא?
Why are sticks and stones Muktza even according to ר”ש?
Are there items which are not Keilim which are not Muktzah?
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Questions:
Is the reason of Muktza of קובע לו מקום rejected?
Learn “תוס’ דף מו. “והא
How do we rule lhalacha in regards to moving a מנורה on Shabbos?
Learn רא”ש ס’ כב
Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק כו הלכה י”א
Question:
The Rambam adds an explanation why a Menorah may not be moved becasue it is heavy.
Wasn’t this reason offered in the Gemara – of designating a place for the Menorah – rejected?
Learn כסף משנה
Learn the “גמרא דף מו. “ומי אמר ר’ יוחנן (eight lines from top of Amud) until “אמר רב יהודה” (first wide line)
Clarify the two options the gemara presents in how to interpret the line הורה במנורה כר”ש בנר
Learn “תוס’ “הורה
Clarify his answer as to why we don’t have a third possible interpretation?
Continue learning the “גמרא דף מו. “אמר רב יהודה until the end of the Amud
Learn “תוס’ “דנפטא
Conclusion of Topic: טלטול מוקצה ע”י ככר או תינוק
Explaining גמרא דף מג: “דא”ר שמואל בר יהודה until the two dots on דף מד.
Rebbe Akiva Eiger asks ( גליון הש”ס) why can’t the mattress underneath the dead person act in same way as the ככר או תינוק to allow one to move the dead person?
Summarize the answers
1. The רש”ש דף מג עמ’ ב
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=807
2. The חזון איש או”ח ס’ מז ס”ק כג
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=143
Learn מגן אברהם ס’ ש”ח ס”ק נא
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=125
3. The מגן אברהם ס’ שי”א ס”ק א says that the ככר או תינוק may be placed adjacent to the dead body and does not need to be placed on top.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=132
The משנה ברורה ס’ שי”א ס”ק א & ב
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=234
See ביאור הלכה ס’ שי”א סע’ ד “יש מי שאומר
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=236
In conclusion-
How does placing a ככר או תינוק circumvent the issue of moving Muktzah directly?
According to
1. Rebbe Akiva Eiger
2. Chazon Ish
3. Magen Avraham
New Sugya: טלטול מן הצד
Very quickly review גמרא דף מג: “דא”ר שמואל בר יהודה until the two dots on דף מד.
Learn תוס’ דף מג: “טלטול מן הצד
Question:
What does ר’ יוחנן mean on the גמרא דף מה: – אין לנו בנר כר’ שמעון” ?
Questions:
Based on the explanation of רב יוסף that he did not realize that ר’ יוחנן ruled like ר”י the Gemara brings the ruling of ר’ יוחנן by נר to support this thinking.
How does ר’ יצחק who said that ר’ יוחנן does rule like ר”י explain this quote of ר’ יוחנן?
Learn ריטב”א דף מה: “ור’ יוחנן who gives two ways to explain this quote.
Review תוס’ דף מה: “אין until “ולפי זה” (second wide line)
Clarify how Tosfos is explaining what ר’ יוחנן meant by ruling like ר”ש בנר
Is the reason of Muktza of קובע לו מקום rejected?
Learn תוס’ דף מו. “והא
Continue learning the גמרא דף מו. “ומי אמר ר’ יוחנן (eight lines from top of Amud) until “אמר ר’ יהודה (first wide line)
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