Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Wednesday night shiur, Av 2 Daf 44b (07/19/23)

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The Gemara concluded with the answer כאן במקדש כאן בגבולין

Major Question:

The Gemara on מד says that the taking of Aravos on Hoshana Rabbah is זכר למקדש.

But the gemara now says it was a either a יסוד and מנהג נביאים?

See רבינו חננאל (on side of the Gemara) for a different explanation than Rashi

Learn רמב״ם הלכות לולב פרק ז הלכה כא-כב and מגיד משנה

Major Question:

The Rambam says the mitzvah of Aravah we take on Hoshana Rabbah is both זכר למקדש and מנהג נביאים.

How could it be both?

What compelled the Rambam to give this explanation?

The Rambam seems to offer an entirely new reason than the גמרא מד as to why the mitzvah of Aravah is only one day זכר למקדש?

Learn ערוך לנר for an explanation for the Rambam

Can we offer a different explanation for the Rambam based on the conclusion of the Gemara of כאן במקדש כאן בגבולין?

According to אבא שאול the mitzvah of Aravah in the Beis Hamikdash is learnt from the words ערבי נחל

Learn תוספת דף לד. “ואחת who asks where in the pasuk is it indicated that it’s limited to Beis Hamikdash?

See תוספת ראש

And ערוך לנר

Learn “גמרא דף מד: “א”ר אמי ערבה צריכה שיעור (top line) until “אמר אייבו”

See מהרש”א on the גירסא of the Gemara

Learn תוספת “ואינה

Learn תוספת “שלשה

Question:

Is Tosfos giving a different explanation than Rashi? See מהרש”א and מהר”ם

Questions:

What is the point of argument between רב נחמן and רב ששת in regards to how many Aravos one needs to take?

Learn ר”ן

How do we conclude lhalacha in regards to how many Aravos one needs to take, amount of leaves, size?

Learn רא”ש end of סימן א

Learn טור אורח חיים ס’ תרס”ד סעיף ד (just the second half) & סעיף ה & ו

Learn שולחן ערוך with the משנה ברורה