Category: Sukkah

Very quickly review “תוס’ דף נב. “וכיון

Clarify the two explanations as to what is considered an אמן יתומה

List a leniency and a stringency of each of the explanations 

Questions:

According to the second explanation of Tosfos, is it permitted to respond Amen to a bracha that one is obligated to recite when he did not hear the bracha but knows exactly which bracha had just been said?  

See רבינו יונה ברכות מז 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14308&st=&pgnum=534&hilite=

According to the first explanation of Tosfos, why is the issue of responding an אמן יתומה just in regards to a bracha one is obligated to recite? 

See שולחן ערוך או”ח ס’ קס”ז סע’ ט”ז    

and שולחן ערוך או”ח ס’ רי”ג סע’ ב ומשנה ברורה ס”ק י”ז

and שולחן ערוך או”ח ס’ רי”ט סע’ ד-ה

See ח’ ר’ אריה לייב מאלין חלק א ס’ ה who gives an explaination based on some of the above sources 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=51220&st=&pgnum=24

How do we conclude lhalacha?

Learn שולחן ערוך או”ח ס’ קכ”ד סע’ ח    

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60386&st=&pgnum=303

Questions:

What is the difference between the ruling of the Mechaber and the Rema?

According to the Mechaber, If someone already davened silent shemoneh esreh can he respond Amen to חזרת הש”ץ without knowing what bracha had just been said?

Learn the משנה ברורה 

Questions:

Why is the punishment so severe for saying an אמן יתומה?

Continue learning the גמרא דף נא: “במוצאי יו”ט (two dots seven lines from the bottom of the Amud) until דף נב. “האי הספידא 

Question: 

How does the fact that the Torah wants to keep men and women separated override the pasuk with the instruction not to alter the Beis Hamikdash from the blueprint of Dovid Hamelech?

Quickly review the :גמרא דף נא just the lines discussing thr waving of the flag in the shul to respond Amen 

Learn גמרא ברכות דף מז. “ת”ר אין עונין … אמן יתומה (two dots in the middle of the Amud) with Rashi and Tosfos  

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=1&daf=47&format=pdf

Learn “תוס’ דף נב. “וכיון

Clarify the two answers of Tosfos as to why the response of Amen based on the signal of the flag was not considered an אמן יתומה

Question:

Does the opinion of Rav Tzadok Hakohen that Tosfos quotes agree with the first explanation of tosfos or the second answer of Tosfos? 

See רבינו יונה ברכות מז for his explanation on אמן יתומה

Questions:

• Why is the punishment so severe for saying an אמן יתומה?
• According to the first answer of Tosfos, why is the issue of responding an אמן יתומה just in regards to a bracha one is obligated to recite? See ח’ ר’ אריה לייב מאלין חלק א ס’ ה
• According to the first answer of Tosfos, If you daven shemoneh esreh by yourself can you respond Amen to חזרת הש”ץ without knowing what bracha had just been said?
• According to the second answer of Tosfos is it permitted to respond Amen to a bracha that one is obligated to recite when he did not hear the bracha but knows exactly which bracha had just been said?  
  • List the נפקא מינה between the two answers of Tosfos. 

Learn טור אורח חיים ס’ קכ”ד סע’ ח

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14265&st=&pgnum=204

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ קכ”ד סע’ ח    

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60386&st=&pgnum=303

What is the difference between the ruling of the Mechaber and the Rema?

Review the second half of the משנה לד עמוד ב (starting from עלתה חזזית על רובו)

Learn “גמרא דף לה: “נקלף (two dots – three lines from bottom of the Amud) until the top of .דף לו

Learn “תוספת דף לו. “הא
Tosfos brings the opinion of רבינו חננאל who learns the Gemara distinction between if the entire peel of the Esrog or only a portion of the peel is removed the opposite of Rashi.

Questions:
According to רבינו חננאל
what is the point of comparison of siman traifa of skinning an animal to a peeled Esrog when the reason for siman terifa is dependent on whether the animal can recover from such a malady which is clearly not the case by Esrog?
See פני יהושע
See שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף יח & יט & שער הציון אות סד for a possible different explanation.

Is נקלף disqualified for the entire Sukkos or just the first day.

What is the point of argument between Rashi and the רבינו חננאל?

Questions:

Does the portion that is peeled need to be a certain size, color, on specific area, or in multiple locations in order to disqualify the Esrog?
Learn רא”ש ס’ יז who brings two opinions https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=479&hilite=

Bring a proof the opinion of Rashi whether the peeled area disqualifies only if it’s multiple locations on the Esrog or even on one spot?

According to which opinion do we rule for the Halacha?

Learn שולחן ערוך אור”ח ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף ו with the משנה ברורה https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=236

Learn the :גמרא דף נא from after the Mishnah until the two dots

Questions: 

• If the Jews living in mitzrayim were in violation of the לא תעשה prohibiting one to live in Mitzrayim why does the gemara attribute their settlement as the paradigm example of the honor of klal yisrael? 
• Why didn’t the gemara know in the question that they were in violation of the  לא תעשה not to return to Mitzrayim?
• Why were the Jews living in Mitzrayim punished so harshly for living in Mitzrayim which is just a  לא תעשה – culpable at most with lashes and not death? 
• Were the people who were born and raised in Egypt in violation of the  לא תעשה as they never actually moved to egypt?
  • Learn “ערוך לנר “סטיו כפול who answers many of the above questions 
  • • https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=202
• How was the Rambam permitted to live in Mitzrayim?
  • Learn רמב”ם ה’ מלכים פרק ה הלכה ז-ח and the רדב”ז (on side of the Rambam) who answers this question.
    • https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58968&st=&pgnum=185&hilite=

Learn “תוס’ דף נב. “וכיון

Clarify the two answers of Tosfos as to why the response of Amen based on the signal of the flag was not considered an אמן יתומה

Question:

Does the opinion of Rav Tzadok Hakohen that Tosfos quotes agree with the first explanation of tosfos or the second answer of Tosfos? 

Learn גמרא ברכות דף מז. “אמן יתומה with Rashi and Tosfos who asks the same question of Tosfos in Sukkah and only brings the second the answer of Tosfos. 

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=1&daf=47&format=pdf

Questions:

• Why is the punishment so severe for saying an אמן יתומה?
• According to the first answer of Tosfos, why is the issue of responding an אמן יתומה just in regards to a bracha one is obligated to recite?
• According to the second answer of Tosfos is it permitted to respond Amen to a bracha that one is obligated to recite when he did not hear the bracha but knows exactly which bracha had just been said?  
  • List the נפקא מינה between the two answers of Tosfos. 

Learn טור אורח חיים ס’ קכ”ד סע’ ח

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14265&st=&pgnum=204

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ קכ”ד  

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60386&st=&pgnum=303

What is the difference between the ruling of the Mechaber and the Rema?

See the Mishna Berura

Very quickly review the second half of the .משנה דף נא starting from “חסידים ואנשי מעשה”

Learn “תוס’ דף נא. “שעליהן
Learn “תוסי דף נא: “קרא

Review רמב״ם הלכות לולב פרק ח הלכה יב-טו
Who lists the details discussed in the mishnah.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=294
Note the differences between the Rambam and the Mishnah
Questions:
How could the Rambam say the setting up of the bleachers for women occurred on Erev Sukkos when the mishnah says it was done the night after the first day of Sukkos?
Why does the Rambam not specify that the musical instruments were played by the Leviim?
Why does the Rambam not list the Chalil as one of the instruments?
Why does the Rambam not mention the blasting of the shofar as the water drawer exited the Beis hamikdash?
See ערוך לנר who addresses many of the differences.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=201
Why does the Rambam conclude with a whole explanation as to what Simcha is?

Learn the גמרא דף נא: from after the Mishnah until the two dots.

Conclusion of Sugya: Pitum

How do we conclude lhalacha regarding the falling off of the פיטום and עוקץ?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף ז-ח and the משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=236

The Shulchan Aruch rules if the Pitum falls off the Esrog is pasul. How much of the Pitum needs to fall off to disqualify?
Just the crown, part of the דד, the entire דד, part of the wood embedded internally, all the wood embedded internally?
Learn משנה ברורה ס”ק ל who brings three opinions and שער הציון אות לג who discusses the sources from the Rishonim and Achronim. See קובץ הלכות לולב פרק לא סעיף ו
See ערוך השולחן ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף כד

Does it matter what type of Pitum the Esrog has?
Learn כף החיים ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף ז ס”ק מו and הליכות שלמה לולב פרק י סעיף יט and קובץ הלכות לולב פרק לא סעיף ד who disagrees.

Questions:
What’s the status of an Esrog if the crown on top of the Pitum falls off?
Learn משנה ברורה ס”ק לא and שער הציון אות לו See ערוך השולחן ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף כד

Why doesn’t one need to be concerned with purchasing an Esrog without a Pitum that perhaps it had a Pitum and it fell off?
Learn משנה ברורה ס”ק לב and שער הציון אות לז. See קובץ הלכות לולב פרק לא סעיף ב who disagrees.

What if the Pitum falls off while the Esrog is still attached to the tree?
See לבוש ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף ז , Sefer הערות על גמרא סוכה דף לה: “נטלה , קובץ הלכות לולב פרק לא סעיף א and הליכות שלמה לולב פרק י סעיף יח who disagrees with the above Poskim.

Point to Consider:
Is it preferable to purchase an Esrog with a Pitum? See ביכורי יעקב ס תרמ”ח ס”ק כה
Sefer הערות על גמרא סוכה דף לה עמוד ב from Hagaon Rav Elyashiv Zt”l see דרשו משנה ברורה note 61 ,

Sugya: Pitum

Very quickly review the “גמרא דף לה: “נטל פטמתו until “נקלף”

Write a summary of the four opinions we learnt (2 in Rashi & 2 in Tosfos/Rosh) as to what part of the Esrog is the פיטום, the עוקץ and what will disqualify the Esrog if it falls off.
List the halachik נפקא מינה of these four opinions.

Questions:
The second opinion (ר’ יצחק הלוי) brought in Rashi holds that an Esrog which the woody piece that’s embedded inside the bottom of the Esrog falls out is pasul because it’s considered חסר.
The רא”ש ס’ טז explained that the first opinion (ר’ יעקב) brought in Rashi disagrees and holds the Esrog remains Kosher.
Why doesn’t ר’ יעקב disqualify this Esrog for the reason of חסר?
Learn חידושי הגרי”ז סוכה

The first opinion (ר’ יעקב) brought in Rashi holds if the top protruding piece from the Esrog (what is generally referred to as פיטום) falls off the Esrog is pasul.
Why? See the מגן אברהם ס’תרמ”ט ס”ק יז
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=392

See the קרבן נתנאל אות ק who says it’s not הדר
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=479&hilite=

According to the reason of הדר why is an Esrog that grows without a Pitum kosher?
Why does the second opinion (ר’ יצחק הלוי) brought in Rashi hold it’s Kosher?
Learn ערוך השולחן ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף כ-כא who explains the reasoning of the opinions of ר’ יעקב and ר’ יצחק הלוי and gives a different explanation than the Brisker Rav.

If the Pitum falls off is the Esrog Pasul just the first day of Sukkos or for the entire Yom Tov?
Learn רמ”א ס’ תרמ”ט סעיף ה “וחסר כשר ..וניטל פטמתו .. and משנה ברורה ס”ק לו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=246

Questions:
What’s the status of the Esrog if the crown on top of the Pitum falls off?
See the ריף דף יז: דפי הריף (top line) and the רן “תאני ר’ יצחק (sixth line from bottom of the Amud)
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=617
How do we conclude lhalacha regarding the falling off of the פיטום and עוקץ?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף ז-ח and the משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=236

Point to Consider:
Is an Esrog that grows without a Pitum kosher?
What if the Pitum falls off while the Esrog is still attached to the tree?
Is it preferable to purchase an Esrog with a Pitum?
See Sefer הערות על גמרא סוכה דף לה עמוד ב from Hagaon Rav Eliyashuv Zt”l
Learn רמ”א ס’ תרמ”ט סעיף ה “וחסר כשר ..וניטל פטמתו .. and משנה ברורה ס”ק לו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=246

Sugya: פיטום

Learn the “גמרא דף לה: “נטל פטמתו until “נקלף”

Points to Clarify:
What part of the Esrog is the פיטום?
What part of the Esrog is the בוכנא?
What part of the Esrog is the עוקץ?

Is רבי יצחק coming to explain what is a פיטום or to add another disqualifying issue?
Learn “רש”י “תניא רבי יצחק who presents two explanations for the case of נטלה פטמתו
Learn “תוספת “נטלה

Question:
What’s a halachik נפקא מינה of these two explanations?

Learn the רא”ש ס’ טז – who brings two additional explanations from the ר”ת and the ר”ח and various נפקא מינה.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=479&hilite=

Question:
Why is the Esrog pasul when the פיטום falls off?
Why is the Esrog kosher when the עוקץ falls off?
Learn קרבן נתנאל אות ק

What’s the status of the Esrog if the crown on top of the Pitum falls off?
See the ריף דף יז: דפי הריף (top line) and the רן “תאני ר’ יצחק (sixth line from bottom of the Amud)
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=617

Write a summary of the five opinions (2 in Rashi & 2 in Tosfos/Rosh & 1 in the Rif) as to what part of the Esrog is the פיטום, the עוקץ and what will disqualify the Esrog if it falls off.
List the halachik נפקא מינה of these opinions.

Question:
What is the central point that these opinions are arguing about?
Learn חידושי הגרי”ז סוכה

Learn רמ”א ס’ תרמ”ט סעיף ה “וחסר כשר ..וניטל פטמתו .. and משנה ברורה ס”ק לו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=246

Questions:
Is an Esrog that grows without a Pitum kosher?
What if the Pitum falls off while the Esrog is still attached to the tree?

How do we conclude lhalacha regarding the falling off of the פיטום and עוקץ?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף ז-ח and the Mishna berura
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=236

Topic – חוטם

Question:
What part of the Esrog is the חוטם?
Learn רש”י דף לה: “חוטם and the רא”ש ס’ כ and how he explains Rashi. https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=479

Learn רמב״ם הלכות לולב פרק ח הלכה ז
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&st=&pgnum=292
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף ט & יב and “ביאור הלכה סעיף ט “ממקום שמתחיל להתקצר” and “ממקום שמתחיל לשפע “

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=237

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=238

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף יב- יד and משנה ברורה

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=238

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=239

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=240

Sugya: Pitum

Learn the “גמרא דף לה: “נטל פטמתו until “נקלף”

Points to Clarify:
What part of the Esrog is the פיטום?
What part of the Esrog is the בוכנא?
What part of the Esrog is the עוקץ?

Is רבי יצחק coming to explain what is a פיטום or to add another disqualifying issue?
Learn “רש”י “תניא רבי יצחק who presents two explanations for the case of נטלה פטמתו
Learn “תוספת “נטלה

Learn the רא”ש ס’ טז – who brings two additional explanations from the ר”ת and the ר”ח and various נפקא מינה.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=479&hilite=

Question:
What’s a halachik נפקא מינה of these two explanations?

Question:
Why is the Esrog pasul when the פיטום falls off?
Why is the Esrog kosher when the עוקץ falls off?
Learn קרבן נתנאל אות ק

What’s the status of the Esrog if the crown on top of the Pitum falls off?
See the ריף דף יז: דפי הריף (top line) and the רן “תאני ר’ יצחק (sixth line from bottom of the Amud)

Topic: חזזית – Blettil
Very quickly review the Gemara from “עלתה חזזית” until נטלה פטמתו

Why does a חזזית disqualify an Esrog?
Review רא”ש ס’ טו “מתניתן who explains the ירושלמי (quoted in תוספת “דף לה: “עלתה)
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=479
(Note: The additional condition the רא”ש adds to what is a חזזית when he is quoting Rashi that the חזזית is raised.
Is that absolutely necessary to disqualify?)

Learn the פרי מגדים – אשל אברהם – אורח חיים ס’ תרמ”ח ס”ק י”ט who presents two reasons for the pasul of חזזית
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41247&st=&pgnum=344

Questions:
Will a Blettil (scab)- on the surface of the Esrog disqualify as a חזזית?
Learn תרומת הדשן ס’ צט (in middle of last paragraph – starting from אבל פסול דחזזית) for two explanations why it’s kosher? https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=388

What’s a נפקא מיניה between the two reasons?
Learn the שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף יג with the משנה ברורה as to the halacha of an Esrog with a Blettil
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=238

Learn the מגן אברהם ס”ק י”ט who explains an important element as to what type of חזזית will disqualify.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=388

Question on the מגן אברהם:
What’s the whole discussion whether a Blettil will disqualify an Esrog as the Blettil is caused by thorns scratching the Esrog while it’s growing?
Learn the ביאור הלכה ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף יג “אבעבעות for an answer.

Topic – חוטם

Question:
What part of the Esrog is the חוטם?
Learn רש”י דף לה: “חוטם and the רא”ש ס’ כ and how he explains Rashi. https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=479

Learn רמב״ם הלכות לולב פרק ח הלכה ז
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&st=&pgnum=292
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף ט & יב and “ביאור הלכה סעיף ט “ממקום שמתחיל להתקצר” and “ממקום שמתחיל לשפע “

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=237

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=238

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ח סעיף יב- יד and משנה ברורה

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=238

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=239

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=240

Continue learning the גמרא דף לה: “נטל פטמתו until “נקלף
Learn רש”י “תניא רבי יצחק and תוספת “נטלה

Topic: חזזית
Very quickly review the Gemara from “עלתה חזזית” until נוטלה פטמתו

Is the pasul of חזזית only on the first day or all the days of Sukkos?
Review “תוספת “עלתה
Learn רא”ש ס’ טו “מתניתן who explains why the ירושלמי holds a חזזית will only disqualify an Esrog on the first day of Sukkos.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=479

Will multiple חזזית disqualify an Esrog because it is מנומר / spotted if they are the same color of the Esrog?
Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “אבל בשנים (in middle of the wide lines) who quotes the opinion of the ראב”ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=617

Major Question:
Why should the color make a difference? Shouldn’t the Esrog be disqualified because of the תזזית itself regardless of the coloring?

Why does a חזזית disqualify an Esrog?
Bring a proof from רא”ש ס’ טו “מתניתן who explains the ירושלמי (quoted in תוספת “דף לה: “עלתה)
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=479
(Note: The additional condition the רא”ש adds to what is a חזזית when he is quoting Rash that the חזזית is raised.
Is that absolutely necessary to disqualify?)

Does “רש”י דף לג: “מנומר (first line) definitely disagree with the Rosh?
Learn the פרי מגדים – אשל אברהם – אורח חיים ס’ תרמ”ח ס”ק י”ט who presents two reasons for the pasul of חזזית

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41247&st=&pgnum=344

Learn the מגן אברהם ס”ק י”ט who explains an important element as to what type of חזזית will disqualify.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=388

Questions:
Will a Blattil (scab)- on the surface of the Esrog disqualify?
Learn תרומת הדשן ס’ צט (second half of the piece) for two explanations why it’s kosher? https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=388

What’s a נפקא מיניה between the two reasons ?

Learn the שולחן ערוך ס’תרמ”ח סעיף יג with the משנה ברורה and the ביאור הלכה as to the halacha of Blattil
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=238