Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Muktza Monday night shiur, Elul 26, Daf 44a (09/07/26)

Discussing the גמרא דף מד. “אבל כוס קערה ועששית until “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines)

Questions:

Why does ר”ש agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Learn ריטב”א 

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Does רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון also agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Learn ח’ ר”ן 

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What is the point of dispute between ר”ש & רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון in regards to the oil that drips out of the lantern while the flame is still burning?

Learn רשב”א

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Learn ח’ ר”ן

Important point :

Does ר”ש agree to the concept of מיגו דאתקצאי?

Bring a proof 

What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?

Learn the אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – first two paragraphs.

Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה” for an incredible explanation)

The Gemara brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the flame goes out.

What is the explanation for their argument?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the left column “ומה נעים” for an incredible explanation. 

Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו.https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=214

Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד for a different explanation than the אפיקי ים

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