Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום חמישי, Kislev 21, Daf 42b – Sugya – Solid hot foods & Ladles (12/11/25)
Ladle
When using a ladle to spoon out from a Kli Rishon; is the bowl that the soup is being poured into considered a Kli Sheini or a Kli Shlishi?
See ט”ז אורח חיים ס’ שי”ח ס”ק י”ט
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Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק פז who brings that it is considered a Kli Rishon.
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However see the leniency the Mishna Berura ס”ק מה says regarding dipping challah inside the bowl of soup.
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See קובץ הלכות הלכות שבת פרק כה סע’ י
Solid hot food
Learn מגן אברהם ס’ שי”ח ס”ק מ”ה
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See ש”ך יורה דעה ס’ קה ס”ק ח
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https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9145&st=&pgnum=498
Who says that a solid hot food item does not receive the leniency when placed in a Kli Sheini or Shlishi. See the reason why?
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק מה “in middle ”דיש פוסקים שסוברים ….
Based on the above may one place a pickle on top of a hot piece of kugel?
See אורחת שבת חלק א פרק א סע’ סא & הערה קמו- קמז
Thermos & Styrofoam cup
Does hot water poured from a Kil Rishon into a thermos have the status of a Kli Sheini as the thermos was not the utensil the water was cooked inside of or does it have the status of a Kli Rishon as the thermos retains the heat unlike a regular Kli Sheini?
See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א הערה קכב
See קובץ הלכות הלכות שבת פרק כה סע’ ט
Cooking after cooking
Quickly review the משנה דף לח עמוד ב which clearly says that once an item was cooked it may be reheated inside a Kli Rishon.
Does this apply to liquid that was cooked and cooled down?
Learn רש'”י דף לד. “משחשכה
And רא”ש פרק כ ס’ יא
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ שי”ח סע’ ד & טו
How does the Mechaber rule?
How does the Rema rule?
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