Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah – Lulav Hagazul (Evening Chabura): Monday night shiur, Cheshvan 14, Daf 37b (11/07/22)

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Very quickly review the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה (eight lines from top of the Amud) until “ואמר רבה הדס במחובר”

Is it permitted to smell haddasim which are being used as schach?

Learn רן דף יח. דפי הריף “הדס של מצוה (middle of the wide lines)

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=618&hilite=

See גמרא דף י: מנימין עבדיה דרב אשי (fourth line from top of the Amud) until אתמר

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=10b&format=pdf

Questions:

If the Drasha prohibits usage of the schach then why didn’t Rav Ashi raise an objection to using the schach as a clothes line?

See ט”ז ס’ תרל”ח ס”ק ג starting from ועל כן נראה פשוט

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=369

See שולחן ערוך ס’ תרל”ח last two lines of סעיף ב “אם סכך בהדס and משנה ברורה ס”ק כה & כו and שער הציון אות ל

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=208

We discussed an argument between the מרדכי and the ש”ך
The (מרדכי (פסחים פרק שני אות תקמז derives from the prohibition to smell the Haddasim that it is only forbidden to smell איסורי הנאה whose primary function are to produce a nice fragrance. But if scent is not the primary function than it is permitted to smell them as we apply the rule דייט לאו מילתא
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14315&st=&pgnum=421

The ש”ך יו”ד ס’ ק”ח ס”ק כז disagrees and says that our Gemara implies the opposite. Only in regards to muktza is it permitted to smell the item if it’s primary function is not for smell. But for איסורי הנאה it is prohibited to derive pleasure from their fragrance regardless of their primary or secondary purpose.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9145&st=&pgnum=513

Questions:
What is the point of disagreement between the מרדכי and the ש”ך?
The מרדכי – Special drasha that the Daled minim are consecrated to Hashem.
The ש”ך – They are designated for a mitzvah.

See “רש”י “אסור להריח
Questions:
Why does Rashi list both the reason of חל שם שמים – איסור הנאה and מוקצה?

If the source for the prohibition is the drasha which makes the Haddasim into איסורי הנאה than why is it permitted to smell an Esrog?
See שפת אמת דף לז. “אמר רבה הדס של מצוה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14522&st=&pgnum=198

Continue learning the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס במחובר until the Mishna

Questions:
Did someone who mistakenly held the Lulav in the left hand and Esrog in the right hand fulfill the Mitzvah of Daled Minim?
Does he need to pick the Daled minim up again in the correct hand?
See the גמרא מב. “אמר אביי כשהפכו and רש”י an רבינו חננאל “א”ר אמי

Learn the מאירי
And מגן אברהם ס’ תרנ”א ס”ק ט
How do we rule lhalacha?
See שולחן ערוך ס’ תרנ”א סעיף ג and משנה ברורה ס”ק יט