Rabbi Avraham Meisels: Gemara Avodah Zarah – Fifth Perek: Daf 73a (03/14/24)
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Very quickly review גמרא דף כג: “ר’ יוסי אומר (two dots) until “קרפף” (ten lines from bottom of the Amud)
Quickly review משנה דף כג
List the five different תנאים and clearly explain the difference between each opinion.
Learn תוס’ דף כג. “ובלבד starting from “ומה שפ’ רש”י (first wide line) until the end of Tosfos
Question:
What is the difference between Rashi and Tosfos explanation of ר’ יהודה בן בבא
Learn ריטב”א דף כג. “ובלבד
Clarify the difference between Tosfos and the Ritva
Quickly review the גמרא דף מח: “הנהו תרי מיני until the two dots.
In the shemoneh esreh of Yom tov we say מועדים לשמחה חגים וזמנים לששון. Why are מועדים referenced with שמחה and the חגים וזמנים with ששון?
See the commentary of שיח יצחק in the סידור הגר”א on page 725 of the Yom tov shemoneh esrei
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21127&st=&pgnum=370
See the מלבים ישעיה פרק לה פסוק י
Major Question:
How is it permitted to use the skin to make a water canteen when the halacha is the body of a dead person is אסור בהנאה?
See שולחן ערוך יורה דעה סימן שמ”ט סע’ א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9732&st=&pgnum=587
See ערוך לנר
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=187
See שו”ת שבות יעקב חלק א ס’ פ”ט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1519&st=&pgnum=42
And הערות from Hagaon Harav Elyashiv
What is the source for ניסוך המים?
Learn גמרא תענית דף ב: “ר’ יהודה בן בתירא אומר (six lines from bottom of the Amud) until the two dots in middle of דף ג
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=10&daf=2b&format=pdf
What is the connection between what day we start saying משיב הרוח to the day of ניסוך המים?
See משנה ראש השנה דף טז and גמרא “תניא א”ר יהודה משום ר”ע (in middle of the medium size lines) until “אמר רבי אבהו”
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=9&daf=16&format=pdf
When exactly is the ניסוך המים done?
See רש”י משנה דף מב: “ניסוך המים
See רמב״ם הלכות תמידין פרק י הלכה ו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&st=&pgnum=177
See גמרא תענית דף ב: “איבעיא להו (two dots)
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=10&daf=2b&format=pdf
See יורשלמי סוכה פרק ד הלכה ה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=47651&st=&pgnum=75
And הערות from Hagaon Harav Elyashiv
Learn the גמרא דף כג: “ר”א אומר until ר’ יוסי אומר (next set of two dots)
Question:
What’s the difference between the opinions of ר”א, ר’ יוסי & רבי עקיבא
Learn תוס’ “והתניא
Learn תוס’ “איכא
See ריטב”א “איכא for more elaboration of the explanation of Tosfos.
Question:
What’s the difference between the explanation of Rashi and Tosfos?
Continue learning the גמרא דף כג: “ר’ יוסי אומר (two dots) until “קרפף” (ten lines from bottom of the Amud)
Learn תוס’ דף כג. “ובלבד
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Review the second half of the first Mishna of the Perek starting from דף יח. “ר’ יהודה אומר
Learn the גמרא דף כג. “רבי עקיבא אומר (bottom of the Amud) until דף כג: “ר”א אומר (two dots)
Clarify the difference between the opinion of ר’ יהודה בן בבא, רבי עקיבא & תנא קמא
Learn תוס’ “רבי עקיבא
Question:
What’s the difference between the explanation of Rashi and Tosfos?
Continue learning the גמרא דף כג: “ר”א אומר until ר’ יוסי אומר (next set of two dots)
Question:
What’s the difference between the opinions of ר”א, ר’ יוסי & רבי עקיבא
Learn תוס’ “והתניא
Learn תוס’ “איכא
Question:
What’s the difference between the explanation of Rashi and Tosfos?
Review the first two lines of the גמרא דף מח: “מנא הני מילי
Review תוספת דף מח: “מנא הני מילי
Questions:
Tosfos explained the chidush from the pasuk ושאבתם מים בששון that only water from a מעיין – spring is kosher for Nisuch Hamayim.
See “רשב”ם בבא בתרא דף עט. “מים
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=23&daf=79&format=pdf
And “תוספת בבא בתרא דף ס: “מים
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=23&daf=60b&format=pdf
Major Question:
If only water from a מעיין is acceptable for ניסוך המים how was water from the kiyor able to be used as a backup?
Learn גמרא זבחים דף כב: “דאמר ר’ יוחנן (third line from top of the Amud) until the two dots. Which brings a machlokes whether the water of the kiyor needed to be from a מעיין.
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=29&daf=22b&format=pdf
According to Rashi is water from a מעיין required?
Learn ערוך לנר
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=189
Learn רמב״ם הלכות תמידין פרק י הלכה ו-ז for the Rambam interpretation of the Mishna
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&st=&pgnum=177
Learn the גמרא דף מח: “הנהו תרי מיני until the two dots.
Questions:
Why does the Gemara bring a seemingly foolish argument of two heretics?
Why does ר’ אבהו answer the heretic with the same interpretation of the pasuk that the heretic named Simcha said above?
See מהרש”א on the Gemara
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=506
What is the difference between שמחה and ששון?
See פירוש גר”א מגלת אסתר פרק ח פסוק טז
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=39741&st=&pgnum=38
And אבן עזרא
In the shemoneh esreh of Yom tov we say מועדים לשמחה חגים וזמנים לששון. Why are מועדים referenced with שמחה and the חגים וזמנים with ששון?
See the commentary of שיח יצחק in the סידור הגר”א on page 725 of the Yom tov shemoneh esrei
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21127&st=&pgnum=370
See the מלבים ישעיה פרק לה פסוק י
What is the source for ניסוך המים?
Learn גמרא תענית דף ב: “ר’ יהודה בן בתירא אומר (six lines from bottom of the Amud) until the two dots in middle of דף ג
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=10&daf=2b&format=pdf
What is the connection between what day we start saying משיב הרוח to the day of ניסוך המים?
See משנה ראש השנה דף טז and גמרא “תניא א”ר יהודה משום ר”ע (in middle of the medium size lines) until “אמר רבי אבהו”
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=9&daf=16&format=pdf
Major Question:
How is it permitted to use the skin to make a water canteen when the halacha is the body of a dead person is אסור בהנאה?
See שולחן ערוך יורה דעה סימן שמ”ט סע’ א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9732&st=&pgnum=587
See ערוך לנר
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=187
See שו”ת שבות יעקב חלק א ס’ פ”ט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1519&st=&pgnum=42
And הערות from Hagaon Harav Elyashiv
What is the source for ניסוך המים?
Learn גמרא תענית דף ב: “ר’ יהודה בן בתירא אומר (six lines from bottom of the Amud) until the two dots in middle of דף ג
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=10&daf=2b&format=pdf
What is the connection between what day we start saying משיב הרוח to the day of ניסוך המים?
See משנה ראש השנה דף טז and גמרא “תניא א”ר יהודה משום ר”ע (in middle of the medium size lines) until “אמר רבי אבהו”
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=9&daf=16&format=pdf
When exactly is the ניסוך המים done?
See רש”י משנה דף מב: “ניסוך המים
See רמב״ם הלכות תמידין פרק י הלכה ו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&st=&pgnum=177
See גמרא תענית דף ב: “איבעיא להו (two dots)
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=10&daf=2b&format=pdf
See יורשלמי סוכה פרק ד הלכה ה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=47651&st=&pgnum=75
And הערות from Hagaon Harav Elyashiv
Very quickly review the משנה דף כג
Learn the גמרא from after the Mishna until the bottom of the Amud
Review the second half of the Mishna beginning of the Perek starting from דף יח. “ר’ יהודה אומר
Continue learn the גמרא דף כג. “רבי עקיבא אומר until the two dots דף כג עמוד ב
Clarify the difference between the opinion of ר’ יהודה בן בבא, רבי עקיבא & תנא קמא
Learn תוס’ “רבי עקיבא
Question:
What’s the difference between the explanation of Rashi and Tosfos?
Review the entire משנה דף כג
Learn the גמרא from after the Mishna until the two dots דף כג עמוד ב
Questions:
Does ר’ יהודה בן בבא require a שומירה or the like for an area smaller than 70 square Amos?
According to ר’ יהודה בן בבא how can one carry in an enclosed area larger than 70 square Amos?
Learn תוס’ “ובלבד
Quickly review משנה דף כב עמוד ב and learn גמרא דף כג until the next Mishna
Learn תוס’ דף כג. “והא
Learn תוס’ דף כג. “לא
Learn the entire משנה דף כג
Learn תוס’ “ובלבד
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Learn משנה דף כב עמוד ב and learn גמרא דף כג until the next Mishna
Learn תוס’ דף כג. “והא
Learn תוס’ דף כג. “לא
Conclusion of Sugya: אתי רבים ומבטלי מחיצות
What is the conclusion of the Gemara?
According to רבי יהודה does a privately owned street or courtyard become a Reshus Harabim through אתי רבים ומבטלי מחיצות?
According to רבי יהודה when do we not say אתי רבים ומבטלי מחיצות?
Is it limited to Eretz Yisrael?
Learn “תוס’ “יהושע
Is it possible to have a Reshus Harabim inside of an area which is entirely enclosed by walls?
Learn חכם צבי ס’ ל”ז who was asked is England considered a Reshus Hayachid
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=829&pgnum=38
See עבודת הקודש לרשב”א שער ג ס’ א
See ח’ רמב”ן דף נט starting from “וי”ל עוד שלא until “זהו רה”ר גמורה ”
Learn משנה דף כב עמוד ב and learn גמרא דף כג until the Mishna
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Review the גמרא דף כב: “איתיביה (seven lines before wide lines) until the Mishna
Questions:
How does the Gemara answer יהושע אוהב ישראל … מסרה ליחיד explain why the שבילי בית גלגול are not a Reshus Harabim?
Learn ריטב”א “כל היכא
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37287&st=&pgnum=36
Learn ח’ ר”ן “יהושע (see attachment)
Learn ח’ רמב”ן דף נט. מש’ “עיר של יחיד starting from “עכשיו אני חוזר לפ’ המשנה.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14135&st=&pgnum=107
How is שבילי בית גלגול different than a תל המתלקט?
Learn “תוס’ “ואיזהו
What is the conclusion of the Gemara?
According to רבי יהודה does a privately owned street or courtyard become a Reshus Harabim through אתי רבים ומבטלי מחיצות?
According to רבי יהודה when do we not say אתי רבים ומבטלי מחיצות?
Is it limited to Eretz Yisrael?
Learn “תוס’ “יהושע
Is it possible to have a Reshus Harabim inside of an area which is entirely enclosed by walls?
Learn חכם צבי ס’ ל”ז who was asked is England considered a Reshus Hayachid
Review the גמרא דף מח following the משנה “סוכת שבעה כיצד until the next Mishna.
The Gemara presents three options to remove the appearance of בל תוסיף to permit one to sit inside a Sukkah on Shemini Atzeres/Simchas Torah (the day after Sukkos)
1. Remove four tefachim of schach
2. Light a lantern
3. Bring food utensils inside the Sukkah.
Questions:
How does removing four tefachim of schach remove the issue of נראה כבעל תוסיף?
See “רש”י “פוחת
And “תוספת “פוחת who asks a question on Rashi
Learn the ר”ן who answers Tosfos question on Rashi.
How does lighting a lantern remove the issue of נראה כבעל תוסיף
Learn “גמרא דף כט. “אמר רבא (third line) until the two dots with Rashi and תוספת “מנא” & “ואמרי to explain why one is not permitted to bring these utensils inside the Sukkah
Note the difference between Rashi and Tosfos.
Major Question on Tosfos:
How can we tell a person to light a lantern inside a minimum size Sukkah when it is a fire hazard?
Learn “ר”ן סוף פרק שני “שרגא
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=608
And רא”ש פרק שני ס’ יט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=477
How does bringing certain utensils inside the Sukkah remove the issue of נראה כבעל תוסיף?
In Conclusion:
Does one need to disqualify the Sukkah to remove the issue of נראה כבעל תוסיף or is it suffice to do something that indicates that he is not sitting inside the Sukkah to perform the mitzvah of Sukkah?
Learn ריף on גמרא דף מח
Learn ר”ן, בעל המאור, מלחמת ה’ , השגת הראב”ד
Question:
Why does the Mishna entertain the idea that one should take down his Sukkah specifically on the last day of Sukkos?
Learn רמב״ם הלכות סוכה פרק ו הלכה יד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=282
Learn the שו”ת תשובות והנהגות חלק ב ס’ ד”ש (attached) from Hagaon Harav Moshe Shternbach shlita for a novel new explanation in the chidush of our mishna from Rav Chaim Soloveitchik.
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