Category: Gemara
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Borer – Wednesday night shiur, Chanukah 4th night – Chanukah Sugya (12/17/25)
Chanukah Sugya:
Muktza status of oil and wicks from the Menorah
Learn גמרא שבת דף כא: “וכתב אין זקוק לה ורמינהו (twelfth line from top of the Amud) until the two dots.
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=21b&format=pdf
What does the לשיעורה mean?
See Rashi
Learn רי”ף for a different explanation.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=567&hilite=
Is it permitted to use the leftover oil of the candle went out in middle of the first half an hour?
Learn ר”ן who explains based on the Rif it is permitted. And brings the position of the גאונים who say one is prohibited from using the leftover oil even after chanukah
Learn תוס’ שבת דף מד. שבנר
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=44&format=pdf
According to Tosfos is the oil that remains even after the candle lit for half an hour prohibited to be used?
Why is the remaining oil different than the leftover of other Mitzvos which are permitted to be used after the Yom tov – for example the wood used for ones Sukkah?
See Tosfos answer
Learn תוס’ רא”ש דף מד
How do we rule?
Learn רא”ש פרק ה’ ס’ ג & ס’ ט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=345&hilite=
Learn טור ס’ תרע”ב
Learn טור ס’ תרע”ז סע’ ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14268&st=&pgnum=606
Major Question:
The Tur seems to contradict himself in regards to using leftover oil?
Learn בית יוסף ס’ תרע”ז ס”ק ד and ב”ח ס”ק ה who give two answers how to resolve the contradictory ruling of the Tur.
What is the difference between the two answers of the Beis Yosef?
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרע”ז סע’ ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=421
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=422
Learn מגן אברהם ס”ק י
Learn משנה ברורה and ביאור הלכה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=297
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרע”ב סע’ ב and משנה ברורה ס”ק ז
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=285
See משנה ברורה ס”ק ח for a new reason from the מהרש”ל not to use the light from the Menorah after it burnt for the required amount of time.
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Morning Kollel: גמרא שבת -סוגיא דמוקצה – דף מה: טלטול נר ומנורה מפני הסכנה (12/17/25)
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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום רביעי, Chanukah Day 3, Chanukah Sugya (12/17/25)
Chanukah Sugya:
Muktza status of oil and wicks from the Menorah
Review גמרא שבת דף כא: “וכתב אין זקוק לה ורמינהו (twelfth line from top of the Amud) until the two dots.
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=21b&format=pdf
What does the לשיעורה mean?
See Rashi
Learn רי”ף for a different explanation.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=567&hilite=
Is it permitted to use the leftover oil of the candle went out in middle of the first half an hour?
Learn ר”ן who explains based on the Rif it is permitted. And brings the position of the גאונים who say one is prohibited from using the leftover oil even after chanukah
Learn תוס’ שבת דף מד. שבנר
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=44&format=pdf
According to Tosfos is the oil that remains even after the candle lit for half an hour prohibited to be used?
Why is the remaining oil different than the leftover of other Mitzvos which are permitted to be used after the Yom tov – for example the wood used for ones Sukkah?
See Tosfos answer
Learn תוס’ רא”ש דף מד
How do we rule?
Learn רא”ש פרק ה’ ס’ ט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=345&hilite=
Learn טור ס’ תרע”ב
Learn טור ס’ תרע”ז סע’ ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14268&st=&pgnum=606
Major Question:
The Tur seems to contradict himself in regards to using leftover oil?
Learn בית יוסף ס’ תרע”ז ס”ק ד & ב”ח ס”ק ה who resolve the contradictory ruling of the Tur.
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרע”ז סע’ ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=421
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=422
Learn מגן אברהם ס”ק י
Learn משנה ברורה and ביאור הלכה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=297
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרע”ב סע’ ב and משנה ברורה ס”ק ז
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=285
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שלישי, Chanukah Day 2, Chanukah Sugya (12/16/25)
Chanukah Sugya:
Muktza status of oil and wicks from the Menorah
Review גמרא שבת דף כא: “וכתב אין זקוק לה ורמינהו (twelfth line from top of the Amud) until the two dots.
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=21b&format=pdf
What does the לשיעורה mean?
See Rashi
Learn רי”ף for a different explanation.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=567&hilite=
Is it permitted to use the leftover oil of the candle went out in middle of the first half an hour?
Learn ר”ן who explains based on the Rif it is permitted. And brings the position of the גאונים who say one is prohibited from using the leftover oil even after chanukah
Learn תוס’ שבת דף מד. שבנר
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=44&format=pdf
According to Tosfos is the oil that remains even after the candle lit for half an hour prohibited to be used?
Why is the remaining oil different than the leftover of other Mitzvos which are permitted to be used after the Yom tov – for example the wood used for ones Sukkah?
See Tosfos answer
Learn תוס’ רא”ש דף מד
How do we rule?
Learn רא”ש פרק ה’ ס’ ט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=345&hilite=
Learn טור ס’ תרע”ב
Learn טור ס’ תרע”ז סע’ ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14268&st=&pgnum=606
Major Question:
The Tur seems to contradict himself in regards to using leftover oil?
Learn בית יוסף ס’ תרע”ז ס”ק ד & ב”ח ס”ק ה who resolve the contradictory ruling of the Tur.
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרע”ז סע’ ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=421
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=422
Learn מגן אברהם ס”ק י
Learn משנה ברורה and ביאור הלכה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=297
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרע”ב סע’ ב and משנה ברורה ס”ק ז
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=285
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שני, First day of Chanukah, Chanukah Sugya Daf 45a (12/15/25)
Chanukah Sugya:
Muktza status of oil and wicks from the Menorah
Learn גמרא שבת דף כא: “וכתב אין זקוק לה ורמינהו (twelfth line from top of the Amud) until the two dots.
What does the לשיעורה mean?
See Rashi
Learn רי”ף for a different explanation.
Is it permitted to use the leftover oil of the candle went out in middle of the first half an hour?
Learn ר”ן
Learn תוס’ שבת דף מד. שבנר who argues on the ר”ן
According to Tosfos is the oil that remains even after the candle lit for half an hour prohibited to be used?
Why is the remaining oil different than the leftover of other Mitzvos which are permitted to be used after the Yom tov – for example the wood used for ones Sukkah?
See Tosfos answer
Learn תוס’ רא”ש דף מד
How do we rule lhalacha?
Learn רא”ש פרק ה’ ס’ ט
Learn טור ס’ תרע”ז סע’ ד
Learn בית יוסף who questions the ruling of the Tur
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרע”ז סע’ ד
Learn מגן אברהם ס”ק י
Learn משנה ברורה and ביאור הלכה
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרע”ב סע’ ב and משנה ברורה ס”ק ז
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום חמישי, Kislev 21, Daf 42b – Sugya – Solid hot foods & Ladles (12/11/25)
Ladle
When using a ladle to spoon out from a Kli Rishon; is the bowl that the soup is being poured into considered a Kli Sheini or a Kli Shlishi?
See ט”ז אורח חיים ס’ שי”ח ס”ק י”ט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=158
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק פז who brings that it is considered a Kli Rishon.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=280&hilite=
However see the leniency the Mishna Berura ס”ק מה says regarding dipping challah inside the bowl of soup.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=276&hilite=
See קובץ הלכות הלכות שבת פרק כה סע’ י
Solid hot food
Learn מגן אברהם ס’ שי”ח ס”ק מ”ה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=159
See ש”ך יורה דעה ס’ קה ס”ק ח
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9145&st=&pgnum=497
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9145&st=&pgnum=498
Who says that a solid hot food item does not receive the leniency when placed in a Kli Sheini or Shlishi. See the reason why?
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק מה “in middle ”דיש פוסקים שסוברים ….
Based on the above may one place a pickle on top of a hot piece of kugel?
See אורחת שבת חלק א פרק א סע’ סא & הערה קמו- קמז
Thermos & Styrofoam cup
Does hot water poured from a Kil Rishon into a thermos have the status of a Kli Sheini as the thermos was not the utensil the water was cooked inside of or does it have the status of a Kli Rishon as the thermos retains the heat unlike a regular Kli Sheini?
See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א הערה קכב
See קובץ הלכות הלכות שבת פרק כה סע’ ט
Cooking after cooking
Quickly review the משנה דף לח עמוד ב which clearly says that once an item was cooked it may be reheated inside a Kli Rishon.
Does this apply to liquid that was cooked and cooled down?
Learn רש'”י דף לד. “משחשכה
And רא”ש פרק כ ס’ יא
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ שי”ח סע’ ד & טו
How does the Mechaber rule?
How does the Rema rule?
Learn משנה ברורה
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Morning Kollel: גמרא שבת -סוגיא דמוקצה – סוגיא דמוכני – דף מד: טלטול בגד וכית מלא מעות (12/11/25)
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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Borer – Monday & Wednesday night shiur, Kislev 21 – Daf 74a – One item (12/10/25)
Borer on the same item
Is it permitted to select and separate the large pieces from the smaller pieces of the same item?
We discussed the ruling of the תרומות הדשן and the שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ שי”ט סע’ ג that it is permitted
https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40527&st=&pgnum=263&hilite=
We discussed the ט”ז ס”ק ב who brings multiple proofs that there is Borer by one time of food item.
The משנה ברורה ס”ק טו rules like the Shulchan Aruch
Learn משנה שבת דף קלט: “ונותנין ביצה מסננת של חרדל
Why is it permitted to separate the yolk from the egg white?
Learn רש”י and the ר”ן
There are three explanations
Learn טור ס’ שי”ט סע’ טו
Learn ב”ח ס”ק י
Learn מגן אברהם ס’ שי”ט ס”ק טז
Learn ט”ז ס’ שי”ט ס”ק יב
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ שי”ט סע’ טו and משנה ברורה
See אורחת שבת חלק א פרק כ סע’ לב-לז
And קובץ הלכות חלק ב פרק כזה סע’ י”ח – מח
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום רביעי, Kislev 20, Yahrzeit of Rebbetzin Singer a”h, Daf 42b – Sugya – Solid hot foods & Ladles (12/10/25)
Making tea on Shabbos
Based on the halachos of Kli Sheini & Kli Shlishi
What is the best permissible method to make hot tea on Shabbos?
See משנה ברורה ס”ק לט for a lengthy discussion about this.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=275
Ladle
When using a ladle to spoon out from a Kli Rishon; is the bowl that the soup is being poured into considered a Kli Sheini or a Kli Shlishi?
See ט”ז אורח חיים ס’ שי”ח ס”ק י”ט
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק מה who brings that it is considered a Kli Rishon.
However see the leniency the Mishna Berura says regarding dipping challah inside the bowl of soup.
See קובץ הלכות הלכות שבת פרק כה סע’ י
Solid hot food
Learn מגן אברהם ס’ שי”ח ס”ק מ”ה
See ש”ך יורה דעה ס’ קה ס”ק ח
Who says that a solid hot food item does not receive the leniency when placed in a Kli Sheini or Shlishi. See the reason why?
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק מה “in middle ”דיש פוסקים שסוברים ….
Based on the above may one place a pickle on top of a hot piece of kugel?
See אורחת שבת חלק א פרק א סע’ סא & הערה קמו- קמז
Thermos & Styrofoam cup
Does hot water poured from a Kil Rishon into a thermos have the status of a Kli Sheini as the thermos was not the utensil the water was cooked inside of or does it have the status of a Kli Rishon as the thermos retains the heat unlike a regular Kli Sheini?
See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א הערה קכב
See קובץ הלכות הלכות שבת פרק כה סע’ ט
Cooking after cooking
Quickly review the משנה דף לח עמוד ב which clearly says that once an item was cooked it may be reheated inside a Kli Rishon.
Does this apply to liquid that was cooked and cooled down?
Learn רש'”י דף לד. “משחשכה
And רא”ש פרק כ ס’ יא
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ שי”ח סע’ ד & טו
How does the Mechaber rule?
How does the Rema rule?
Learn משנה ברורה
Rabbi Avraham Meisels: Gemara Pesachim – Second Perek – Kol Sha’ah – Daf 23b-24a: Yasiv Hahju MeiRabanan Kamei diRav Shmuel bar Nachmeini (12/09/25)
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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שלישי, Kislev 19 – Daf 42b Sugya – Kli Shlishi (12/09/25)
Is there a difference in regards to the heat of a Kli Sheini to affect cooking?
Learn רמב”ם ה’ מעשרות פרק כ הלכה יד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58962&st=&pgnum=129
Learn חיי אדם ה’ שבת פרק כ סע’ ד and the שער מצות הארץ בינת אדם פרק כ אות א (on bottom) who introduces a new reason to prohibit
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49397&st=&pgnum=257&hilite=
What are the sources of the Chayei Adam for this new chidush?
Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק כב הלכה ו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=100
Do we rule in accordance with this stringency?
By a Kli Sheini?
By a Kli Shlishi?
Learn משנה ברורה ס”ק מ”ח
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=276
And חזון איש אורח חיים ס’ נב אות י”ט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=161
Based on the halachos of Kli Sheini & Kli Shlishi
What is the best permissible method to make hot tea on Shabbos?
See משנה ברורה ס”ק לט for a lengthy discussion about this.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=275
The ladle argument
When using a ladle to spoon out from a Kli Rishon; is the bowl that the soup is being poured into considered a Kli Sheini or a Kli Shlishi?
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק פז
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=280
Solid hot food
Learn
Who says that a solid hot food item does not receive the leniency when placed in a Kli Sheini or Shlishi. See the reason why?
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק מה “in middle ”דיש פוסקים שוברים …
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=276&hilite=
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Borer – Monday – Kislev 19 – Daf 74a – One item (12/08/25)
Borer on the same item
Is it permitted to select and separate the large pieces from the smaller pieces of the same item?
Do we rule like the תרומות הדשן ?
https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1835&pgnum=28
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ שי”ט סע’ ג
https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40527&st=&pgnum=263&hilite=
Learn ט”ז ס”ק ב who brings multiple proofs that there is Borer by one time of food item.
Clarify all the proofs of the Taz
https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14211&st=&pgnum=157&hilite=
Do we rule like the Taz?
Learn משנה ברורה
Are the following items considered one species of two species?
Grilled and boiled food items
Chicken breast and a chicken legs
Different types of apples
Whole matza and broken pieces
White part of an egg and the yolk
See אורחת שבת חלק א פרק כ סע’ לב-לז
And קובץ הלכות חלק ב פרק כזה סע’ י”ח – מח
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שני, Kislev 18 – Daf 42b Sugya – Kli Shlishi (12/08/25)
Kli Shlishi
The Gemara clearly states that there are items that are קלי בישול and cook easily and quickly. Those items can cook inside a Kli Sheini.
The Magen Avraham ruled that since we don’t know what items are not קלי בישול we have to be strict on placing any raw items that is raw except for the items listed in the Gemara that definitely do not cook in a Kli Sheini.
Point to Consider
Do we have the concept of קלי בישול in regards to a Kli Shlishi?
Summarize the opinions we learn regarding if there is difference between a Kli Sheini and a Kli Shlishi.
1. The dispute between the Beis Yosef and the Bach.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14268&st=&pgnum=45
2. The position of the Pri Megadim and his proof
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&st=&pgnum=204
3. The dispute between the Mishna Berura and the Chazon Ish
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=276
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=161
4. The ruling of Rav Moshe Feinstein zt”l and the basis of his ruling
See אגרות משה אורח חיים חלק ד ס’ עד בישול אות טו & יח
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=920&st=&pgnum=139
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=920&st=&pgnum=140
Is there a difference in regards to the heat of a Kli Sheini to affect cooking?
Learn חיי אדם ה’ שבת פרק כ סע’ ד and the נשמת אדם (on bottom) who introduces a new reason to prohibit
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49397&st=&pgnum=257&hilite=
What are the sources of the Chayei Adam for this new concept?
Do we rule in accordance with this stringency?
Learn משנה ברורה ס”ק מ”ח
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=276
And חזון איש אורח חיים ס’ נב אות י”ט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=161
What is the best permissible method to make hot tea on Shabbos?
See משנה ברורה ס”ק לט for a lengthy discussion about this.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=275
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Morning Kollel: גמרא שבת -סוגיא דמוקצה – דף מד. – דף מד: מטה שיחדה למעות (12/05/25)
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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום חמישי, Rabbi Singer Yahrzeit – Kislev 14 – Daf 42b – Sugya – Kli Shlishi (12/04/25)
Kli Shlishi
What’s the difference between Kli Rishon and Kli Sheini?
Learn תוס’ דף מ: “ושמע
Is this difference applicable between Kli Sheini and a Kli Shlishi?
May raw items be placed in a Kli Shlishi?
There is a dispute between the Beis Yosef and the Bach
What is their proof for their position?
See בית יוסף ס’ שי”ח סע’ יא “ועוד יש לי לומר
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14268&st=&pgnum=45
And ב”ח ס’ שי”ח סע’ יא אות זה “וכתב עוד בית יוסף
See פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס’ שי”ח ס”ק לה “ואם יש לחלק בין כ”ש לכלי שלישי
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&st=&pgnum=204
See פרי מגדים משבצות זהב ס’ שי”ח ס”ק ט”ו & י”ז
Learn חיי אדם ה’ שבת פרק כ סע’ ד who introduces a new reason to prohibit
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49397&st=&pgnum=257&hilite=
See משנה ברורה ס”ק מה, מז & מח for his position
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=276
Learn חזון איש אורח חיים ס’ נב אות י”ט
Note the reasoning of the Chazon Ish
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=161
Learn אגרות משה אורח חיים חלק ד ס’ עד בישול אות טו & יח who says it is permissable.
What is the basis of the Igros Moshe?
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=920&st=&pgnum=139
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=920&st=&pgnum=140
What is the best permissible method to make hot tea on Shabbos?
See משנה ברורה ס”ק לט for a lengthy discussion about this.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=275
