Category: Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim’s shiurim

Write a summary based on תוס’ דף מד. “מטה, the גמרא דף לו with Rashi & תוס’ דף לו. “אמר ר’ יהודה, and תוס’ דף מד: “הא –  of the different explanations we learnt last week 

• Why a מטה שיחדה למעות is considered Muktzah?
• What level of Muktza it is?
• Is it Muktzah just according to ר”י or even according to ר”ש?

Learn רא”ש פרק ג ס’ כ starting from הוא שאמר רב מטה (towards the end)

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=357

How do we rule in regards to a מטה שיחדה למעות?

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”י סע’ ז

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=130

Learn the מגן אברהם ס”ק ה who asks two questions on the רמ”א 

See ה’ רע”א on the שולחן ערוך for an answer 

Learn משנה ברורה

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=232

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=233

Learn גמרא דף מד: “אמר עולא until “ורב (last line of the Amud) 

Very quickly review גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Very quickly review גמרא דף לו explanations of the three Braissos in regards to whether it is permitted to move a shofar or a trumpet on Shabbos

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=36&format=pdf

See תוס’ דף לו. “אמר ר’ יהודה 

What is the difference between Rashi and Tosfos explanation of the Gemara? 

Learn תוס’ דף מד: “הא – last three lines in the parentheses 

Question:

What is the difference between this Tosfos and תוס’ דף מד. “מטה?

Based on the above explain:

Why is a מטה שיחדה למעות considered Muktzah even when there is no money on top of the bed? 

What level of Muktza is it?

Is it Muktzah just according to the opinion of ר”י or even according to ר”ש?

Learn רא”ש פרק ג ס’ כ starting from הוא שאמר רב מטה (towards the end)

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=357

How do we rule in regards to a מטה שיחדה למעות?

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”י סע’ ז

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=130

Learn the מגן אברהם ס”ק ה who asks two questions on the מחבר

See ה’ רע”א on the שולחן ערוך for an answer 

Learn משנה ברורה

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=232

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=233

Review גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Review תוס’ דף מד. “מטה

Review גמרא דף לה: “והתניא שופר מטלטל (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף לו. “ומאי שופר

And תוס’ דף לו. “אמר ר’ יהודה 

What is the difference between Rashi and Tosfos explanation of the Gemara? 

Learn תוס’ דף מד: “הא  – last three lines in the parenthesis 

Question:

What is the difference between this Tosfos and תוס’ דף מד. “מטה?

Based on the above explain:

• Why is a מטה שיחדה למעות considered Muktzah even when there is no money on top of the bed? 
• What level of Muktza is it?
• Is it Muktzah just according to the opinion of ר”י or even according to ר”ש?

Learn רא”ש פרק ג ס’ כ starting from הוא שאמר רב מטה (towards the end)

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=357

How do we rule in regards to a מטה שיחדה למעות?

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ ש”י סע’ ז

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=232

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=233

Learn גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Questions:

Why is a מטה שיחדה למעות considered Muktzah even without when there is no money on top of the bed? 

What level of Muktza is it?

Is it Muktzah just according to the opinion of ר”י or even according to ר”ש?

Learn תוס’ דף מד. “מטה

Learn גמרא דף לה: “והתניא שופר מטלטל (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף לו. “ומאי שופר

Learn רש'”י well 

Learn תוס’ דף לו. “אמר ר’ יהודה 

What is the difference between Rashi and Tosfos explanation of the Gemara? 

Conclusion Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

Last week we discussed at length 

1. What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?

The אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט (first two paragraphs) explains the source is “והכינו” an item has to be prepared for use for Shabbos. If it was not prepared before Shabbos than it is Muktzah 

2. Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?

The אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה”) gave two explanations

A) Either ר”ש does not agree to the requirement that an item needs to be prepared for Shabbos 

B) He agrees to והכינו however in a case where the person is anticipating using it on Shabbos although it might be off limits at the beginning of Shabbos it is considered prepared. 

3. Why does ר”ש agree that a large container of oil is muktza even after the flame goes out? 

The אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד – left column) explained as the lantern and oil were not prepared for use for Shabbos/

4. There is a machlokes about what the position of ר”ש is in regards to an animal that died on Shabbos whether it is Muktzah.

What is the reasoning behind this machlokes?

This is a matter of dispute between the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish. 

Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=125&hilite=

Clarify each of their explanations  

Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו “עד כאן לא שרי for his explanation of animal that was slaughtered on Shabbos to feed a sick person

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=215

Quickly review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Based on what we learned from the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish how can we explain the logic that only when there is a combination of מוקצה מחמת איסור and מוקצה מחמת מיאוס will we say מיגו דאתקצאי ?

Learn גמרא דף מד. “אמר רב יהודה (two lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מד: “אמר עולא (middle of the Amud)

Why is a מטה שיחדה למעות considered Muktzah? 

What level of Muktza is it?

Learn תוס’ דף מד. “מטה

Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

There is a major machlokes between ר”י & ר”ש if a lantern that was lit at the begining of Shabbos remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame is extinguished. 

This machlokes is contingent on the concept of מיגו דאתקצאי – something which is Muktza during Bein Hashmoshas remains Muktza for the entire Shabbos.

Major Question:

What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?

Review the אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – first two paragraphs.

Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה” for an incredible explanation)

The Gemara brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the flame goes out.

What is the explanation for their argument?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the left column “ומה נעים” for an incredible explanation. 

Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=215

Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד for a different explanation than the אפיקי ים

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=125&hilite=

Quickly review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Based on what we learnt from the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish how can we explain the logic that only when there is a combination of מוקצה מחמת איסור and מוקצה מחמת מיאוס will we say מיגו דאתקצאי 

Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

There is a major machlokes between ר”י & ר”ש if a lantern that was lit at the begining of Shabbos remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame is extinguished. 

This machlokes is contingent on the concept of מיגו דאתקצאי – something which is Muktza during Bein Hashmoshas remains Muktza for the entire Shabbos.

Major Question:

What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי?

Review the אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – first two paragraphs.

Why does ר”ש not hold of – מיגו דאתקצאי?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the right column “והנה” for an incredible explanation)

The Gemara brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the flame goes out.

What is the explanation for their argument?

Learn אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט – (page רד bottom of the left column “ומה נעים” for an incredible explanation. 

Learn רשב”א חולין דף טו.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=215

Learn חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד for a different explanation than the אפיקי ים

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=125&hilite=

Quickly review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Based on what we learnt from the אפיקי ים and the Chazon Ish how can we explain the logic that only when there is a combination of מוקצה מחמת איסור and מוקצה מחמת מיאוס will we say מיגו דאתקצאי 

Sugya – מיגו דאתקצאי

Quickly review the גמרא דף מד. “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines) until the two dots (two lines from bottom of the Amud)

Review תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Tosfos says that although neither מוקצה מחמת איסור or מוקצה מחמת מיאוס is enough of a logic to make an item Muktzah when they are combined it will render the item Muktzah.

What is the reasoning for this?

Major Question:

What is the reasoning of מיגו דאתקצאי something which is Muktza during Bein Hashmoshas remains Muktza for the entire Shabbos?

Why does ר”ש not hold of   – מיגו דאתקצאי  – it does not remain Muktza for the entire Shabbos?

The Gemara earlier brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if ר”ש agrees that it is muktza even after the fame goes out.

What is the explanation for their argument?

Learn  אפיקי ים חלק ב ס’ יט (attached)

See רשב”א חולין דף טו.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=215

See חזון איש ס’ מא אות ד

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Learn the גמרא דף מד.  “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines) until the two dots (two lines from bottom of the Amud)

Learn תוס’ “לדברי

Question:

Tosfos says that although neither מוקצה מחמת איסור or מוקצה מחמת מיאוס is enough of a logic to make an item Muktzah when they are combined it will render the item Muktzah.

What is the reasoning for this?

Review the גמרא דף מד. “אבל כוס קערה ועששית until “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines)

Questions:

Why does ר”ש agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Learn ריטב”א 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14349&st=&pgnum=198

Does רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון also agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Learn ח’ ר”ן 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40873&st=&pgnum=55

What is the point of dispute between ר”ש & רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון in regards to the oil that drips out of the lantern while the flame is still burning?

Learn רשב”א

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=65

Learn ח’ ר”ן

Important point :

Does ר”ש agree to the concept of מיגו דאתקצאי ?

Bring a proof 

Very quickly review משנה דף מד and the גמרא until “אבל כוס קערה ועששית (middle of the Amud)

Questions:

Why is the נר Muktzah?

Why is a נר ישן של חרס Muktzah?

What is the point of dispute between ר”י & ר”ש in regards to מוקצה מחמת מיאוס?

What is the point of dispute between ר”ש & רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון in regards to the oil that drips out of the lantern while the flame is still burning?

Learn רשב”א 

Learn ח’ ר”ן 

Learn the גמרא דף מד. “אבל כוס קערה ועששית until “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines)

Questions: 

According to ר”מ why does a lantern that was lit when Shabbos started remain Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Why does ר”ש agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Learn ריטב”א 

Does רבי אליעזר בן רבי שמעון also agree that a כוס קערה ועששית remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame went out?

Learn ח’ ר”ן 

Learn משנה דף מד and the גמרא until “אבל כוס קערה ועששית (middle of the Amud)

There are many points and disputes in this sugya.

Why is the lantern Muktzah?

Why is a used pottery lantern Muktzah?

What is the point of dispute between ר”י & ר”ש?

Why is the oil Muktzah?

Why is a lantern that was lit when Shabbos started Muktzah?

What is the point of dispute between ר”מ, ר”ש & ר”א בר ר”ש?

Continue learning the גמרא דף מד. “אבל כוס קערה ועששית until “א”ר זירא (two lines before the wide lines)

Why does ר”ש agree it is Muktzah?

Does ר”א בר ר”ש also agree?

What is the point of dispute between the מהרש”א on תוס’ דף מב: “אין and the גליון הש”ס on Tosfos 

List the different reasons why the oil is Muktzah and the נפקא מינה between the reasons 

Learn משנה דף מד and the גמרא until “אבל כוס קערה ועששית (middle of the Amud)

Very quickly review תוס’ דף מב: “ואין

Is the oil Muktza to move or just prohibited to use?

Learn מהרש”א on Tosfos 

According to ר”ש is the oil that drips out while the lantern is still burning just Muktza in regards to using the oil or also Muktzah for moving? – learn גליון הש”ס on Tosfos 

List the different reasons why the oil is Muktzah and the נפקא מינה between the reasons 

Learn משנה דף מד and the גמרא until “אבל כוס קערה ועששית (middle of the Amud)

Quickly review the גמרא דף מד. “אין נאותים until the Mishna 

Learn תוס’ דף מב: ואין

Is the oil Muktza to move or just prohibited to use?

Learn מהרש”א on Tosfos 

The different reasons why the oil is Muktzah and the נפקא מינה between the reasons 

Learn משנה דף מד and the גמרא until “אבל כוס קערה ועששית (middle of the Amud)

Learn גמרא דף מד. “אין נאותים until the Mishna 

Learn תוס’ “שבנר

Learn תוס’ דף מג: ואין

See מהרש”א on Tosfos