Category: Halacha

Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה: 

Review ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע which summarizes the halacha of the case of  Rebbe Akiva Eiger whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return but it is still in his hand.

What is the halacha in the cases below? 

Are these cases similar to the case and machlokes between Rebbe Akiva Eiger & Rav Shachris or different?

If it is different is it more of a reason to say it is permissable to return to the bleach or prohibited?  – Why?

1. A pot slides off the blech on to the counter top?

2. A pot slides to the floor?

3. The electricity or fire goes out?

(See אגרות משה או”ח חלק ד ס’ ע”ד בישול אות לא, קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מט והערה סח, שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כז והערה עט, שו”ת בצל החכמה חלק ד ס’ קלז ס”ק יט, אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מט והערה פב)

4. The electricity goes out and a few hours later goes back on by the electric company and the food remained on hot plate the entire time?

See אורחת שבת above)

5. Someone mistakenly takes the Shabbos day cholent off the fire thinking it is the chicken soup pot for the Friday night sueda and places on the counter without intent to return?

What if he places it on the ground?

(See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ גם והערה עה, שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כג והערה עה ,שו”ת בצל החכמה חלק ד ס’ קלז ס”ק יח, אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מה והערה עח)

Write a summary of the laws of chazarah and all it’s conditions based on שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב and the משנה ברורה 

In case of need which conditions do not need to be met?  

Questions:

What are the following surfaces more comparable to – placing on a bed or placing on the floor?

Kitchen countertop, table, refrigerator?

See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מז והערה אות סו 

and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מה והערה עג 

And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה ס -סא

For the condition of עודו בידו does one need to hold the pot in their hands or is placing on the counter and keeping ones hand onto the pot handle sufficient?

Would the same apply if placed the pot on the floor and held onto to the handle? 

See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מו והערה אות סד   

and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מז והערה עו 

And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה סב

In the event someone removed a hot pot from the fire on Friday before Shabbos and placed it on the counter with intent to place on the blech and discovered on Shabbos that he forgot to place on the blech. May he place on the blech on Shabbos?

See אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף נא והערה פד 

Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה: 

Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to 

A) Have specific intent to return, or 

B) As long as there is no specific intent not to return?

What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech onto the countertop, may it be returned to the blech?

If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?

Review ה’ רע”א ס’ רנ”ג אות ו 

What is the reason if someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?

According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?

Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger 

Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע which summarizes the halacha of the case of  Rebbe Akiva Eiger

Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop? 

What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?

See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Aurbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.

Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה:

Review שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב with משנה ברורה

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49

Question:

If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it in the ground is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?

If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and does not have intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand. Is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?

Learn ה’ רע”א ס’ רנ”ג אות ו 

Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע 

Point to consider 

Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to have specific intent to return or as long as do not have specific intent not to return?

What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech onto the countertop, may it be returned to the blech?

If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?

What is the reason if someone removed your pot from the fire on Shabbos and placed it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?

According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?

Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger 

Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop? 

What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?

See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Auerbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.

Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה:

In conclusion – Is it required to have the conditions of עודה בידו and דעתו להחזיר  in order to return pot on to a stovetop?

In the event that a pot was removed from the stovetop and placed on the ground with intent to return, may one return the pot to the fire? 

Review שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

Review משנה ברורה ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק נ”ו, ביאור הלכה “ודעתו להחזיר and שער הציון אות נ 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49

Continue learning the רמ”א ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב  

Focus on the יש אומרים שכל זה אינו אסור  – the chidush of the ר”ן from the ירושלמי 

See משנה ברורה ס”ק סג-סז

Major Question:

Why does the Mishna Berura not permit returning a pot to the fire when it was placed on the ground with intent to return as the Rema says was the accepted practice?  

Can we rely on the ruling of the ר”ן in cases of בדיעבד ?

Learn חזון איש או”ח ס’ ל”ז ס”ק יב

See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כא-כב

And קובץ הלכות פרק כו סעיף מה with footnote סג

Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to have specific intent to return or as long as do not have specific intent not to return.  

What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech on to the counter top, may it be returned to the blech?

If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?

Learn הגהות רע”א על שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג אות ו 

What is the reason if someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?

According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removes from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?

Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger 

Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop? 

What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?

See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Auerbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.

Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה:

In conclusion is it required to have the conditions of עודה בידו and דעתו להחזיר  in order to return pot on to a stovetop?

In the event that a pot was removed from the stovetop and placed on the ground with intent to return, may one return the pot to the fire? 

Review שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

Review משנה ברורה ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק נ”ו, ביאור הלכה “ודעתו להחזיר and שער הציון אות נ 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49

Continue learning the רמ”א ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב  

Focus on the יש אומרים שכל זה אינו אסור  – the chidush of the ר”ן from the ירושלמי 

See משנה ברורה ס”ק סג-סז

Major Question:

Why does the Mishna Berura not permit returning a pot to the fire when it was placed on the ground with intent to return as the Rema says was the accepted practice?  

Can we rely on the ruling of the ר”ן in cases of בדיעבד ?

Learn חזון איש או”ח ס’ ל”ז ס”ק יב

See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כא-כב

And קובץ הלכות פרק כו סעיף מה with footnote סג

Conclusion “גמרא דף לח: “חזרה 

Halachic Conclusion:

How do we rule l’halacha in regards to the conditions of עודה בידו and דעתו להחזיר in order to return pot onto a stovetop as the Gemara lists different opinions whether both, one or none are required? 

In the event that a pot was removed from the stovetop and lacking the condition of either holding on hand or intent to return may one return the pot to the fire? 

Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “לא שנו 

Learn רא”ש ס’ ב last two lines 

Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י 

Learn  טור ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

Learn beginning of שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

What is the ruling of the Mechaber?

What is the ruling of the Rema?

What is the Rema adding by stating the condition of עודה בידו to the Mechaber who says if placed on ground it may not be returned?

Learn משנה ברורה on beginning of סעיף ב 

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Very quickly review the גמרא דף לח: “בעי רב אשי פינה ממיחם למיחם  (line before the Mishna) until the Mishna 

Question:

What is the uncertainty in the case of פינה ממיחם למיחם (transferring the food to a different pot) whether it is permitted to return the second pot to the stove?

Clarify how the explanation of רש”י “פינה is different than תוס’ “פינה 

Major Question:

Tosfos says there is a potential concern when one transfers hot food into a second pot that one might come to stoke the coals.  How could there be a חשש שמא יחתה when we are dealing with a stove that is גרוף וקטום?

Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “בעי רב אשי for an additional two answers 

How are the two explanations of the Ran different than each other?

How are the two explanations of the Ran different than Tosfos? 

According to the Ran what is the Halacha in regards to returning the second kettle to the fire. Is it permitted or prohibited?

Halachic Conclusion:

What is the halachik conclusion of פינה ממיחם למיחם ?

May one transfer the contents of a Crock-Pot into a second pot and return the second pot to the fire?

See טור ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

See beginning of שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב 

Learn מגן אברהם ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק כ

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And ה’ רע”א אות ז

Is the note of Rebbe Akiva Eiger arguing on the Magen Avraham or explaining the Magen Avraham?

Learn משנה ברורה ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק נה 

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And שער הציון אות מז

The Ran says if one returns the contents back to the original pot it is possibly prohibited to return the pot to the fire as it is considered he placed the pot on the ground when placing it into the second pot. Why would this reasoning not prohibit returning the second pot itself to the fire?

See קובץ הלכות פרק כו הערה עג

According to the Mishna Berura is it permitted if the water is placed into a cup and then poured into the Crock-Pot?

See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א הערה מט

According to the Magen Avraham is it permitted to add hot water directly from a hot water urn into a crock pot? 

See תוס’ דף לח: פינה 

Review the גמרא דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud) until the Mishna 

Questions:

What is the reason why if the pot is placed on the ground it would be prohibited to return the food to the stove?

See רש”י “אבל הניח על גבי קרקע 

What is the uncertainty in the case of פינה ממיחם למיחם (transferring the food to a different pot) whether it is permitted to return the second pot to the stove?

See רש”י “פינה

Learn תוס’ “פינה who asks a question from Gemara in the fourth perek. 

See תוס’ ישנים answer from the רשב”א 

Major Question:

Tosfos says there is a potential concern when one transfers hot food into a second pot that one might come to stoke the coals.  How could there be a חשש שמא יחצה when we are dealing with a stove that is גרוף וקטום?

Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “בעי רב אשי for an additional two answers 

How are the two explanations of the Ran different than each other?

How are the two explanations of the Ran different than Tosfos? 

Halachic Conclusion: for שהייה

One is permitted to leave a lot of food on stovetop that is not  גרוף וקטום if one places a raw piece of meat inside the pot shortly before Shabbos.

What is the cutoff point for it to be considered raw and not yet started cooking 

When one accepts Shabbos or shkia?

What is considered מאכל בן דרוסאי half way cooked or half time of cooking? 

I will send sources later see igros Moshe and chazon ish and shemiras Shabbos 

Halachic Conclusion: for שהייה

One is permitted to leave a lot of food on stovetop that is not  גרוף וקטום if one places a raw piece of meat inside the pot shortly before Shabbos.

What is the cutoff point for it to be considered raw and not yet started cooking 

When one accepts Shabbos or shkia?

What is considered מאכל בן דרוסאי half way cooked or half time of cooking? 

I will send sources later see igros Moshe and chazon ish and shemiras Shabbos 

Halachic conclusion הלכות שהייה

How do we conclude lhalacha? Do we rule like Rabanan or like Chanania?

Review שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סע’ א which brings two opinions.

Question:

According to which opinion does the מחבר conclude? 

Bring a proof 

Learn the Mishna Berura 

Is the רמ”א concluding the halcha is in accordance with Chanania or saying that if one follows the accepted Minhag like Chanania it is Ok, but really should follow like Rabanan?

Learn ביאור הלכה “ונהגו להקל כסברא אחרונה And הגהות חזון איש on the ביאור הלכה who argue what is the ruling of the רא”ש 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=45

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=46

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=47

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=48

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49

Halachic conclusion הלכות שהייה

How do we conclude lhalacha? Do we rule like Rabanan or like Chanania?

Complete learning the רא”ש פרק ג’ ס’ א who presents a lengthy discussion on the different opinions and how we conclude lhalacha. 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=350

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=351

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=352

The רא”ש first brings the ruling of the רי”ף who rules like the Rabanan and all of the proofs of the רי”ף. (We went through most of those proofs when we learnt the  רי”ף)   The רא”ש then brings the opinion of רש”י and the ר”י who rules like Chanania. 

The רא”ש then quotes the בעל המאור who also rules like Chanania and refutes all the proofs of the רי”ף (we learnt some of the refutations in the ר”ן) 

The רא”ש then brings ר’ יהודה הברצלוני & שאילתות דרב אחאי גאון who rule like the רי”ף and goes through each refutation of the בעל המאור and explains why it is not a valid refutation. 

In conclusion the רא”ש says “ובשביל שרבו דעות בהאי פיסקא “

Questions: 

What is the רא”ש halachic conclusion? Does he rule like Chanania or really  rules like the Rabanan just says one can not object  to those who follow the ruling of Chanania?

Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה ד  

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=16

Does the Rambam rule like the Rabanan or like Chanania?

How do we conclude lhalacha?

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סע’ א which brings two opinions how to rule. 

According to which opinion does the מחבר conclude? 

Bring a proof 

Learn Mishna Berura 

Is the רמ”א concluding to like Chanania or saying that if one follows the accepted Minhag like Chanania it is Ok, but really should follow like Rabanan?

Learn ביאור הלכה “ונהגו להקל כסברא אחרונה And הגהות חזון איש on the ביאור הלכה who argue what is the ruling of the רא”ש 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=45

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=46

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=47

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=48

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49

Halachic conclusion הלכות שהייה

How do we conclude lhalacha? Do we rule like Rabanan or like Chanania?

Complete learning the רא”ש פרק ג’ ס’ א who presents a lengthy discussion on the different opinions and how we conclude lhalacha. 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=350

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=351

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=352

The רא”ש first brings the ruling of the רי”ף who rules like the Rabanan and all of the proofs of the רי”ף. (We went through most of those proofs when we learnt the  רי”ף)   The רא”ש then brings the opinion of רש”י and the ר”י who rules like Chanania. 

The רא”ש then quotes the בעל המאור who also rules like Chanania and refutes all the proofs of the רי”ף (we learnt some of the refutations in the ר”ן) 

The רא”ש then brings ר’ יהודה הברצלוני & שאילתות דרב אחאי גאון who rule like the רי”ף and goes through each refutation of the בעל המאור and explains why it is not a valid refutation. 

In conclusion the רא”ש says “ובשביל שרבו דעות בהאי פיסקא “

Questions: 

What is the רא”ש halachic conclusion? Does he rule like Chanania or really  rules like the Rabanan just says one can not object  to those who follow the ruling of Chanania?

Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה ד  

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=16

Does the Rambam rule like the Rabanan or like Chanania?

How do we conclude lhalacha?

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סע’ א which brings two opinions how to rule. 

According to which opinion does the מחבר conclude? 

Bring a proof 

Learn Mishna Berura 

Is the רמ”א concluding to like Chanania or saying that if one follows the accepted Minhag like Chanania it is Ok, but really should follow like Rabanan?

Learn ביאור הלכה “ונהגו להקל כסברא אחרונה And הגהות חזון איש on the ביאור הלכה who argue what is the ruling of the רא”ש 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=45

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=46

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=47

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=48

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49

Quickly review  משנה דף לח: “תנור (middle of the Amud) and the Gemara until the next Mishna 

Questions:

In conclusion what is the Halacha of a תנור in regards to שהייה and חזרה?

How do we conclude lhalacha? Do we rule like Rabanan or like Chanania?

Learn רא”ש for lengthy discussion on the different opinions how we conclude lhalacha 

Quickly review  משנה דף לח: “תנור (middle of the Amud) and the Gemara until the next Mishna 

Questions:

Is the Mishna in accordance with the opinion of חנניא or the רבנן?

Learn תוס’ “תנור

What would the halacha be for a תנור if the Mishna is להשהות תנן?

Learn תוס’ ישנם on side of Tosfos 

Why does תוס’ ישנם say that a קדרה חייתא should be prohibited to leave on a תנור according to the Rabanan?

Learn גליון הש”ס on side of Tosfos which asks two major questions on Tosfos