In the event someone removed a hot pot from the fire on Friday before Shabbos and placed it on the counter with intent to place on the blech and discovered on Shabbos that he forgot to place on the blech. May he place on the blech on Shabbos?
See אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף נא והערה פד
A pot that was left on a hot spot on the blech and then moved over to a spot which is not יד סולדת with intent to return to the hotter area but person let go of the pot, may it be returned to the hot spot on the blech?
Why does the fact that most people shower/bath daily or frequently not make heating water for bathing into something which is a universal need?
Learn שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק יד הערה כא & ערוך השולחן ס’ תקי”א סע’ ה’ -ו
Can one heat water to take a luke warm shower?
Learn שער הציון ס’ תקי”א אות כה
When one opens up the hot water faucet on Yom Tov, is the water which comes out considered heated before Yom Tov?
Learn שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק יד הערה יב
May one open the hot water tap to take a hot shower although it allows new cold water to enter the hot water tank – effectively heating it up. Is it considered heating up the water to bathe ones entire body or heating for permitted use as the water in the tank is not designated for specific use and will be used to wash dishes or wash one’s hands?
See Celebrating Yom tov from Rabbi Hershel Welcher Chapter 3, footnote 46 below
Write a summary of the laws of chazarah and all it’s conditions based on שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב and the משנה ברורה
Questions:
In case of need which conditions do not need to be met?
What are the following surfaces more comparable to – placing on a bed or placing on the floor?
Kitchen countertop, table, refrigerator?
See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מז והערה אות סו
and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מה והערה עג
And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה ס -סא
For the condition of עודו בידו does one need to hold the pot in their hands or is placing on the counter and keeping ones hand onto the pot handle sufficient?
Would the same apply if placed the pot on the floor and held onto to the handle?
See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מו והערה אות סד
and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מז והערה עו
And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה סב
In the event someone removed a hot pot from the fire on Friday before Shabbos and placed it on the counter with intent to place on the blech and discovered on Shabbos that he forgot to place on the blech. May he place on the blech on Shabbos?
Are these cases similar to the case and machlokes between Rebbe Akiva Eiger & Rav Shachris or different?
If it is different is it more of a reason to say it is permissable to return to the bleach or prohibited? – Why?
1. A pot slides off the blech on to the counter top?
2. A pot slides to the floor?
3. The electricity or fire goes out?
(See אגרות משה או”ח חלק ד ס’ ע”ד בישול אות לא, קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מט והערה סח, שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כז והערה עט, שו”ת בצל החכמה חלק ד ס’ קלז ס”ק יט, אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מט והערה פב)
4. The electricity goes out and a few hours later goes back on by the electric company and the food remained on hot plate the entire time?
See אורחת שבת above)
5. Someone mistakenly takes the Shabbos day cholent off the fire thinking it is the chicken soup pot for the Friday night sueda and places on the counter without intent to return?
What if he places it on the ground?
(See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ גם והערה עה, שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כג והערה עה ,שו”ת בצל החכמה חלק ד ס’ קלז ס”ק יח, אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מה והערה עח)
Questions:
Write a summary of the laws of chazarah and all it’s conditions based on שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב and the משנה ברורה
In case of need which conditions do not need to be met?
What are the following surfaces more comparable to – placing on a bed or placing on the floor?
Kitchen countertop, table, refrigerator?
See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מז והערה אות סו
and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מה והערה עג
And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה ס -סא
For the condition of עודו בידו does one need to hold the pot in their hands or is placing on the counter and keeping ones hand onto the pot handle sufficient?
Would the same apply if placed the pot on the floor and held onto to the handle?
See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מו והערה אות סד
and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מז והערה עו
And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה סב
In the event someone removed a hot pot from the fire on Friday before Shabbos and placed it on the counter with intent to place on the blech and discovered on Shabbos that he forgot to place on the blech. May he place on the blech on Shabbos?
Review ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע which summarizes the halacha of the case of Rebbe Akiva Eiger whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return but it is still in his hand.
What is the halacha in the cases below?
Are these cases similar to the case and machlokes between Rebbe Akiva Eiger & Rav Shachris or different?
If it is different is it more of a reason to say it is permissable to return to the bleach or prohibited? – Why?
1. A pot slides off the blech on to the counter top?
2. A pot slides to the floor?
3. The electricity or fire goes out?
(See אגרות משה או”ח חלק ד ס’ ע”ד בישול אות לא, קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מט והערה סח, שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כז והערה עט, שו”ת בצל החכמה חלק ד ס’ קלז ס”ק יט, אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מט והערה פב)
4. The electricity goes out and a few hours later goes back on by the electric company and the food remained on hot plate the entire time?
See אורחת שבת above)
5. Someone mistakenly takes the Shabbos day cholent off the fire thinking it is the chicken soup pot for the Friday night sueda and places on the counter without intent to return?
What if he places it on the ground?
(See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ גם והערה עה, שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כג והערה עה ,שו”ת בצל החכמה חלק ד ס’ קלז ס”ק יח, אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מה והערה עח)
Write a summary of the laws of chazarah and all it’s conditions based on שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב and the משנה ברורה
In case of need which conditions do not need to be met?
Questions:
What are the following surfaces more comparable to – placing on a bed or placing on the floor?
Kitchen countertop, table, refrigerator?
See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מז והערה אות סו
and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מה והערה עג
And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה ס -סא
For the condition of עודו בידו does one need to hold the pot in their hands or is placing on the counter and keeping ones hand onto the pot handle sufficient?
Would the same apply if placed the pot on the floor and held onto to the handle?
See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מו והערה אות סד
and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מז והערה עו
And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה סב
In the event someone removed a hot pot from the fire on Friday before Shabbos and placed it on the counter with intent to place on the blech and discovered on Shabbos that he forgot to place on the blech. May he place on the blech on Shabbos?
B) As long as there is no specific intent not to return?
What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech onto the countertop, may it be returned to the blech?
If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?
Review ה’ רע”א ס’ רנ”ג אות ו
What is the reason if someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?
According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?
Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger
Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע which summarizes the halacha of the case of Rebbe Akiva Eiger
Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop?
What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?
See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Aurbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.
If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it in the ground is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?
If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and does not have intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand. Is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?
Learn ה’ רע”א ס’ רנ”ג אות ו
Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע
Point to consider
Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to have specific intent to return or as long as do not have specific intent not to return?
What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech onto the countertop, may it be returned to the blech?
If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?
What is the reason if someone removed your pot from the fire on Shabbos and placed it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?
According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?
Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger
Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop?
What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?
See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Auerbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.
The Gemara records a story in which Rebbe Elazar Ben Azaria and Rebbe Akiva went into a bath house to be מזיע. Afterwards they went into the outer room in which the hot water was covered by boards and showered.
Did they take a hot shower or cold shower?
Learn תוס’ “אלא
The Gemara says the bathhouse attendants started hearing water on Shabbos and saying it was heated on Friday. Was the Rabanan concerned that a Jewish person would intentionally violate Shabbos by heating up water?
Learn ר”ן “אמר ר’ שמעון בן פזי
The Braissa says that it is permitted to enter a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov. Is it also permitted on Shabbos?
Does the Rabinic prohibition of bathing ones body in hot water also prohibit entering a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov?
The Gemara says the bathhouse attendants started hearing water on Shabbos and saying it was heated on Friday. Was the Rabanan concerned that a Jewish person would intentionally violate Shabbos by hearing up water?
Learn ר”ן “אמר ר’ שמעון בן פזי
The Braissa says that it is permitted to enter a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov. Is it also permitted on Shabbos?
Does the Rabinic prohibition of bathing ones body in hot water also prohibit entering a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov?
