Category: Evening Chabura

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Wednesday night shiur Adar 26, Daf 38b (03/26/25)

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Learn משנה דף לח: “תנור (middle of the Amud) and the Gemara until the next Mishna 

Questions:

Why is it prohibited to leave food on a תנור that is fueled with קש & גבבא when they don’t produce coal to have a concern of שמא יחתה? 

May one leave food on a תנור if they are גרוף וקטום the items burning inside a תנור?

Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה ה & ו

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=17&hilite=

Where does the Rambam know that גרוף וקטום will not help for a תנור ?

Learn כסף משנה הלכה ה

Why does קטום not help for a תנור – placing the ash on the coals indicates that he is not interested in increasing the heat?

Learn ערוך השולחן אורח חיים ס’ רנ”ג סע’ ה’ & ו

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=67694&st=&pgnum=43

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=67694&st=&pgnum=44

Is the Mishna in accordance with the opinion of חנניא or the רבנן?

Learn תוס’ “תנור

What would the halacha be for a תנור if the Mishna is להשהות תנן?

Learn תוס’ ישנם on side of Tosfos 

Why does תוס’ ישנם say that a קדרה חייתא should be prohibited to leave on a תנור according to the Rabanan?

Learn גליון הש”ס on side of Tosfos which asks two major questions on Tosfos 

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Monday night shiur Adar 18, Daf 38a-38b (03/17/25)

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Learn the גמרא דף לח. “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud) until דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud)

Questions:

What is the chidush of רב ששת and רב אושיע that Beis Hillel permits חזרה even on Shabbos? 

How does Rashi address this? (Breakdown the three components of Rashi)

Learn תוס’ דף לח: “אפילו

Learn תוס’ דף לו: “וב”ה אומרים אף מחזירין

How does Tosfos address this? 

Learn תוס’ דף לח: “פינה

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Monday night shiur Teves 21, Daf 37a (01/20/25)

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Review the גמרא דף לז. “איבעיא להו until “ת”ש (fifth wide line) until 

גמרא דף לח. “איבעיא להו (twelve lines from bottom of the Amud) 
Question: Is the question of the Gemara whether סמיכה is permitted by שהייה or by חזרה? Learn תוס’ “מהו
If the question of the Gemara is in regards to חזרה what is the proof from the braissa which only discusses שהייה?
Learn רי”ף which brings a proof from this question that the halacha is like רבנןLearn רשב”א for a different explanation of the question of the Gemara 

Clarify the three explanations of the Gemara question 

1. Tosfos 

2. Rif

3. Rashba 

Review the first half of תוס’ “אא”ב and continue learning the rest of Tosfos 

Questions:

What’s the point of argument between Rashi and Tosfos?

What compelled Rashi to explain differently than the simple explanation offered by Tosfos? 

How can Rashi answer the questions of Tosfos? 

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Wednesday night shiur Teves 16, Daf 37a (01/15/25)

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What is the conclusion of the Gemara in regards to when בתוכו is prohibited?

Learn the גמרא דף לז. “ת”ש from the second ת”ש until “איבעיא להו” (first wide line)

Learn the גמרא דף לז. “איבעיא להו until “ת”ש (fifth wide line)

Question: Is the question whether סמיכה is permitted in to שהייה or חזרה? 

Learn תוס’ “מהו

If the question of the Gemara is in regards to חזרה what is the proof from the braissa which only discusses שהייה?

Learn רי”ף which brings a proof from this question the halacha is like רבנן

Learn רשב”א for a different explanation of the question of the Gemara 

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Monday night shiur Teves 14, Daf 37a (01/13/25)

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Very quickly review גמרא דף לז. “ת”ש until second ת”ש 

Review the first half of תוס’ “אא”ב

Question:

What’s the point of argument between Rashi and Tosfos?

What is the conclusion of the Gemara in regards to when בתוכו is prohibited?

Continue learning the גמרא דף לז. “ת”ש from the second ת”ש until “איבעיא להו” (first wide line) 

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Chanukah Sugya – Monday night, Rosh Chodesh, 6th Night of Chanukah, Kislev 30 (12/30/24)

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Sugya: Guests – Menorah – אכסנאי 

Review גמרא שבת דף כג. “אמר רב ששת אכסנאי חייב בנר חנוכה until the two dots. 

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=23&format=pdf

What is the chidush of Rav Sheshes regarding a guest?

Learn ר”ן 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=569

Must one light the Menorah exclusively in their own home?

Learn גמרא שבת דף כג. “אמר רב חייא בר אשי until מאי ממעט

Learn רש”י “הרואה

Why is the person not lighting his own menorah on the boat?

Learn תוס’ סוכה דף מו. “הרואה 

Learn רמב”ם ה’ חנוכה פרק ד הלכה יא 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=376

Learn פני יהושע שבת דף כא: “תנו רבנן 

If a person is traveling on a train, plane, car overnight does he light Menorah?

Learn שו”ת מהרש”ם חלק ד ס’ קמ”ו 

How does chipping in to the oil and wicks of the host help fulfill his obligation to light a Menorah? 

Can two roommates chip in together and light one Menorah? 

When does a person away from home have to light a menorah even when his wife is lighting the menorah at their own home?

Learn בית יוסף ס’ תרע”ז, ג (ב) “עוד לשם

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Chanukah Sugya Wednesday night shiur 1st night Chanukah, Kislev 25 (12/25/24)

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Sugya: Guests – Menorah – אכסנאי 

Learn גמרא שבת דף כג. “אמר רב ששת אכסנאי חייב בנר חנוכה until the two dots. 

What is the obligation of a guest in regards to lighting a Menorah?

How does chipping in to the oil and wicks of the host help fulfill his obligation to light a Menorah? 

Can two roommates chip in together and light one Menorah? 

Learn ריף and ר”ן 

Learn רמב”ם ה’ חנוכה פרק ד הלכה יא 

Learn טור & שולחן ערוך ס’ תרע”ז 

Learn ביאור הלכה “עמו

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Monday night shiur Kislev 9, Daf 36b (12/16/24)

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Quickly review “תוס’ דף לו: “לא

Questions:

Rashi sources the איסור שהייה to הטמנה בדבר המוסיף הבל which the Gemara explains is prohibited because we are considered שמא יחתה.  Tosfos argues on Rashi and says the prohibition is because שמא יחתה. How is Tosfos’ explanation different from Rashi?

According to Tosfos how does raking out the coals or placing ashes on the גפת ועצים permit one to place cooked food on the Kirah?

Learn “ר”ן “או עד שיתן האפר

List two differences between Rashi and Tosfos/ Ran in regards to הטמנה and two possible differences in regards to שהייה

According to Tosfos why is הטמנה more stringent than שהייה?

Learn “תוס’ מז: “במה

Learn ב”ח ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק י for a new explanation in Rashi 

Bring a proof from Rashi דף לד: “גזירה against this explanation 

Review the גמרא דף לו עמוד ב until דף לז. “ת”ש” (Eleven lines from top of the Amud)

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Wednesday night shiur Kislev 11, Daf 36b (12/11/24)

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Review the גמרא דף לו עמוד ב until דף לז. “ת”ש” (Eleven lines from top of the Amud)

Question:

According to Tosfos opinion that הטמנה and שהייה are two separate rabbinak prohibitions. Why is הטמנה more stringent than שהייה?

Learn “תוס’ מז: “במה

Review the גמרא דף לו עמוד ב until דף לז. “ת”ש” (Eleven lines from top of the Amud)

Questions:

Is חזרה only an issue on Shabbos or even on Friday?

Learn תוס’ “וב”ה until “וקשה לרשב”א

Why does the Gemara entertain the Mishna is missing words in order to establish the Mishna like חנניה?

Learn תוס’ דף לזה. “לעולם

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Monday night shiur Kislev 9, Daf 36b (12/09/24)

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Quickly review “תוס’ דף לו: “לא

Questions:

Rashi sources the איסור שהייה to הטמנה בדבר המוסיף הבל which the Gemara explains is prohibited because we are considered שמא יחתה.  Tosfos argues on Rashi and says the prohibition is because שמא יחתה. How is Tosfos’ explanation different from Rashi?

According to Tosfos how does raking out the coals or placing ashes on the גפת ועצים permit one to place cooked food on the Kirah?

Learn “ר”ן “או עד שיתן האפר

List two differences between Rashi and Tosfos/ Ran in regards to הטמנה and two possible differences in regards to שהייה

According to Tosfos why is הטמנה more stringent than שהייה?

Learn “תוס’ מז: “במה

Learn ב”ח ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק י for a new explanation in Rashi 

Bring a proof from Rashi דף לד: “גזירה against this explanation 

Review the גמרא דף לו עמוד ב until דף לז. “ת”ש” (Eleven lines from top of the Amud)

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Wednesday night shiur Kislev 4, Daf 36b (12/04/24)

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There are two prohibitions listed in the Mishna – שהייה & חזרה

We are going to first focus on the איסור שהייה

Questions: 

What is the reason for the איסור שהייה?

See רש”י לו: “עד שיגרוף

Why does Rashi source the reason for איסור שהייה to a Gemara of איסור הטמנה (insulating)?

Learn the גמרא דף לד עמוד ב which explains the two different types of  הטמנה and why each are prohibited. 

According to Rashi how does גרוף או קטום remove the fact of מוסיף הבל?

Learn תוס’ דף לו: “לא

Clarify the two questions of Tosfos on Rashi

Major Question:

Rashi sources the איסור שהייה to הטמנה בדבר המוסיף הבל which the Gemara explains is prohibited because we are considered שמא יחתה.  Tosfos argues on Rashi and says the prohibition is because שמא יחתה. How is Tosfos’ explanation different from Rashi?

Why does raking out the coals or placing ashes on the גפת ועצים permit one to place cooked food on the Kirah?

Learn “ר”ן “או עד שיתן האפר

Note the differences between the questions Tosfos asks in Rashi and the the questions the Ran asks on Rashi.

What is the difference between Rashi and the Ran?

Learn בית יוסף & ב”ח ס’ רנ”ג סע’ א (I will show you exact piece)

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Monday night shiur Kislev 2, Daf 36b (12/02/24)

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Quickly review the משנה דף לו עמוד ב

There are two prohibitions listed in the Mishna – שהייה & חזרה

We are going to first focus on the איסור שהייה

Review the גמרא דף לו עמוד ב until דף לז. “ת”ש” (eleven lines from top of the Amud)

Question: 

What is the reason for the איסור שהייה?

See רש”י לו: “עד שיגרוף

Learn תוס’ דף לו: “לא

Clarify the two questions of Tosfos on Rashi

Questions:

According to Rashi is הטמנה בדבר המוסיף הבל permitted when the fire is גרוף או קטום?

Major Question:

How is Tosfos’ explanation different from Rashi?

Why does raking out the coals or placing ashes on the גפת ועצים permit one to place cooked food on the Kirah?

Learn “ר”ן “או עד שיתן האפר

What is the difference between Rashi and the Ran?

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek – Wednesday night, Cheshvan 20 Daf 56b (11/20/24)

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Review and continue learning the גמרא דף נו:   “אע”פ (seven lines before end of mesachta) until end of the mesachta 

Questions:

Why did Bilga kick the Mizbeach?

Why did Bilga refer to the Mizbeach as a wolf? 

Why does the Gemara end with the benefit of living next to a tzadik when the family the Gemara discusses were not tzadikim? 

Why did the neighbors of Bilga gain when normally the neighbors of the wicked lose out?

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek – Monday night, Cheshvan 18 Daf 56a-56b (11/18/24)

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Learn the גמרא דף נו: “והני תרתי until אע”פ (seven lines before end of mesachta)

Question: 

Why does the Gemara question fining the father for the actions of his daughter. The pasuk says a naarah murasah that has zenus is stoned by the door of her father’s house?

What’s the halacha implication to a kohen whose daughter commits adultery or adopts a different religion?  

See מהרש”א and רש”ש

See שולחן ערוך או”ח ס’ קכח סע’ מא and מגן אברהם ס”ק סב

Questions:

Why did Bilga kick the Mizbeach?

Why did Bilga refer to the Mizbeach as a wolf? 

Why does the Gemara end with the benefit of living next to a tzadik when the family the Gemara discusses were not tzadikim? 

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek – Monday night, Cheshvan 11 Daf 56a-56b (11/11/24)

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Review the משנה דף נו and the גמרא דף נו until the two dots on דף נו עמוד ב

Questions:

What is the reason that the Mishmar that is leaving gets an equal portion of lechem panim when yom tov and Shabbos follow each other?

See Rashi

Learn רמב”ם ה’ תמידין פרק ד הלכה יב who gives a different explanation than Rashi.  

See ה’ ראב”ד who asks on the Rambam and the ה’ רדב”ז and כסף משנה who explains the Rambam 

Which Mishmar receives two challos from the lechem hapanim when there is one day in between yom tov and shabbos? Why?

See Rashi

Learn רמב”ם ה’ תמידין פרק ד הלכה יג who explains the Gemara entirely different than Rashi 

See ה’ ראב”ד who asks on the Rambam and the ה’ רדב”ז and כסף משנה who explains the Rambam

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek – Monday night, Cheshvan 4 Daf 56a-56b (11/04/24)

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Continue learning the גמרא דף נו עמוד ב from the two dots until the Mishna 

Learn the משנה דף נו and the גמרא דף נו until the two dots on דף נו עמוד ב

Question:

What is the reason that the Mishmar that is leaving gets an equal portion of lechem panim when yom tov and Shabbos follow each other?

See Rashi

Learn רמב”ם ה’ תמידין פרק ד הלכה יב who gives a different explanation than Rashi.  

See ה’ ראב”ד who asks on the Rambam and the ה’ רדב”ז and כסף משנה who explains the Rambam 

Which Mishmar receives two challos from the lechem hapanim when there is one day in between yom tov and shabbos? Why?

See Rashi

Learn רמב”ם ה’ תמידין פרק ד הלכה יג who explains the Gemara entirely different than Rashi 

See ה’ ראב”ד who asks on the Rambam and the ה’ רדב”ז and כסף משנה who explains the Rambam

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek – Monday night, Tishrei 27, Daf 56a-56b (10/28/24)

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Review גמרא דף נו. “בעצרת אומר לו הילך (two dots – seven lines from top of the Amud) until the two dots before the Mishna 

Questions:

When the gemara concludes the order is leishev and then shehechiyanu why does the gemara not simply say the halacha is like Rav? 

See תוס’ מו. “נכנס

Learn קרבן נתנאל אות צ

Learn תוס’ נו. “עד

Learn תוס’ נו. “והלכתא

Learn  רא”ש פרק ד סימן ד who brings rishinom who rule that on the second night of Sukkos (in chutz laaretz) we switch the order and first day shehechiyanu and then make bracha leshev basukkah

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=483

Clarify the argument why the order should or should not be switched

Learn גמרא דף נו. “בעצרת אומר לו הילך (two dots – seven lines from top of the Amud) until the two dots before the Mishna 

Learn the משנה דף נו and the גמרא דף נו until the two dots on דף נו עמוד ב

Question:

What is the reason that the Mishmar that is leaving gets an equal portion of lechem panim when yom tov and Shabbos follow each other?

See Rashi

Learn רמב”ם ה’ תמידין פרק ד הלכה יב who gives a different explanation than Rashi.  

See ה’ ראב”ד who aska on the Rambam and the ה’ רדב”ז and כסף משנה who explains the Rambam 

Which Mishmar receives two challos from the lechem hapanim when there is one day in between yom tov and shabbos? Why?

See Rashi

Learn רמב”ם ה’ תמידין פרק ד הלכה יג who explains the Gemara entirely different than Rashi 

See ה’ ראב”ד who aska on the Rambam and the ה’ רדב”ז and כסף משנה who explains the Rambam

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek – Monday night, Tishrei 13, Daf 56a (10/14/24)

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Learn גמרא דף נו. “בעצרת אומר לו הילך (two dots – seven lines from top of the Amud) until the two dots before the Mishna 

Learn  רא”ש פרק ד סימן ד who brings rishinom who rule that on the second night of Sukkos (in chutz laaretz) we switch the order and first day shechiyanu and then make bracha leishev basukkah

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=483

Clarify the argument why the order should or should not be switched

Questions:

If someone recited shechiyanu when he constructed his sukkah what should the order of the brachos be when he sits in his sukkah on the first night of sukkos? 

When the gemara concludes the order is leishev and then shechiyanu why does the gemara not simply say the halacha is like Rav? 

See תוס’ מו. “נכנס

Learn קרבן נתנאל אות צ

How do we conclude lhalacha?

Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרמ”ג and ס’ תרס”א  with the משנה ברורה  

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek – Monday night, Elul 21, Daf 55a (09/23/24)

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Learn גמרא דף נה. “מאי תלמודא (seven lines from top of the Amud) until the end of the Amud

See how Rashi explains the setup for the krias hatorah on Chol Hamoed Sukkos. 

Learn תוספת דף נה. “איתקן who points out an inconsistency according to Rashi. And asks a question on Rashi from the order of Krias Hatorah on Chanukah. 

Tosfos presents another way to structure the Krias Hatorah on Chol Hamoed. 

Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרס”ג סע’ א to see how the Shulchan Aruch concludes. 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=269

Questions from last week:

Is the principle of תדיר קדים just in regards to what comes first in an order of procedure or even in regards to selecting one out of two which would be performed?

Learn תוס’ “ואמאי

Learn תוספת שבת דף כג: “הדר 

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=23b&format=pdf

which discusses what Haftarah is read on Shabbos Chanukah when it coincides with Rosh Chodesh. Tosfos quotes the Rashba that the Haftarah of Chanukah is read as פרסומי ניסא is greater then reason of תדיר as is the conclusion of Rava in the gemara Shabbos. However for the krias hatorah the reading of the parsha of Rosh Chodesh comes first before krias hatorah of Chanukah as both kraih’s will be read and it’s just a question of which one is read first then we say תדיר קודם.

Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרפד סע’ ג 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=425

And מגן אברהם ס”ק ב which asks a question on our Tosfos based on the conclusion of Tosfos in Shabbos 

See אשל אברהם ס”ק ב for an explanation of the question of the מגן אברהם 

Learn ערוך לנר דף נד: על תוס

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=213

and פסקי ריד על גמרא

“פסקי רי”ד מסכת סוכה דף נד עמוד ב

מיתיבי ראש חודש שחל להיות בשבת שיר של ראש חודש דוחה שבת, ואם איתה לימ’ דראש חודש ולימ’ דשבת, אמ’ רב פפא מאי דוחה לקדם, ואמאי תדיר ושאינו תדיר תדיר (ל)קדם, אמ’ ר’ יוחנ’ לידע שהוקבע ראש חודש בזמנו. מיכן מוכיח שאם אמ’ שיר אח’ ראש חודש דוחה שבת, ואף על גב דשבת תדירה, זה שבא לפרקי’ דוחה אותו. ומיכן יש להוכיח להביא ראייה דראש [חדש] טבת שחל להיות בשבת ההפטרה דחנוכה אמרי’ שהיא באה לפרקים ולא דראש חודש שהיא תדירה. 

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek – Wednesday night, Elul 16, Daf 54b-55a (09/18/24)

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Learn the  גמרא דף נד: ” מיתיבי (second wide line of the Amud) until “דף נה. מיתיבי (third line) 

Question: 

Is the principle of תדיר קדים just in regards to what comes first in an order of procedure or even in regards to selecting one out of two which would be performed?

Learn תוס’ “ואמאי

Learn תוספת שבת דף כג: “הדר 

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=23b&format=pdf

which discusses what Haftarah is read on Shabbos Chanukah when it coincides with Rosh Chodesh. Tosfos quotes the Rashba that the Haftarah of Chanukah is read as פרסומי ניסא is greater then reason of תדיר as is the conclusion of Rava in the gemara Shabbos. However for the krias hatorah the reading of the parsha of Rosh Chodesh comes first before krias hatorah of Chanukah as both kraih’s will be read and it’s just a question of which one is read first then we say תדיר קודם.

Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרפד סע’ ג 

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And מגן אברהם ס”ק ב which asks a question on our Tosfos based on the conclusion of Tosfos in Shabbos 

See אשל אברהם ס”ק ב for an explanation of the question of the מגן אברהם 

Learn ערוך לנר דף נד: על תוס

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and פסקי ריד על גמרא

“פסקי רי”ד מסכת סוכה דף נד עמוד במיתיבי ראש חודש שחל להיות בשבת שיר של ראש חודש דוחה שבת, ואם איתה לימ’ דראש חודש ולימ’ דשבת, אמ’ רב פפא מאי דוחה לקדם, ואמאי תדיר ושאינו תדיר תדיר (ל)קדם, אמ’ ר’ יוחנ’ לידע שהוקבע ראש חודש בזמנו. מיכן מוכיח שאם אמ’ שיר אח’ ראש חודש דוחה שבת, ואף על גב דשבת תדירה, זה שבא לפרקי’ דוחה אותו. ומיכן יש להוכיח להביא ראייה דראש [חדש] טבת שחל להיות בשבת ההפטרה דחנוכה אמרי’ שהיא באה לפרקים ולא דראש חודש שהיא תדירה. 

Continue learning the גמרא דף נה until the end of the Amud

Learn תוספת דף מה. “איתקן

And שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרסג סע’ א

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fifth Perek – Monday night, Elul 14, Daf 54a-54b (09/16/24)

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Learn the “גמרא דף נד: “ואין מוסיפים על מ”ח (two dots) until “מיתיבי” (second wide line)

Questions:

Was water drawn for Nisuch Hamayim on Yom tov?

See רש”י דף נד: “והיכי דמי  

And רש”י דף נד. “לפי שאין תוקעים למילוי המים בשבת (six lines from bottom of the Amud)

Learn תוס’ דף נד: כגון 

Learn מהרש”א דף נד: “בפרש”י which asks a contradiction between the above two Rashi’s? 

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And תוס’ דף נ: “ורבנן (starting from “ומיהו קשה”) 

Learn ערוך לנר דף נ: על תוס’ “ורבנן דברי המתחיל “ואגב דגזור בהו

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Learn רמב״ם הלכות כלי המקדש פרק ז הלכה ו

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Question:

The Rambam says there were no tekios on Shabbos. This seems unnecessary to state as there was no filling of the water on Shabbos so no reason for tekios?

Learn ערוך לנר דף נד: על רש”י “והיכי דמי

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