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Review גמרא טו starting from “הניחא” (Second to last line of the עמוד) until “טו: “דתני תנא  and continue the גמרא until ”  במאי קא מיפליגי”
Learn “רש”י “הניחא carefully to understand the למדות of ביטלו ולא ביטלו & קיימו ולא קיימו
Learn “תוס’ “הניחא who gives a different timeframe then רש”י  to fulfill the עשה .
Questions:
  • According to the opinion of קיימו ולא קיימו why does ב”ד give the violator an opportunity to fulfill the עשה .
  • How does ‘תוס differ from רש”י’s understanding of קיימו ולא קיימו?
Learn “תוס’ “מידי starting from ולכך פ’ ר’ שלמה מדרוי”ש for an entirely new way to explain the question of the .גמרא טו of “הניחא
  • How would רש”י answer ‘תוס question?
  • Why did רש”י not explain the גמרא question of הניחא like ר’ שלמה מדרוי”ש?
Point to ponder (On the prior גמרא):
  • The גמרא  explains the reason why there is no מלקות by a לאו הניתק לעשה is because the עשה rectifies the לאו. This is direct contradiction to the :גמרא י”ג which says the reason is because a לאו הניתק לעשה is not similar to the לאו דחסימה ?  We could answer that the  : גמרא י”ג initially thought the reason was because it is not similar to the לאו דחסימה but the גמרא  by us clarifies and concludes  the reason why there is no מלקות by a לאו הניתק לעשה is because the עשה rectifies the לאו. The issue is “רש”י פסחים פד. “בא  brings both reasons to explain why there is no מלקות by a לאו הניתק לעשה???

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 15A: Amar Lai Rav Pupa (02/24/2014)

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Learn .גמרא טו starting from  “א”ל רב פפא
(5 lines from the bottom of the עמוד) until “הניחא”

  • What is the מחלוקת between רב פפא & רבא ? Learn “ריטב”א “א”ל רבא
Major question:
  • The גמרא  explains the reason why there is no מלקות by a לאו הניתק לעשה is because the עשה rectifies the לאו. This is direct contradiction to the :גמרא י”ג which says the reason is because a לאו הניתק לעשה is not similar to the לאו דחסימה ?
Continue the גמרא until “טו: “דתני תנא
Learn “רש”י “הניחא carefully to understand the למדות of ביטלו ולא ביטלו & קיימו ולא קיימו
Learn “תוס’ “הניחא
  • Does ‘תוס agree to רש”י’s explanation in קיימו ולא קיימו?
(On the prior גמרא)
Bring a proof from the prior גמרא whether the מצוה of ולו תהיה לאשה is;
A) a constant מצוה to be married to her, or
B) a one time מצוה to marry her and if he divorces her he broke that מצוה and now he has a מצוה to remarry her

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 15A: Ela Lo Yomar… (02/19/2014)

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Review .גמרא טו starting from “אלא לא” (seven lines before the wide lines) until “במאי גמר מיניה” (last line before the wide lines)
{For this גמרא one needs to look up the פסוקים in פרשת כי תצא פרק כ”ב ,פסוקים י”ט & כ”ט}

Question:
  • The גמרא asks why are we so quick to use ולו תהיה לאשה from מוציא שם רע for אונס as opposed to using it for מוציא שם רע itself. Why didn’t the גמרא ask this initially? (See “ריטב”א” ואימא)
Continue the גמרא until א”ל רב פפא
Learn “תוס’ “כל
What’s נפקא מינה between רש”י & תוס explanation?
Point to ponder:
What’s the מצוה of ולו תהיה לאשה is it;
A) a constant מצוה to be married to her, or
B) a one time מצוה to marry her and if he divorces her he broke that מצוה and now he has a מצוה to remarry her?
Major Question:
  • The definition of a לאו שקדמו עשה is that one can perform the עשה prior or subsequent to the violation of the לאו. In the הוה אמינא of the גמרא (before we have a source that ולו תהיה לאשה is requiring the מאנס to remarry her) all we know is that the מאנס has a מצוה to marry her initially.  So how could the גמרא consider the מצוה of ולו תהיה לאשה a לאו שקדמו עשה when the performance of this מצוה is solely prior to the violation of the עשה?

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 15A (02/17/2014)

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Quickly review .גמרא טו starting from “אמר עולא ” (nine lines from the top of the עמוד) until “במאי גמר מיניה ” (last line before the wide lines)
{For this גמרא one needs to look up the פסוקים

Question:
  • The גמרא brings עולא who learns thru a ק”ו from מוציא שם רע to אונס that the מאנס has a מצוה to remarry her. What’s the comparison by the מוציא שם רע it is his wife so the תורה fines the husband to remain married  to her but how do we learn out that the מאנס has an obligation to marry her? Learn the first paragraph of פני יהושוע “אמר עולא
  • The גמרא in the end asks why are we so quick to use ולו תהיה לאשה from מוציא שם רע for אונס as opposed to using it for מוציא שם רע itself. But why didn’t the גמרא ask this initially? ( See ריטב”א ” ואימא )

Continue the גמרא until א”ל רב פפא
Learn תוס’ כל
What’s נפקא מינה between רש”י & תוס explanation?

Point to ponder:
  • What’s the מצוה of ולו תהיה לאשה is it;
  • A) a constant מצוה to be married to her
  • or B) a one time מצוה to marry her and if he divorces her he broke that מצוה and now he has a מצוה to remarry her?

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 14B to 15A: Amar Raba (2) (02/12/2014)

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Quickly review :גמרא יד starting from “אמר רבה” (second to last line of the עמוד)
Until “טו. ” אמר עולא  (nine lines from the top of the עמוד)

Question:
  • If ר יוחנן retracted from his opinion regarding a לאו שקדמו עשה לוקין, and now holds אין לוקין, how does he answer the proof from the גמרא brought from our משנה that לאו שקדמו עשה לוקין? Learn “ריטבא “ותנינא
Point to ponder:
  • Rashi explained the reasoning why ר יוחנן initially held לאו שקדמו עשה לוקין is since the עשה can be performed prior to the לאו it is clear that the function of the עשה is not as a punishment and rectification of the violation of the לאו .  What is the logic of ר יוחנן now that he retracted from that opinion and holds that a לאו שקדמו עשה is אין לוקין?
Continue the גמרא until “במאי גמר מיניה ” (last line before the wide lines)
{For this גמרא one needs to look up the פסוקים about אונס and מוציא שם רע. }

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 14B to 15A: Amar Raba… (02/10/2014)

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Introduction: The next גמרא is based on the opinion that holds  לאו הניתק לעשה אין לוקין.  On this ר’ יוחנן qualifies that if the עשה precedes the לאו then the perpetrator would receive מלקות.

Learn :גמרא יד starting from “אמר רבה” (second to last line of the עמוד)
Until “טו. ” ואכתי  (third way down the עמוד)

Questions:
  • How do we determine what is considered a לאו שקדמו עשה A) The order it is written in the תורה or B) The order how it is performed?  Learn “תוס’ כל & ריטבא “אמר
  • If ר יוחנן retracted from his opinion regarding a לאו שקדמו עשה לוקין, and now holds אין לוקין, how does he answer the proof from the גמרא brought from our משנה that לאו שקדמו עשה לוקין? Learn “ריטבא “ותנינא

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 14B (02/05/2014)

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Quickly review :גמרא יד starting from “וריש לקיש” (middle of the wide lines) until “אמר רבה  (second to last line of the עמוד)

Question:
ר’ יוחנן holds that only if a טמא touches תרומה does he receive מלקות but if he touches קדש he does not receive מלקות.  How could תרומה be more stringent then קדש? Learn “תוס’ “ההוא (from beginning until middle of ‘תוס)  & Learn “רש”י זבחים לג: “בתרומה
Chart out the opinions of ר”ל & ר’ יוחנן

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 14B: “וריש לקיש” (middle of the wide lines) (02/03/2014)

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Learn :גמרא יד starting from “וריש לקיש” (middle of the wide lines) until “אמר רבה  (second to last line of the עמוד)

Question:
  •  ר’ יוחנן holds that only if a טמא touches תרומה does he receive מלקות but if he touches קדש he does not receive מלקות.  How could תרומה be more stringent then קדש? Learn “תוס’ “ההוא (from beginning until middle of ‘תוס)  & Learn “רש”י זבחים לג: “בתרומה

Chart out the opinions of ר”ל & ר’ יוחנן

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 14B: Vi’Idach… (01/27/2014)

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Quickly review …גמרא יד: “ואידך (top of the עמוד) until the two dots.

The גמרא says that ר’ יצחק agrees to ר’ אלעזר אמר ר’ הושעיא who says that whenever there are two individual לאוין,  even if they are grouped together for the punishment of כרת, the criminal who violates both of theseלאוין בהעלם אחד is חייב קרבן for each violation.
  • So why does ר’ יצחק need the לימוד from ואל אשה בנדת טומאתה  (on .יד) to teach us a חייב קרבן for each of the עריות. We should know it from fact that each of the עריות has an individual לאו? Learn רש”י ה”ג very well & “ריטב”א “איבעית אימא (middle paragraph “מה) who argues on רש”י
The גמרא concluded that the רבנן use the פסוק of ואיש אשר … אשה דוה to teach us that a women is only טמא טומאת נדה when the blood isיוצא דרך ערותה.
  • Where does ר’ יצחק learn this from?  Learn ריטב”א “לכדר’ שמעון בר יוחאי

Chart out the different לימודים and where ר’ יצחק and the רבנן learn it out from.

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 14A – 14B: Vi’Idach Nami (01/22/2014)

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Review and continue the .גמ’ יד from ולאידך נמי  (six lines from the bottom of the עמוד) until the two dots on :יד and learn תוס’ ואידך

Questions:
  • We have a rule אין עונשין מן הדין, so how can we learn from a ק”ו that a person is חייב a קרבן for each לאו that prohibits him from cohabitating with this specific lady? Learn “ריטב”א “והלא
  • The גמרא says we can not learn out the punishment of a full sister using a ק”ו from half sisters.  What punishment is the גמרא referring to?

The :גמרא יד brings the opinion of ר’ אלעזר אמר ר’ הושעיא whenever there are two individual לאוין yet  that are grouped together when the תורה  lists the punishment of כרת the criminal who violates both of these לאוין בהעלם אחד  is חייב קרבן for each violation.
  • So why does ר’ יצחק need the לימוד from the fact that the תורה delineated the עונש of כרת by אחותו to teach us that חייב קרבן for each of the עריות. We should know it from fact that each one has individual לאו ? Learn רש”י ה”ג very well.

Chart out the different לימודים and where ר’ יצחק and the רבנן learn it out from.

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 14A: ViAmar Rabi Yitzchak (01/20/2014)

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Review the .גמ’ יד from ור’ יצחק (half way down the עמוד) until ואידך אחותו (fourth line from bottom of the עמוד)

Questions:
Why is it necessary for us to know that ר”ע asked the שאלה when they were in the market looking to purchase meat for the wedding of ר”ג son? (.תוס’ ישנים כריתות טו)
We have a rule אין עונשין מן הדין, so how can we learn from a ק”ו that a person is חייב a קרבן for each לאו that prohibits him from cohabitating with this specific lady? Learn “ריטב”א “והלא

Continue the גמ’ יד until יד: “ואי בעית אימא
Learn תוס’ ואידך

Chart out the different לימודים and where ר’ יצחק and the רבנן learn it out from.

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 14A: Reb Yitzchak Omer (01/14/2014)

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Review quickly  .גמ’ יד from  ר’ יצחק אמר (beginning of the fourth line)  until ור’ יצחק  (half way down the עמוד)

Continue learning the גמרא until ואידך אחותו (fourth line from bottom of the עמוד)

Question:
  • Why did the גמרא create such a bizarre case (of a man who cohabitates with a lady who is his sister as well as being his fathers and mothers sister) to find a scenario where one lady is forbidden to a man from three separate prohibitions?  We could easily have said a case where a lady is his aunt as well as being a married women and a Niddah? Learn “רש”י גמ’ כריתות ב: “על אחותו
  • We have a rule אין עונשין מן הדין, so how can we learn from a ק”ו that a person is חייב a קרבן for each לאו that prohibits him from cohabitating with this specific lady? Learn “ריטב”א “והלא
For extra learning over שבת – Point to ponder:
  • According to ר”ע how does one receive a כפרה for כרת? (See first two and half lines of משנה bottom of .כג and :גמ’ כג right after the משנה (first 8 lines)
  • Does ר”ע agree with רחב”ג? (Learn last ‘בעל המאור & מלחמות ה of the פרק)

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 13B – 14A: Ravina Amar (01/13/2014)

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Review the :גמ’ יג from רבינא אמר (bottom of the עמוד) until the end of third line on .יד
 
Questions:
  • Does רבינא agree with רבא? Learn ריטב”א
  • Does רבינא agree with ר’ אבהו?  Learn “ערוך לנר יג: “כי (towards the end)
Continue the .גמ’ יד until ור’ יצחק  (half way down the עמוד)
Point to ponder:
  • According to ר”ע how does one receive a כפרה for כרת? (See first two and half lines of משנה bottom of .כג and :גמ’ כג right after the משנה (first 8 lines)
  • Does ר”ע agree with רחב”ג? (Learn last ‘בעל המאור & מלחמות ה of the פרק)

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 13B: In Depth explanation of Machlokes Between Rabi Yishmael and Rabi Akiva according to Rava (01/08/2014)

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Questions on :גמ’ יג from רבא
  • According to רבא there is no dispute between ר”ע and ר ישמעאל of what the punishment will be if the criminal was warned that he will receive both מלקות and מיתה. Why? Learn מהרש”א & רש”ש
  • How does רבא explanation of ר”ע fit with the reasoning that ר”ע himself gives in the ברייתא?  Learn מהר”ם
  • Why doesn’t רבא explain the מחלוקת between ר”ע and ר ‘שמעאל like ר’ אבהו?
Continue learning רבינא אמר the  :גמ’ יג until .יד end of third line.
  • Why doesn’t רבינא explain the מחלוקת between ר”ע and ר ‘שמעאל like רבא? Learn ריטב”א
Learn “ערוך לנר יג: “כי which 1) answers the question of the מהרש”א earlier  2) explains why doesn’t רבא explain the מחלוקת between ר”ע and ר ‘שמעאל like ר’ אבהו and 3) explains why doesn’t רבינא explain the מחלוקת between ר”ע and ר ‘שמעאל like רבא

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 13B: Rava Amar (01/06/2014)

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Quickly review :גמ’ יג from רבא (first wide line) until ודלמא (fourth line from the bottom of the עמוד)

Questions:
  • According to רבא there is no dispute between ר”ע and ר ישמעאל of what the punishment will be if the criminal was warned that he will receive both מלקות and מיתה. Why? Learn מהרש”א & רש”ש
  • How does רבא explanation of ר”ע fit with the reasoning that ר”ע himself gives in the ברייתא?  Learn מהרם
  • Why doesn’t רבא explain the מחלוקת between ר”ע and ר ‘שמעאל like ר’ אבהו?
Continue learning רבינא אמר the  :גמ’ יג until יד end of third line.
  • Why doesn’t רבינא explain the מחלוקת between ר”ע and ר ‘שמעאל like רבא? Learn ריטב”א

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 13B (01/01/2014)

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Questions on the גמרא we learnt Monday night… מ”ט דר”ע

 Major question: The ‘גמ gave two reasons to explain the opinion of ר”ע. Either גזירה שוה or כדי רשעתו is only referring toרשעה המסורה לב”ד.  But ר”ע himself explains why he makes a difference between חייבי כריתות and חייבי מיתות ב”ד and its not like either explanation of the גמ? See the הגהות הב”ח אות א, on the side of the ‘גמ

  • What is a נפקא מינה להלכה between the two explanations of ר”ע, either גזירה שוה or כדי רשעתו is only referring to רשעה המסורה לב”ד? Learn תוס’ ברשעה

Learn :גמ’ יג from רבא (first wide line) until ודלמא (fourth line from the bottom of the עמוד)

Questions:
  • What is the difference between רבא and the original explanation of the ‘גמ of the מחלוקת between ר”ע and ר ‘שמעאל?

According to רבא there is no dispute between ר”ע and ר ישמעאל of what the punishment will be if the criminal was warned that he will receive both מלקות and מיתה.

  • Why?
  • What punishment will the criminal receive? Learn מהרש”א & רש”ש

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 13B: ViRabi Akiva Mia Taima (12/30/2013)

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Learn גמ’ יג from ור”ע מאי טעמא (middle of the עמוד)  until ור”ע אי הכי (fourth wide line)
Questions:
  • How does ר”ע & ר’ יצחק explain the פסוק of והפלה?  Learn ריטב”א אי
  • The גמרא asks מ”ט דר”ע. What is the question of the גמרא? In the ברייתא we quoted above ר”ע says his reason? Learn תוס’ ור”ע
  • According to the גמ conclusion that כדי רשעתו is only by  ברשעה המסורה לב”ד what is the דין when the criminal was only warned for מלקות and not מיתה ? Learn תוס’ ברשעה
  • What is the difference between רבא and the original explanation of the ‘גמ of the מחלוקת between ר”ע and ר ‘שמעאל?

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 13B: Mai Taima D’Rabi Yishmael (12/25/2013)

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Quickly review י”ג עמוד ב from מ”ט דר’ ישמעאל until ור’ עקיבא מאי טעמא   (half way down the narrow lines)

Questions:
  • The גמרא asks what’s the reason one receives מלקות according to ר’ ישמעאל.  Why does the גמרא ask this only on  ר’ ישמעאל?
  •  Where is the source of מלקות for violating a לאו according to the other opinions?
  • How does ר”ע & ר’ יצחק explain the פסוק of והפלה ? See ריטב”א אי

Continue learning the גמרא until  רבא אמר (first wide line)

Question:
  • The גמרא asks מ”ט דר”ע. What is the question of the גמרא? In the ברייתא we quoted above ר”ע says his reason? Learn תוס’ ור”ע
  • What is the point of disagreement between ר”ע and ר’ ישמעאל?
Point to ponder:
  • How is מיתה with מלקות a מיתה אריכתא?

Gemara / Makkos / Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim's shiurim

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 13A to 13B: Gemara Chayavei Krisus… (12/23/2013)

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Learn גמרא י”ג from after the משנה thru י”ג עמוד ב until ור’ ישמעאל הני מילי (half way down the עמוד)
Questions:
  • The גמרא asks whats the reason one receives מלקות according to ר’ ישמעאל.  Why does the גמרא ask this only on  ר’ ישמעאל ? Where is the source of מלקות for violating a לאו according to the other opinions?
  • How does ר”ע & ר’ יצחק explain the פסוק of והפלה ? See ריטב”א אי