Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Wednesday night shiur, Kislev 24, Daf 46b (12/06/23)

Very quickly review גמרא דף מו: “מיד תינוקות (two dots, six lines from top of the Amud) until “א”ר זירא” 

We discussed how the Ran answered the following questions 

Questions:

1. Why are Daled Minim לא חזי בין השמשות?

Ran – one would not shake the Daled Minim during Bein Hashmashos between the seventh and eighth day of Sukkos as starting from day two they are a Mitzvah Drabanan and the rule is ספק דרבנן לקולא

2. Why according to ר’ יוחנן are Daled Minim  Muktzah the entire seventh day?

Ran – The mind frame of a person is to designate them for the entire seventh day as the mitzvah can be performed any time of the day. 

3. Does the Muktzah status of the Daled Minim of the seventh day extend into Bein Hashmashos? Why or why not? 

Ran – no as one would not take the Daled Minim during Bein Hashmashos as explained above. 

(See ריטב”א דף מו: א”ר יוחנן (first explanation) for a more elaborate explanation of the gemara according to the reasoning of the Ran.  https://www.sefaria.org/Ritva_on_Sukkah.46b.1?vhe=Chiddushei_HaRashba,_Sheva_Shitot,_Warsaw,_1883.&lang=bi

Learn תוספת דף י: “עד until “ומהאי טעמא” and skip to “וכל הני לא דמי until “ומאן דאסר who gives an entirely different approach to the Gemara different than the Ran.

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=10b&format=pdf

How does Tosfos answer the three questions above?

On what points does the Ran argue with Tosfos? 

What is a נפקא מינה between Tosfos and the Ran? 

Continue learning the Gemara from “ולוי” until “א”ר זירא לא ליקני “

Question:

Why does לוי hold that the Daled Minim are Muktzah the entire eighth day as well? 

See רש”י דף מו: “אתרוג אפילו בשמיני

Learn תוספת דף י: “עד starting from “ומאן דאסר (twelve lines before the wide lines of Tosfos) until ומיהו (last word before the wide lines)

Learn ריטב”א דף מו: “לוי who gives three possible explanations 

https://www.sefaria.org/Ritva_on_Sukkah.46b.1?vhe=Chiddushei_HaRashba,_Sheva_Shitot,_Warsaw,_1883.&lang=bi