Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום רביעי, Kislev 20, Yahrzeit of Rebbetzin Singer a”h, Daf 42b – Sugya – Solid hot foods & Ladles (12/10/25)

Making tea on Shabbos 

Based on the halachos of Kli Sheini & Kli Shlishi 

What is the best permissible method to make hot tea on Shabbos?

See משנה ברורה ס”ק לט for a lengthy discussion about this. 

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Ladle 

When using a ladle to spoon out from a Kli Rishon; is the bowl that the soup is being poured into considered a Kli Sheini or a Kli Shlishi?

See ט”ז אורח חיים ס’ שי”ח ס”ק י”ט

Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק מה who brings that it is considered a Kli Rishon. 

However see the leniency the Mishna Berura says regarding dipping challah inside the bowl of soup. 

See קובץ הלכות הלכות שבת פרק כה סע’ י 

Solid hot food

Learn מגן אברהם ס’ שי”ח ס”ק מ”ה

See ש”ך יורה דעה ס’ קה ס”ק ח 

Who says that a solid hot food item does not receive the leniency when placed in a Kli Sheini or Shlishi. See the reason why?

Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק מה “in middle ”דיש פוסקים שסוברים ….

Based on the above may one place a pickle on top of a hot piece of kugel?

See אורחת שבת חלק א פרק א סע’ סא & הערה קמו- קמז

Thermos & Styrofoam cup

Does hot water poured from a Kil Rishon into a thermos have the status of a Kli Sheini as the thermos was not the utensil the water was cooked inside of or does it have the status of a Kli Rishon as the thermos retains the heat unlike a regular Kli Sheini?

See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א הערה קכב

See קובץ הלכות הלכות שבת פרק כה סע’ ט 

Cooking after cooking

Quickly review the משנה דף לח עמוד ב which clearly says that once an item was cooked it may be reheated inside a Kli Rishon. 

Does this apply to liquid that was cooked and cooled down?

Learn רש'”י דף לד. “משחשכה 

And רא”ש פרק כ ס’ יא

Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ שי”ח סע’ ד & טו

How does the Mechaber rule?

How does the Rema rule? 

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