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Topic: The mitzvah of Daled Minim in Beis Hamikdash and the rest of the world.

Learn the דף מג. “דאיתיה בגבולין (fifteen lines from top of the Amud) until “וסוכה גופא מנלן” (thirteen lines from bottom of the Amud)

Question on “רש”י “אלא ראשון:

Why should the fact that the Mitzvah of Daled Minim on the second – seventh day of Sukkos is only in the Beis Hamikdash be a reason that the Rabanan should allow a gezeira to not perform the Mitzvah?

Learn תוספת “הא

Chakirah: Is the mitzvah of Daled Minim all seven days of Sukkos in the Beis Hamikdash – an extension of the Mitzvah of Daled Minim of the first day obligation everywhere or an independent mitzvah? Think of a נפקא מינה between the two options 

Learn בעל המאור “אי הכי (first one on fourth Perek)

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=624

Note: how the בעל המאור explains different than תוספת “הא and avoids the major question we asked on Tosfos 

How could Tosfos suggest limiting the Daled Minim for the seven days of Sukkos which coincide with Shabbos to one’s home?  The only mitzvah for the rest of Sukkos is in the Beis Hamikdash?  

Learn עמק ברכה ה’ לולב אות א “וסוכה מג for an answer

Bring a proof to the chakirah 

1. from the Gemara 

2. from “רש”י “אלא ראשון 

See מנחת חינוך מצוה שכד ס”ק א

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14092&st=&pgnum=164

See עמק ברכה ה’ לולב אות א 

Question: Are the disqualifications of the Daled Minim in the Beis Hamikdash all seven days the same as those of the first day of Sukkos?

There is an argument between Tosfos and the Ramban whether the requirement of לכם – to own the Daled Minim – applies for the Daled Minim for the entire Sukkos in the Beis Hamikdash 

See תוספת דף כט: “בעינן

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=29b&format=pdf

See ריטב”א beginning of the third Perek

https://www.sefaria.org/Ritva_on_Sukkah.29b?lang=bi

See ביכורי יעקב ס’ תרנ”ח ס”ק א for a lengthy discussion how one can fulfill mitzvah from the Torah of Daled Minim all seven days of Sukkos

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49325&st=&pgnum=68

Very quickly review the “גמרא דף מב: “אמר רבה” until דף מג. “דאיתיה בגבולין (fifteen lines from top of the Amud) 

Topic: גזירה דרבה שלא ליטול לולב בשבת

Quickly review “תוספת “אינהו who asks 

Why is there a difference in the gezeira between Lulav and Shofar?

What’s the explanation for the incongruity of the gezeira on the Mitzvah of shofar during the time of Beis Hamikdash to the gezeira after the churban?

In Conclusion:

Why is the Mitzvah of Daled Minim not performed on the first day of Sukkos which coincides with Shabbos? 

Is it because gezeira to prevent one from carrying on Shabbos, or because of the uncertainty whether the first day of Sukkos is the fifteenth or fourteenth of Tishrei? 

See ריף מגילה דף ד: “גרסינן במסכת סוכה

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14306&st=&pgnum=609

Learn ר”ן on our Gemara

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=624

Bring a proof from the ר”ן if he agrees with the רי”ף 

Learn the דף מג. “דאיתיה בגבולין (fifteen lines from top of the Amud) until “וסוכה גופא מנלן” (thirteen lines from bottom of the Amud)

Topic: The mitzvah of Daled Minim in Beis Hamikdash and the rest of the world.

Question:

Is the mitzvah of Daled Minim all seven days of Sukkos in the Beis Hamikdash an extension of the Mitzvah of Daled Minim of the first day obligation everywhere?

or an independent mitzvah?

Practical difference – נפקא מינה – if one performed the mitzvah of Daled Minim on the first day of Sukkos in his home and later that day went to the Beis Hamikdash would he have to take the Daled Minim again 

Learn בעל המאור “אי הכי (first one on fourth Perek)

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=624

Note: how the בעל המאור explains different than תוספת “הא and avoids the major question we asked on Tosfos 

How could Tosfos suggest limiting the Daled Minim for the seven days of Sukkos which coincide with Shabbos to one’s home?  The only mitzvah for the rest of Sukkos is in the Beis Hamikdash?  See עמק ברכה ה’ לולב אות א “וסוכה מג for an answer

Bring a proof to the chakirah 

1. from the Gemara we learnt today

2. from “רש”י “אלא ראשון (on gemara earlier on the Amud)

See מנחת חינוך מצוה שכד ס”ק א

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14092&st=&pgnum=164

See עמק ברכה ה’ לולב אות א 

Very quickly review the “גמרא דף מב: “אמר רבה” until דף מג. “דאיתיה בגבולין (fifteen lines from top of the Amud) 

Topic: גזירה דרבה שלא ליטול לולב בשבת

Quickly review “תוספת “אינהו who asks 

Why is there a difference in the gezeira between Lulav and Shofar?

What’s the explanation for the incongruity of the gezeira on the Mitzvah of shofar during the time of Beis Hamikdash to the gezeira after the churban?

Question:

Why didn’t the Rabanan make a gezeira not to perform a Bris Milah on Shabbos to prevent someone from carrying the milah knife to consult with an expert? 

Why didn’t the Rabanan make a gezeira not to blow shofar at the end of Yom Kippur?

Learn תוספת מגילה דף ד: “ויעבירנו (second Tosfos)

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=11&daf=4b&format=pdf

Learn “תוספת “הא

Question on Tosfos:

Tosfos asks that the mitzvah of Daled Minim should be allowed inside ones home whichever day of Sukkos coincides with Shabbos. The gemara is discussing the time period of the beis hamikdash which only had a Mitzvah in the Beis Hamikdash. How could Tosfos suugest to perform the mitzvah of Daled Minim in one’s home on any of the seven days?

Learn משנה ראש השנה פרק ג, משנה א   

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=9&daf=29b&format=pdf

Note: Which locations and time periods was blowing shofar on Shabbos Rosh Hashanah permitted. 

Learn “תוספת “אינהו who asks 

Why is there a difference in the gezeira between Lulav and Shofar?

What’s the explanation for the incongruity of the gezeira on the Mitzvah of shofar during the time of Beis Hamikdash to the gezeira after the churban?

In Conclusion:

Why is the Mitzvah of Daled Minim not performed on the first day of Sukkos which coincides with Shabbos? 

Is it because gezeira to prevent one from carrying on Shabbos, or because of the uncertainty whether the first day of Sukkos is the fifteenth or fourteenth of Tishrei? 

See ריף מגילה דף ד: “גרסינן במסכת סוכה

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14306&st=&pgnum=609

Learn ר”ן on our Gemara

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=624

Bring a proof from the ר”ן if he agrees with the רי”ף