Tagged: Siman
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Monday Night Gemara Shiur Bava Metzia 27B to 28A Ella Ha DiTnan (04/30/2012)
Learn Gemara 27b from “Ella ha DiTnan” (5 lines from bottom) until 28a “Ella Amar Rava” Question; What changed from the question to the answer regarding returning a bundle of shtaros? Learn Gemara 28a “Ella Amar Rava” until Mishna. Question; Is the proof from bundle of Shtaros a conclusive proof that Simanim are acceptable according to the Torah or not? Rosh Siman 13, Ritva 28a “Ella”
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Wednesday Night Gemara Shiur Bava Metzia 27B Amar Rava (04/25/2012).
Learn Gemara 27b from “Amar Rava” (middle of the wide lines) until 28a “Ella Amar Rava”. Basic Questions 1) A. Why did the gemara initially think that the interest of the finder has any relevance? B. After the Gemara’s response that it is in the best interest of the owner of the item, does that imply that the interest of the finder is no longer relevant? Ritva “Amar Rava” 2) How could the Gemara say the Takana Drabanan applies by Siman Muvhak when the Gemara 18b said clearly that Siman Muvhak is an acceptable Siman from the Torah? Tosfos “Vana” 3) Why would the loser of an item agree to have it returned based on Simanim yet would not want this to be so by a lost Shtar (document)? Ritva “Nicha”
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Monday Night Gemara Shiur Bava Metzia 27B Ta Shema (04/16/2012)
Monday Night Gemara Shiur Bava Metzia 27B Ta Shema
Learn 1) Gemara 27b 3rd Ta Shma “Vhaya” until 1st wide line “Leima Ktanai” 2) Tosfos “Dorshuhu” 3) Major Question; If we are worried an object was lent and therefore do not accept Simanim there should never be a case that one could return an item since we should be concerned even if the claimant can give proper identification that the item was once his but was subsequently sold or gifted? Ritva 27a “Keilav” 4) Question; Why does the Gemara not bring a proof from the Mishna on 20a and 24b that we are not worried items were lent? See end of Tosfos 20b “Matza”, Rosh end of First Perek Siman 50
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Wednesday Night Gemara Shiur Bava Metzia 27B Chaishinan (4/18/2012)
Wednesday Night Gemara Shiur Bava Metzia 27B Chaishinan
1) Major Question; If we are worried an object was lent and therefore do not accept Simanim there should never be a case that one could return an item since we should be concerned even if the claimant can give proper identification that the item was once his but was subsequently sold or gifted? Ritva 27a “Keilav” 2) Question; Why does the Gemara not bring a proof from the Mishna on 20a and 24b that we are not worried items were lent? See end of Tosfos 20b “Matza”, Rosh end of First Perek Siman 50. 3) Learn Gemara 27b 3rd 1st wide line “Leima Ktanai” until “Amar Rava” 4) Fundemental Question (Chakira); What is the reason Simanim would not be accepted according to the Torah? Is it because we are concerned A. the person is lying, or B. there is another item with exactly the same Siman therefore the Siman is not conclusive proof to whom is the real owner? Bring a proof
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Monday Night Gemara Shiur Bava Metzia 27B Laima KiTanaee
1) Learn Gemara 27b 3rd 1st wide line “Leima Ktanai” until “Amar Rava” 2) Fundamental Question (Chakira); What is the reason Simanim would not be accepted according to the Torah? Is it because we are concerned A. the person is lying, or B. there is another item with exactly the same Siman therefore the Siman is not conclusive proof to whom is the real owner? Bring a proof. 3) Continue the Gemara from “Amar Rava” until bottom of the Amud. 4) Tosfos “Viana”
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim’s Monday Night Gemara Shiur (12/19/2011)
Important question; According to Rav Chanina if one finds three coins of equal size stacked one on top of each other he may keep them because maybe they fell in this fashion. How could this be? We rule by Safek Hinuach one is not permitted to keep the item, how do we know conclusively that someone did not intentionally stacked the coins this way?
Learn 1) Gemara 25a “Mai Machriz” (5 lines before bottom of page) until “Bai R’ Yirmiya” 2) In conclusion is identifying how the coins were placed an acceptable Siman? (Learn Chidushei Ran, Ritva) 3) If one identifies the place where the coins were found an acceptable Siman? (Learn Tosfos “Vhu”) Question; Why is the number 2 not an acceptable Siman of Minyan?
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim’s Monday Night Gemara Shiur (11/21/2011).
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Learn 1) Gem’ 24b “(2 dots) Rav Chanina… until Mishna” 2) Tosfos “Lifnim Mshuras Hadin” Get clear the levels Tosfos delineates. Question; Is Lifnam Nshuras Hadin optional or required? [Rosh siman 7 (in middle), Rambam Hilchos Gezaila Vavaida 11,7] 3) What do we conclude in Halacha, do we Pasken like RabanShimon ben Elazar by majority gentiles, jews? Bring proof
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim’s Wednesday Night Gemara Shiur (11/16/2011)
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Learn 1) Gem’ 24b “Rav Yehuda hava… until 2 dots” 2) Tosfos”Lbasar” Why does Tosfos disagree on Rashi’s explanation of “the 12 months”? Major Question; How could Tosfos disagree with the concept that after a certain period of time people are Myaaish, the Gemara 23b discussed person who found tar inside a winepress and concluded since there were weeds growing over it the owner for sure had Yiush? 3) Tosfos “Lifnim Mshuras Hadin”
Rabbi Shlomo Singer’s Sunday gemara Gemara Shiur 11/13/2011
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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim’s Wednesday Night Gemara Shiur (10/26/2011)
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Learn 1) Gemara 24a “Veilu Hein Keilim .. until Vchen Hoya ..” Question Rashi 20b “Shtarei Machriz” explains that in regards to Minyan being a Siman, the number 2 is not an acceptable siman so how could Rashi and Tosfos here say 2 is considered a siman? (Ritva for answer) 2) Tosfos 24a “Aval” 3) Gemara “Vchen Hoya … until Ibaiyu Lahu” Question: Is the reasoning “The owner had Yiush” also explaining Zuto Shel Yam [Machlokes; Rosh Siman 6, & Ritva “Mipnei”] 4) Start Gemara “Ibaiyu Lahu … “
Rabbi Shlomo Singer’s Tuesday Night Gemara Shiur (10/25/2011)
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Rabbi Shlomo Singer’s Sunday Morning Gemara Shiur (10/23/2011)
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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim’s Wednesday Night Gemara Shiur 10/05/2011
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Learn Nimukei Yosef and Ritva on Gemara 23b “Hahu Gavra ..” (2 different answers). Also learn Hagaas Ashri (on the side of the Rosh Siman 5). Learn Gemara 23Bb from 2 dots “Rabi Shimon ben Elazar .. until Gemara 24a “Mar Zutra”. Major question; If a Tzurba Marabanan can claim any lost item even without a Siman so how can the Mishna 21a list 10 cases that the finder can keep the Aveida since it has no Siman??? (learn Ritva, 2 answers)
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim’s Monday Night Gemara Shiur (10/03/2011)
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Learn Gemara 23b from “Bai Minei Rav Bibi” until the next 2 dots. What’s the difference between the 2 versions of Rav Mari? (See Rashi “Ikka Diamri”, & Shita Mekubetzes “Vikasuv Rashi ..”
Gemara “Hahu Gavra ..” Major question: Why does the finder of the pitch keep it and not the owner of the wine press, don’t we say Chatzar Shel Adam Koneh Lo Shelo Midaato? Learn Nimukei Yosef and Ritva (2 different answers). Also learn Hagaas Ashri (on the side of the Rosh Siman 5)
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim’s Monday Night Gemara Shiur (09/26/2011)
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Review quickly Tosfos 23b “Brashum”, & “Abaye”, (Extra. Learn Shita Mekubetzes who gives an answer for Rashi) What is the Siman of Rashum according to A) Rashi B) Tosfos? Learn Gemara 23b from “Bai Minei Rav Bibi” until the next 2 dots. Major question: Why does the finder of the pitch keep it and not the owner of the wine press, don’t we say Chatzar Shel Adam Koneh Lo Shelo Midaato? Learn Nimukei Yosef and Ritva (2 different answers).