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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos – Daf 12B: (פלכו קלטו) Gemara (11/04/2013)

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Makkos: Monday night shiur (פלכו קלטו)‎

Quickly review : גמרא יב  after the משנה until next  משנה
Learn תוס’ פלכו
Learn  ” תוס ” זבחים קי”ז. “עיר

Questions:

If a רוצח living in the עיר מקלט kills accidentally again, the דין is he has to leave that neighborhood.

  • Is the רוצח A) confined to the neighborhood he runs to or B) free to roam anywhere in the עיר מקלט just forbidden to return to the neighborhood in which he committed the murder?  Bring a proof.
  • If the רוצח does not leave the neighborhood can the גואל הדם kill the רוצח in the עיר מקלט?
  • Is the דין of פלכו קלטו dealing with a first time offender or a second time offender?
  • The גמרא says מכאן אמרו, “from here”.  What is the “here” referring to? ריטבא
Learn next משנה and תוס יג. מעלים
Question:
  • What is the חידוש of the first דין of the משנה?
  • Why does תוס say שכר means taxes and not the simple meaning of the word “rent”?

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos – Daf 12B: Mishna “Harag” and Gemara “Tanu Rabannan”

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Learn  “משנה יב: “הרג and גמרא until next  משנה
Learn תוס’ פלכו

Questions:
  • How is תוס understanding the דין of גולה מפלך לפלך, and the דין of פלכו קלטו?
  • Does רש”י agree with תוס explanation?
  • The גמרא says מכאן אמרו, “from here”.  What is the “here” referring to? ריטבא

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Maseches Makkos – Daf 12B: Conclusion of Sugya of Halach Achar HaNof (10/28/2013)

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סוגיא: הלך אחר הנוף
Review the  גמרא יב עמוד ב from רב אשי  until the משנה
Learn תוס’ רב אשי who explains רב אשי different then רש”י
Point to ponder:
  • Why does the רמב”ם ה’ רוצח ח,י”א  explain the משנה is referring to someone standing underneath the branches as opposed to תוס and Ritva who explained the person is standing on top of the branches?
Question:
  • What is the difference between how רבה and  רב אשי explain the מחלוקת between the רבנן and ר”י?

Learn next “משנה “הרג and גמרא until משנה “כיוצא

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Masechet Makkot – Daf 12B: Gemara Amar Rabba (10/23/2013)

Review the  גמרא יב עמוד ב until רב אשי continue the next line of גמרא until the משנה

Questions;

  • If the  רוצח is standing outside the עיר מקלט, is the גואל הדם permitted to stand inside the עיר מקלט and shoot an arrow outside the עיר מקלט to kill the רוצח? Bring a proof from רש”י אמר רבא. Learn ריטבא
  • What is the difference between how רבה and  רב אשי explain the מחלוקת between the רבנן and ר”י?
Learn תוס’ רב אשי who explains רב אשי different then רש”י

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Masechet Makkot – Daf 12A To 12B: Gemara ViRami Maaser AMaaser (10/21/2013)

Quickly review  גמרא  יב עמוד א from second to bottom line of the Amud until second line on עמוד ב

Learn the  גמרא יב עמוד ב until רב אשי (one line before the משנה )

Questions;
  • Why does the גמרא assume that רבי יהודה only said his דין as a חומרא? Learn תוס’ אימור
  • According to רבה does מעשר שני have the same parameters as ערי מקלט in regards to when one is considered to be inside the city of ירושלים?
  • According to רבה what is the מחלוקת between the רבנן and ר”י?
  • If the  רוצח is standing outside the עיר מקלט, is the גואל הדם permitted to stand inside the עיר מקלט and shoot an arrow outside the עיר מקלט to kill the רוצח? Bring a proof from רש”י אמר רבא

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Masechet Makkot – Daf 12A To 12B: Mishna Ilan And Gemara ViRaminhee (10/16/2013)

Quickly review  משנה  יב עמוד א & גמרא  until second line on עמוד ב

Questions;
  • What is the הוה אמינא of the גמרא to compare the דין by עיר מקלט to מעשר שני?
  • Why do we not consider the trunk/roots of the tree which is the source of its nutrients the main part of the tree as the גמרא גיטין concludes in regards to the law of מעשר?  Learn ריטב”א

Continue the גמרא until רב אשי (one line before the משנה )

Questions;
  • Why does the גמרא assume that רבי יהודה only said his דין as a חומרא? See תוס’ אימור
  • According to רבה does מעשר שני have the same parameters as ערי מקלט in regards to when one is considered to be inside the city of ירושלים?
  • According to רבה what is the מחלוקת between the רבנן and ר”י?

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Masechet Makkot – Daf 12A: Gemara Tani Chada And Mishna Ilan (10/14/2013)

Quickly review  גמרא יב עמוד א from תני חדא (six lines before the Mishna) until the Mishna

Point to ponder;
  • The יו”ד ס’ ר”מ סע’ כ”ד ,רמ”א  rules that a grandson is obligated in honoring the grandfather.  How does this opinion explain our גמרא which clearly seems to conclude to the contrary?

Learn משנה & גמרא until second line on עמוד ב

Questions;
  • Is the person standing under the branches of the tree or in the branches of the tree? Learn  תוס “אילן
  • What is the הוה אמינא of the גמרא to compare the דין by עיר מקלט to מעשר שני? Learn ריטבא

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim Masechet Makkot – Daf 12A: Gemara Amar Rav Yehuda Amar Rav (09/16/2013)

Review גמרא י”ב. “נגמר דינו (six lines from the top of the Amud) until אמר ר”ל

Learn רמב”ם ה’ רוצח פרק ה הלכה י”ב-י”ד
Continue the גמרא until רוצח שיצא    (twelve lines into the wide lines)
Major Questions;
  • The רמב”ם says the מזבח grants asylum to someone who is trying to escape the death penalty of the king .  So why was יואב mistaken for holding on to the מזבח ? Learn (כסף משנה, מאירי, ערוך לנר )
  • How could the Angel of Rome make such blatant mistakes?
  • Why does the גמרא not offer as an answer that the רוצח was living in the מגרש with just a pillow and blanket and no house?