Review the “גמרא דף כה: ” ההיא אבוורנקא (four lines from bottom of the amud) until דף כו (two dots) – (do not focus today on the understanding of the three questions that were asked to רבא)
Learn the רש”י דף כו. “להרע who presents an entirely new explanation in the Gemara from the תשובות הגאונים
What are the differences between how Rashi and the תשובות הגאונים explain
1. Where it was prohibited to carry and why?
2. Where did רב הונא בר חיננא install the posts?
3. How did it permit carrying?
4. Why did רבא remove the posts?
5. Does רב פפא & רב הונא בריה דרב יהושע agree with רבא or argue with him?
6. What did the ריש גלותא mean when he said וחכמים המה להרע ולהיטיב לא ידעו
Why does Rashi favor the explanation of the תשובות הגאונים more than the explanation that he gave?
Review the גמרא דף נא. “ורבי ירמיה בר אבא (one third down the Amud) until “מיתיבי (middle of the Amud) and continue learning the Gemara until “מאי טעמא”
Question:
According to רבי ירמיה בר אבא everyone agrees that the musical instruments were played daily at the Nisuch hayayin of the Korban Tamid even on Shabbos and Yom tov. Why was this permitted is it because they hold עיקר שירה בכלי or because of a different reason?
Tosfos first answer seems to contradict תוסי דף נ: “ורבנן who said the musical instruments were not played during the Simchas Beis Hashoeva due to the numerous instruments which would break frequently and need to be fixed?
Which explanation of the machlokes between ר’ יוסי בר יהודה and the רבנן does the יורשלמי side with – רב יוסף or רבי ירמיה בר אבא ?
What is the reason why playing musical instruments are permitted? Is it because the mitzvah of Simcha for the Nisuch Hamayim is only drabanan or because it’s not part of the Avodah?
Learn חידושי גרי”ז סוכה דף נ (last piece in the Sefer)
According to Tosfos explanation of the conclusion of the Gemara
What is the status of a קרפף יותר מבית סאתים that has a house inside of it. If the house is destroyed does the Karfef remain permitted to carry inside of?
See ביאור הלכה ס’ שנ”ח סע’ יד “חוזר
Learn the “גמרא דף כ”ה: ” ההיא אבוורנקא (four lines from bottom of the amud) until דף כו (two dots)
Clarify where it was prohibited to carry and why?
What did רב הונא בר חיננא do and how did it permit carrying?
Why did Rava remove the posts?
Did רב פפא & רב הונא בריה דרב יהושע agree with Rava or argue with him?
Learn the רש”י דף כו. “להרע which gives an entirely new explanation in the Gemara
Review the “גמרא דף כ”ה: “ההוא בוסתנא (middle of the amud) until “ההיא אבוורנקא
Question: According to Rashi does the אפדנא also become אסור to carry inside? Learn ריטב”א for his interpretation of Rashi and additional explanations of the Gemara
Learn “תוס’ “ההוא Draw a diagram of the scenario of the Gemara according to Rashi & according to Tosfos. Questions: How are they different? Why does Tosfos explain the case differently from Rashi?
What rule l’halacha do we learn from this Gemara? Learn שולחן ערוך או”ח ס’ שנ”ח סע’ יד and the משנה ברורה
There seems to be a contradiction in the Rambam that he says שבות במקדש is totally permitted and yet in regards to a שבות רחוקה it’s אסור?
Learn צל”ח פסחים ס”ה for an answer
Learn the “גמרא דף נ: “אמר רב פפא” (bottom of the Amud) until דף נא. “ורבי ירמיה בר אבא (one third down the Amud)
And continue learning Gemara until “מיתיבי ” (middle of the Amud)
Learn תוס’ דף נא. “כתנאי
Clarify the two answers of Tosfos
Questions:
This seems to contradict תוסי דף נ: “ורבנן who said the musical instruments were not played during the simchas Beis Hashoeva as due to the numerous instruments many would break frequently and would need to be fixed?
See ערוך לנר דף נא. תוס’ תנאי starting with paragraph “אכן”
What is the reason why playing musical instruments are permitted? Is it because the mitzvah of Simcha for the Nisuch Hamayim is only drabanan or because it’s not part of the avodah?
Learn חידושי גרי”ז סוכה דף נ (last piece in the Sefer)
Learn the גמרא דף נ: “אמר רב יוסף מנא אמינא until “ואיבעית אימא” (fourteen lines from bottom of the Amud)
Review תוס’ דף נ. “שאינו
Tosfos asked – We have a rule אין שבות במקדש and playing musical instruments are only prohibited from a gezira drabanan so why did the rabanan not allow the playing of the instruments for the שמחת בית השואבה on Shabbos or Yom Tov? Tosfos answered because the music played was just because of שמחה יתירה.
Review תוס’ “דף נ: “ורבנן
How does that conform with the reason that Tosfos “דף נ: “ורבנן gives that there were many musical instruments and they were prone to breaking that needed to be constantly fixed?
We learnt the פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס’ שס”ב ס”ק ג (in middle) who made a split between naturally formed and man made covering which the area underneath would be permitted to carry.
Learn פרי מגדים משבצות זהב ס’ שנ”ח ס”ק א who discusses why even according to the Rishonim who explain our Gemara קרפף ג’ סאה וקירוי סאה is operating with Pi Tikrah still they agree that a covered Karfef is permitted to carry inside of.
Is it permitted to carry inside a large warehouse that is more than a בית סאתים?
Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ שס”ב סע’ א “או who gives two reasons why it should be permitted
Yesterday we asked a major contradiction in the Shulchan Aruch whether we say פי תקרה יורד וסותם on an angled roof. The שו”ע או”ח ס’ שס”א, ב says we do not, yet the שו”ע או”ח ס’ שנ”ח סע’ יב (especially see the language of the Tur) says we do.
The Shulchan Aruch seems to contradict itself as to why a קרפף יותר מבית סאתים that has a roof on top of it is permitted to carry inside? See פרישה ס’ שנ”ח אות ז
Very quickly review the גמרא דף כה. “קרפף בית שלש until דף כה: אמר רבי זירא
Learn the “גמרא דף צד: “מאי שנא מרוח אחת (ten lines from top of the Amud) until “אבל בשלש אית ליה” (middle of the Amud)
Learn תוס’ דף צד. “בשתי until the middle of Tosfos on דף צד: “ומשני
& Learn תוס’ דף כה. “אכסדרה who brings the opinion of ר”ת who argues on Rashi’s explanation of how many walls can be created through פי תקרה יורד וסותם
Learn תוס’ דף כה: “אי” & “הכא
Questions:
How does Tosfos explain what אורזילא means?
How is this different from Rashi?
According to Tosfos do we say פי תקרה יורד וסותם on a sloped roof?
We proved that Rashi explained the argument is whether we say פי תקרה יורד וסותם on a slanted roof
According to Rabbenu Tam – Is the machlokes between Rav and Shmuel whether we say פי תקרה יורד וסותם on all four sides or whether a covered area can be included in calculating area of a קרפף שלא הוקף לדירה?