Category: Gemara

Quickly review the “גמרא דף לו: “אתרוג קטן (two dots) until the Mishna

In conclusion:
According to רבי יהודה, why is an Esrog that is larger than half of his handgrip pasul?
According to רבי יוסי is there a maximum size for an Esrog?

Review “תוספת דף לד: “שתהא
Tosfos brings a machlokes between the בה”ג and ר”ת whether one must hold all the Daled minim in his hand at the same time in order to fulfill the Mitzvah.
Question:
According to ר”ת that one must hold all the Daled minim at the same time how can an Esrog the size of a watermelon be kosher as it’s impossible to hold all the minim?
See ערוך לנר

Learn the משנה דף לו עמוד ב and the Gemara until “אמרו לו” (second to last line of the Amud)

Questions on רבי יהודה:
The Anshei Yerushalayim had two bindings around their Lulav. The real binding was למטה. What does למטה mean in this case; beneath or underneath?

Why isn’t the second binding of the golden strap an issue of בל תוסיף?
See רש”י על המשנה “במינו אוגדין and רא”ש ס’ כד “אין אוגדין https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=480

Does one have to have specific intent for the golden strap to be placed for beauty in order for it not to be an issue of בל תוסיף?

Does it matter which one was placed first?
See מאירי “אמר לו ר’ יהודה (paragraph אמר) https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=57966&st=&pgnum=96

See “שפת אמת “במינו https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14522&st=&pgnum=198

Questions:
According to ר”מ/רבנן who hold לולב אין צורך אגד why is one not in violation by using different material to bind the Lulav?
Learn “תוספות דף לא: “הואיל https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=31b&format=pdf
Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “דתניא until the two dots on top of דף יז for a different explanation than Tosfos

Tosfos says that in order to transgress בל תוסיף the extra item has to be held דרך גדילתו – in the direction that it grows. According to ר”מ why is it permitted to bind the Lulav with gold band as gold doesn’t grow from the ground so should not be limited to דרך גדילתו?
See רש”ש

Learn רא”ש פרק שלישי ס’ יד בגמרא starting from וכל הני שיעורים ” https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=478

Learn the גמרא דף לו: אתרוג קטן until “ובגדול כדי שיאחז” (two dots) https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=36b&format=pdf
Question:
What is the comparison of the size of the stones one is permitted to carry into the בית הכסא on Shabbos to the minimum size of an Esrog?
See ערוך לנר “כך מחלוקת
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=138

Review the last four lines of the משנה דף לד עמוד ב starting from “שיעור אתרוג קטן” which brings a machlokes between רבי יהודה and רבי יוסי regarding the maximum size of an Esrog
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=34b&format=pdf

Learn the “גמרא דף לו: “אתרוג קטן (two dots) until the Mishna
Questions:
According to רבי יהודה why is an Esrog that is larger than half of his hand grip pasul?
Learn the גמרא דף לא: “ת”ש ובגדול (three lines before the wide lines) until the two dots.
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=31b&format=pdf

Does רבי יוסי have a maximum size for an Esrog?
Learn the ר”ן דף יח. דפי הריף “משנה – ובגדול כדי שיאחז until the next Mishna.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=618

Learn תוספת דף לד: “שתהא
Who brings machlokes between the בה”ג and ר”ת whether one must hold all the Daled minim in his hand at the same time in order to fulfill the Mitzvah.
Question:
According to ר”ת that one must hold all the Daled minim at the same time how can an Esrog the size of a watermelon be kosher as it’s impossible to hold all the minim?
See ערוך לנר

Conclusion of Sugya: פסולי ד מינים ביום ראשון ושאר ימי סוכות

The “גמרא דף לו: “איתמר until the two dots.

Write the different answers to the following question:
Why is the disqualification of לקיחה תמה only pasul for the first day and yet a lack of הדר disqualified for the entire Sukkos when they are both learnt from the same pasuk?
We have learnt a couple of reasons

1. Rashi
2. Tosfos – “תוס’ דף כט: “בעינן
3. Ran – “רן דף יג: דפי הריף “ומיהו

Learn the – “רן דף יג: דפי הריף “אבל הרמב”ן” (second to last line) until “דף יד. דפי הריף “אבל הראב”ד who presents a fourth explanation from the Ramban
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=609&hilite=

Learn רמב״ם הלכות לולב פרק ח הלכה ח-ט and the ראב”ד on the Rambam https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&st=&pgnum=293
Questions:
There are two gemaras which seem to contradict the ruling of the Rambam.
How could the Rambam & Raavad rule that a lack of Hadar will only disqualify an Esrog on the first day of Sukkos when the Gemara דף כט עמוד ב says clearly that it will disqualify the entire Sukkos?
Our Gemara says the split between the first day and the rest of the days of Sukkos is applicable to an Esrog which is חסר and not for an Esrog which is lacking in Hadar from mice nibbling on the Esrog?
Learn the כסף משנה & לחם משנה for an answer or these two questions

How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ט סעיף ה and משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=245&hilite=

Learn the גמרא דף לו: אתרוג קטן until “ובגדול כדי שיאחז” (two dots) https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=36b&format=pdf
Question:
What is the comparison of the size of the stones one is permitted to carry into the בית הכסא on Shabbos to the minimum size of an Esrog?
See ערוך לנר “כך מחלוקת
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=138

Review the last four lines of the משנה דף לד עמוד ב starting from “שיעור אתרוג קטן” which brings a machlokes between רבי יהודה and רבי יוסי regarding the maximum size of an Esrog
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=34b&format=pdf

Learn the גמרא דף לו: “גדלו בדפוס until “איתמר”

Questions:
Why is an Esrog that grows inside a mold with a different shape pasul?

Learn the “גמרא דף לו: “איתמר until the two dots.

Questions:
For which days of Sukkos does the disqualification of לקיחה תמה and lack of הדר apply?
According to Rashi, why is an Esrog with a lack of הדר disqualified for the entire Sukkos?
According to the לישנא קמא (first version of the opinion of רבה) why is an Esrog which a person nibbled on not a lack in הדר?
According to the לישנא בתרא (second version of the opinion of רבה) why is an Esrog which mice nibbled on not a lack in הדר?
Why is the disqualification of לקיחה תמה only pasul for the first day and yet a lack of הדר disqualified for the entire Sukkos when they are both learnt from the same pasuk?
Learn “תוס’ דף כט: “בעינן – focus on the final answer of Tosfos “לכך נראה”

Questions on Tosfos:
Why would the Rabanan not establish the mitzvah drabanan of the daled minim entirely like the requirements of the Torah?
Is Tosfos’ explanation the same as Rashi?

Learn “רן דף יג: דפי הריף “ומיהו for a new explanation of our gemara and a different answer to the original question. Focus on the explanation of the Ramban (second to last line on דף יג: דפי הריף )
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=46674&st=&pgnum=56

Learn ר”ן bottom of דף יז: דפי הריף “הא ביו”ט ראשון until the top of דף יח. – מתניתן
And the “ר”ן דף יג: דפי הריף “ומיהו until the two dots
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=609&hilite=

Question:
Why is the disqualification of לקיחה תמה only pasul for the first day and yet a lack of הדר disqualified for the entire Sukkos when they are both learnt from the same pasuk?
We have learnt a couple of reasons

1. Rashi
   (See the ר”ן for his understanding of Rashi. Ran bottom of דף יז: דפי הריף “הא ביו”ט ראשון until the top of דף יח. – מתניתן https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=617)
2. Tosfos https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=29b&format=pdf

Learn the “רן דף יג: דפי הריף “ומיהו until “אבל הרמב”ן” (second to last line) for a third explanation to the original question.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=609
Questions:
According the the Ran
Why is an Esrog which is חסר pasul?
Why is it only pasul for the first day of Sukkos?

Continue learning the Ran from the “אבל הרמב”ן” (second to last line) until דף יח. דפי הריף “אבל הראב”ד who presents a fourth explanation from the Ramban (second to last line on דף יג: דפי הריף )
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=609&hilite=

Learn רמב״ם הלכות לולב פרק ח הלכה ח-ט and the ראב”ד on the Rambam https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&st=&pgnum=293
Question:
How does the Rambam explain our Gemara?
See the כסף משנה & לחם משנה

Review the גמרא דף נד: ” מיתיבי (second wide line of the Amud) until “דף נה. מיתיבי (third line)

Question:
Is the principle of תדיר קדים just in regards to what comes first in an order of procedure or even in regards to selecting one out of two which would be performed?
Learn תוס’ “ואמאי
Learn תוספת שבת דף כג: “הדר
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=23b&format=pdf
which discusses what Haftarah is read on Shabbos Chanukah when it coincides with Rosh Chodesh. Tosfos quotes the Rashba that the Haftarah of Chanukah is read as פרסומי ניסא is greater then reason of תדיר as is the conclusion of Rava in the gemara Shabbos. However for the krias hatorah the reading of the parsha of Rosh Chodesh comes first before krias hatorah of Chanukah as both kriah’s will be read and it’s just a question of which one is read first then we say תדיר קודם.
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרפד סע’ ג
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=425
And מגן אברהם ס”ק ב which asks a question on our Tosfos based on the conclusion of Tosfos in Shabbos
See אשל אברהם ס”ק ב for an explanation of the question of the מגן אברהם

Learn ערוך לנר דף נד: על תוס
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=213
and פסקי ריד על גמרא
“פסקי רי”ד מסכת סוכה דף נד עמוד ב
מיתיבי ראש חודש שחל להיות בשבת שיר של ראש חודש דוחה שבת, ואם איתה לימ’ דראש חודש ולימ’ דשבת, אמ’ רב פפא מאי דוחה לקדם, ואמאי תדיר ושאינו תדיר תדיר (ל)קדם, אמ’ ר’ יוחנ’ לידע שהוקבע ראש חודש בזמנו. מיכן מוכיח שאם אמ’ שיר אח’ ראש חודש דוחה שבת, ואף על גב דשבת תדירה, זה שבא לפרקי’ דוחה אותו. ומיכן יש להוכיח להביא ראייה דראש [חדש] טבת שחל להיות בשבת ההפטרה דחנוכה אמרי’ שהיא באה לפרקים ולא דראש חודש שהיא תדירה.

Continue learning the גמרא דף נה until the end of the Amud
Learn תוספת דף מה. “איתקן
And שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרסג סע’ א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=269

Very quickly review the גמרא דף נד: “ואין מוסיפים על מ”ח and continue learning until “מיתיבי” (second wide line)
Clarify the points below we started discussing yesterday
Questions:
Was water drawn for Nisuch Hamayim on Yom tov?
See רש”י דף נד: “והיכי דמי
And רש”י דף נד. “לפי שאין תוקעים למילוי המים בשבת (six lines from bottom of the Amud)
Learn תוס’ דף נד: כגון
Learn מהרש”א דף נד: “בפרש”י which asks a contradiction between the above two Rashi’s?
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=510

And תוס’ דף נ: “ורבנן (starting from “ומיהו קשה”)

Learn ערוך לנר דף נ: על תוס’ “ורבנן דברי המתחיל “ואגב דגזור בהו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=199

Learn רמב״ם הלכות כלי המקדש פרק ז הלכה ו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&st=&pgnum=36&hilite=
Question:
The Rambam says there were no tekios on Shabbos. This seems unnecessary to state as there was no filling of the water on Shabbos so no reason for tekios?

Learn ערוך לנר דף נד: על רש”י “והיכי דמי
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=213

Continue learning the גמרא דף נד: ” מיתיבי (second wide line of the Amud) until “דף נה. מיתיבי (third line)

Question:
Is the principle of תדיר קדים just in regards to what comes first in an order of procedure or even in regards to selecting one out of two which would be performed?
Learn תוס’ “ואמאי
Learn ערוך לנר דף נד: על תוס’
and פסקי ריד על גמרא

Continue learning the גמרא דף נה until the end of the Amud