Category: Evening Chabura

Conclusion of Sugya: “גמרא דף לה: “ושל דמאי

We discussed the machlokes between Rashi and Tosfos why דמאי is considered יש בה היתר אכילה
whether we need the logic of one being able to be מפקיר all his possessions in order to use an Esrog of דמאי.
According to “תוספת “דאי – because can feed the דמאי to poor people and soldiers stationed in their town.
According to Rashi (based on רש”י דף לד: “האי יש בה) because one has the ability to eat דמאי by making all his possessions ownerless.

Learn “מאירי לד: “ואם נטל כשר who discusses what is considered יש בה היתר אכילה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=57966&st=&pgnum=91

Major Question:
This seems to be in contradiction to – רש”י דף לד: “בירושלים who says an Esrog of Maaser Sheini outside Yerushalayim is pasul.
According to Rashi’s logic it should be kosher as person has the ability to bring the Maasar Sheini to Yerushalayim and eat it there or redeem the Maasar Sheini on to money?
Learn “תוספת עיורבין דף ל: “ולפרוש for an answer (starting from ויש לומר – last few lines of Tosfos)

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=3&daf=30b&format=pdf

Why is an Esrog which was gifted to an individual with the condition that it must be returned considered to be kosher? It does not have a היתר אכילה since the person if he consumes the esrog is unable to return the esrog in the original condition to the owner? See last few lines of פרי מגדים אורח חיים סימן תרנ”ח אשל אברהם ס”ק יב

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41247&st=&pgnum=350

Learn the גמרא דף לה: עלתה חזזית” until נוטלה פטמתו

Questions:

Why does a חזזית disqualify an Esrog?

Is the reason to disqualify the Esrog different if the חזזית is on majority of the Esrog, minority but multiple spots, or on the חוטם?

See “רש”י דף לג: “מנומר (first line)

Question:

Is this pasul the first day or all the days of Sukkos?

Learn “תוספת “עלתה

Questions:

Why does the Mishna need to repeat when חזזית is kosher and when it is Pasul. It should be self understood if חזזית on majority of the area of the Esrog disqualifies than on minority of the Esrog is Kosher?

Learn ר”ן דף יז. דפי הריף “עלתה חזזית for an explanation

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=616

Will multiple חזזית disqualify an Esrog because it is מנומר / spotted if they are the same color of the Esrog?

Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “אבל בשנים (in middle of the wide lines) who quotes the opinion of the ראב”ד

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=617

Quickly review the “גמרא דף לה: “ושל תרומה טהורה until ושל דמאי

Questions:
Can the peel of a fruit be Teruma? (See ט”ז ס או”ח ס’ תרמ”ח ס”ק ו)
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=386

What bracha does one make on a peel of a fruit? See שולחן ערוך או”ח ס’ ר”ב סעיף ו and משנה ברורה ס”ק ל”ט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=216
And Sefer הערות on Gemara Sukkah

Is an Esrog of תרומה טהורה kosher for a non-kohen?
Carefully learn רש”י דף לה: “הרי יש בה היתר אכילה”
According to Rashi what is classified as יש בה היתר אכילה?
Learn “מאירי לד: “ואם נטל כשר
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=57966&st=&pgnum=91

The rule is in order to be הוכשר לקבל טומאה is that the person wants the moisture on this fruit or vegetable. In our case why do we assume the person wants the Esrog to become wet?
Additionally, why would the person want the Esrog to become wet as this would make it able to become tameh and disqualify this Esrog?

Continue learning the גמרא “ושל דמאי until the next set of two dots.
Question:
Does one actually need to be מפקיר all his possessions in order to use an Esrog of דמאי?
Learn “תוספת “דאי
Note: How Tosfos explains why an Esrog of דמאי is Kosher.
Contrast Tosfos with רש”י דף לה: “הרי יש בה היתר אכילה” And how Rashi explains why an Esrog of תרומה טהורה is kosher for a non-kohen
Learn “מאירי לד: “ואם נטל כשר who discusses what is considered יש בה היתר אכילה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=57966&st=&pgnum=91

Contrast the argument of Tosfos and Rashi to their position regarding an Esrog of Maaser Sheini outside Yerushalayim. – רש”י דף לד: “בירושלים and last few lines of תוספת דף לה. “לפי

Why is an Esrog which was gifted to an individual with the condition that it must be returned kosher as it does not have a היתר אכילה? See last few lines of פרי מגדים אורח חיים סימן תרנ”ח אשל אברהם ס”ק יב
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41247&st=&pgnum=350

Learn גמרא דף לא: “נקטם ראשו (two dots – second to last line on the Amud) until ר’ יהודה אומר (the two dots in middle of the Amud)

Questions:
What’s the difference between נסדק & נחלקה?
Why should נחלקה התיומת (split) be similar to ניטלה התיומת (removed)?

Sugya: נקטם ראשו
What is considered ראשו for the disqualification of נקטם ראשו?
Learn תוס’ דף כט: “נקטם which asks question on ריב”ל what is the chidush that ניטלה התיומת is pasul when נקטם ראשו even if a little bit of chopped off is pasul? And gives three answers.
Clarify the two definitions of of נקטם ראשו of Tosfos.

Learn ראש ס’ ב which quotes the ראבד who has a third definition of נקטם ראשו
See the טור ס’ תרמ”ה סעיף ו who quote three opinions.
Question:
How much has to be chopped off to disqualify the Lulav?
Learn the ר”ן דף יד. דפי הריף “נקטם ראשו – starting from the words ולפיכך יש להחמיר (four lines from the bottom of the page)

Tosfos says נקטם ראשו is the two middle leaves. The ran says it’s the middle leaf.
Does Tosfos and the Ran agree?
See last paragraph of בית יוסף ס’ תרמ”ה סעיף ו “ודע שהר”ן – and ביאור הלכה סימן תרמה,ו “רוב העלין