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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 16A to 16B: Sugya of Bitlo ViLo Bitlo Kimo ViLo Kimo (04/03/2014)

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Review the .גמרא טז  from ותו ליכא ” (five lines from bottom the עמוד) until the top of  “טז:  ” והא איכא

Point to ponder:

  • Bring a proof from the גמרא that there is no מצוה of והשיב את הגזילה when the object is no longer in existence. (חידושי ר’ חיים ה’ גזילה ואבידה ט,ל”א third paragraph)

Learn the :גמרא טז until the first set of two dots.

Question:
  • Who made the נדר that the Rebbe would not be able to teach the children anymore ?  (רמב”ם שבועות ו,ט)

Gemara / Makkos / Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim's shiurim

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 16A: Amar Rav Simi MiChuzna’a… (03/31/2014)

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Review the .גמרא טז  from “אלא אמר רב שימי מנהרדעאה ” (middle of the wide lines) until the top of  “טז:  ” והא איכא

Points to ponder:
  • How can husband be a שליח for the wife to receive her קידושין to another man but we have a rule אין שליח לדבר עבירה ?
  • Learn “תוס’ “כגון. How does רש”י answer the question of תוס?
  • Bring a proof from the גמרא that there is no מצוה of והשיב את הגזילה when the object is no longer in existence.

Learn the :גמרא טז: until the first set of two dots.

Gemara / Makkos / Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim's shiurim

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 16A: Sugya of Kum Lai BiDiraba Mineai (03/26/2014)

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Learn the .גמרא טז  from “אלא אמר רב שימי מנהרדעא ” (middle of the wide lines) until the top of  “טז:  ” והא איכא

Question on previous גמרא :

  • In order to apply the דין of קם ליה בדרבה מיניה both violations have to be violated at the same time :רש”י טו says the violation of the לאו is immediately and the nullification of the עשה is akin to nullification of a תנאי. So how is the culpability of death penalty from murder coming at the same time as the culpability for מלקות which comes at the time of violation of the לאו ? Learn ערוך לנר “בדרבה מיניה for an answer
Major Question:
  • How do we reconcile this to .רש”י טו who says according to the opinion of  of ביטלו ולא ביטלו the לאו is only completed upon the nullification of the עשה ?
Points to ponder:
  • The  גליון הש”ס  presents two more scenarios where the husband would not חייב מיתה for killing his ex-wife. Why can’t these cases be a viable option of culpability for lashes according to the opinion of bitlo vlo bitlo.
  • How can husband be a שליח for the wife to receive her קידושין to another man but we have a rule אין שליח לדבר עבירה ?

Learn “תוס’ “כגון

Bring a proof from the גמרא that there is no מצוה of והשיב את הגזילה when the object is no longer in existence.

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 16A: Tnan Husum… (03/24/2014)

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Review the .גמרא טז  from “תנן” (last of the narrow lines) until  “אמר רב שימי מחוזנאה” (middle of the wide lines)

Major Question:
  • In order to apply the דין of קם ליה בדרבה מיניה both violations have to be violated at the same time. We explained according to רש”י טו:  understanding of ביטלו ולא ביטלו the לאו is completed upon violation of the לאו so how is it possible to say קם ליה בדרבה מיניה ? Learn ריטבא “אי who asks this question & ערוך לנר “בדרבה מיניה for an answer
Learn “תוס’ “אי who presents a scenario where the husband would not חייב מיתה for killing his ex-wife.
Learn  גליון הש”ס who presents two more scenarios where the husband would not חייב מיתה for killing his ex-wife.

Continue the גמרא until “ותו ליכא” (five lines from the bottom)