Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah – Lulav Hagazul (Evening Chabura): Wednesday night shiur, Tamuz 8, Daf 35b (07/06/22)

Sugya: פיטום

Learn the “גמרא דף לה: “נטל פטמתו until “נקלף”

Points to Clarify:
What part of the Esrog is the פיטום?
What part of the Esrog is the בוכנא?
What part of the Esrog is the עוקץ?

Is רבי יצחק coming to explain what is a פיטום or to add another disqualifying issue?
Learn “רש”י “תניא רבי יצחק who presents two explanations for the case of נטלה פטמתו
Learn “תוספת “נטלה

Question:
What’s a halachik נפקא מינה of these two explanations?

Learn the רא”ש ס’ טז – who brings two additional explanations from the ר”ת and the ר”ח and various נפקא מינה.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=479&hilite=

Question:
Why is the Esrog pasul when the פיטום falls off?
Why is the Esrog kosher when the עוקץ falls off?
Learn קרבן נתנאל אות ק

What’s the status of the Esrog if the crown on top of the Pitum falls off?
See the ריף דף יז: דפי הריף (top line) and the רן “תאני ר’ יצחק (sixth line from bottom of the Amud)
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=617

Write a summary of the five opinions (2 in Rashi & 2 in Tosfos/Rosh & 1 in the Rif) as to what part of the Esrog is the פיטום, the עוקץ and what will disqualify the Esrog if it falls off.
List the halachik נפקא מינה of these opinions.

Question:
What is the central point that these opinions are arguing about?
Learn חידושי הגרי”ז סוכה

Learn רמ”א ס’ תרמ”ט סעיף ה “וחסר כשר ..וניטל פטמתו .. and משנה ברורה ס”ק לו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=246

Questions:
Is an Esrog that grows without a Pitum kosher?
What if the Pitum falls off while the Esrog is still attached to the tree?

How do we conclude lhalacha regarding the falling off of the פיטום and עוקץ?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף ז-ח and the Mishna berura
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=236