Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Morning Kollel: גמרא שבת – פרק שלישי – פרק כירה מב: – כלי שני – מחזי כמבשל (05/08/25)
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Category: Shabbos
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Wednesday night shiur, Iyar 10 Daf 38b (05/07/25)
Halachic conclusion הלכות שהייה
How do we conclude lhalacha? Do we rule like Rabanan or like Chanania?
Complete learning the רא”ש פרק ג’ ס’ א who presents a lengthy discussion on the different opinions and how we conclude lhalacha.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=350
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=351
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=352
The רא”ש first brings the ruling of the רי”ף who rules like the Rabanan and all of the proofs of the רי”ף. (We went through most of those proofs when we learnt the רי”ף) The רא”ש then brings the opinion of רש”י and the ר”י who rules like Chanania.
The רא”ש then quotes the בעל המאור who also rules like Chanania and refutes all the proofs of the רי”ף (we learnt some of the refutations in the ר”ן)
The רא”ש then brings ר’ יהודה הברצלוני & שאילתות דרב אחאי גאון who rule like the רי”ף and goes through each refutation of the בעל המאור and explains why it is not a valid refutation.
In conclusion the רא”ש says “ובשביל שרבו דעות בהאי פיסקא “
Questions:
What is the רא”ש halachic conclusion? Does he rule like Chanania or really rules like the Rabanan just says one can not object to those who follow the ruling of Chanania?
Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=16
Does the Rambam rule like the Rabanan or like Chanania?
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סע’ א which brings two opinions how to rule.
According to which opinion does the מחבר conclude?
Bring a proof
Learn Mishna Berura
Is the רמ”א concluding to like Chanania or saying that if one follows the accepted Minhag like Chanania it is Ok, but really should follow like Rabanan?
Learn ביאור הלכה “ונהגו להקל כסברא אחרונה And הגהות חזון איש on the ביאור הלכה who argue what is the ruling of the רא”ש
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=45
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=46
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=47
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=48
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום רביעי, Iyar 9 Daf 39a (05/07/25)
Review the final conclusion of the משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק לז and ביאור הלכה “והדחתן why it is permitted to soak or rinse an inedible salty fish in order to make it edible and not be in violation of מכה בפטיש.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=274
Questions:
Does Rashi understand the violation of rinsing an old salted fish with hot water is בישול or מכה בפטיש?
Bring a proof from Rashi
Can one soak an uncooked food in a כלי שני?
Can one rinse an uncooked food by pouring directly on it from a כלי ראשון?
Learn תוס’ דף לט. “כל
The Mishna gave a rule that if a food was cooked before Shabbos it is permitted to soak it in hot water of a כלי ראשון on Shabbos to reheat the food.
Is it permitted if the food originally was just soaked in a כלי ראשון and not cooked over a fire?
See Rashi on the משנה דף קמה עמ’ ב
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=145b&format=pdf
Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק כב הלכה ח
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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שלישי, Iyar 8 Daf 39a (05/06/25)
Questions:
What melacha of Shabbos is a person violating when rinsing old salted fish and Spanish mackerel?
Is it permitted to rinse old salted fish and Spanish mackerel with cold water to help make it edible?
We learnt the פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס”ק טז & לבוש ס’ שי”ח סע’ ד who says it is prohibited as it is considered מכה בפטיש
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9223&st=&pgnum=54
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&st=&pgnum=203
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=154
Review משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק לז and ביאור הלכה “והדחתן and see the proofs he brings that there is no מכה בפטיש on food.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=274
Bring a proof from Rashi
Learn תוס’ דף לט. “כל
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Monday night shiur, Iyar 8 Daf 38b (05/05/25)
Halachic conclusion הלכות שהייה
How do we conclude lhalacha? Do we rule like Rabanan or like Chanania?
Complete learning the רא”ש פרק ג’ ס’ א who presents a lengthy discussion on the different opinions and how we conclude lhalacha.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=350
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=351
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=352
The רא”ש first brings the ruling of the רי”ף who rules like the Rabanan and all of the proofs of the רי”ף. (We went through most of those proofs when we learnt the רי”ף) The רא”ש then brings the opinion of רש”י and the ר”י who rules like Chanania.
The רא”ש then quotes the בעל המאור who also rules like Chanania and refutes all the proofs of the רי”ף (we learnt some of the refutations in the ר”ן)
The רא”ש then brings ר’ יהודה הברצלוני & שאילתות דרב אחאי גאון who rule like the רי”ף and goes through each refutation of the בעל המאור and explains why it is not a valid refutation.
In conclusion the רא”ש says “ובשביל שרבו דעות בהאי פיסקא “
Questions:
What is the רא”ש halachic conclusion? Does he rule like Chanania or really rules like the Rabanan just says one can not object to those who follow the ruling of Chanania?
Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=16
Does the Rambam rule like the Rabanan or like Chanania?
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סע’ א which brings two opinions how to rule.
According to which opinion does the מחבר conclude?
Bring a proof
Learn Mishna Berura
Is the רמ”א concluding to like Chanania or saying that if one follows the accepted Minhag like Chanania it is Ok, but really should follow like Rabanan?
Learn ביאור הלכה “ונהגו להקל כסברא אחרונה And הגהות חזון איש on the ביאור הלכה who argue what is the ruling of the רא”ש
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=45
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=46
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=47
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=48
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Morning Kollel: גמרא שבת – פרק שלישי – פרק כירה מב. – עירוי כלי ראשון (05/02/25)
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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום חמישי, Iyar 3 Daf 39a (05/01/25)
Questions:
What melacha of Shabbos is a person violating when rinsing old salted fish and Spanish mackerel?
Is it permitted to rinse old salted fish and Spanish mackerel with cold water to help make it edible?
Learn ט”ז ס’ שי”ח ס”ק ה’ & פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס”ק טז & לבוש ס’ שי”ח סע’ ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9223&st=&pgnum=54
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&st=&pgnum=203
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=154
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק לו and ביאור הלכה “חוץ & “והדחתן
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=274
Why or why not?
Bring a proof from Rashi
Learn תוס’ דף לט. “כל
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Wednesday night shiur, Iyar 3 Daf 38b (04/30/25)
Quickly review משנה דף לח: “תנור (middle of the Amud) and the Gemara until the next Mishna
Questions:
In conclusion what is the Halacha of a תנור in regards to שהייה and חזרה?
How do we conclude lhalacha? Do we rule like Rabanan or like Chanania?
Learn רא”ש for lengthy discussion on the different opinions how we conclude lhalacha
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום רביעי, Iyar 2 Daf 38b – 39a (04/30/25)
Very quickly review the גמרא דף לח עמוד ב (on bottom of the Amud) until דף לט (two dots)
Question:
At one point in the cooking process does a person violate the melacha of cooking on Shabbos?
See גמרא דף ד. “אמר רב ביבי בר אביי הדביק פת בתנור (six lines before the wide lines) until the two dots.
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=4&format=pdf
See ראש יוסף על משנה דף לח עמ’ ב
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40668&st=&pgnum=149
See משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח סוף ס”ק א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=271
What melacha of Shabbos is a person violating when rinsing old salted fish and Spanish mackerel?
Is it permitted to rinse old salted fish and Spanish mackerel with cold water to help make it edible?
Learn ט”ז ס’ שי”ח ס”ק ה’ & פרי מגדים אשל אברהם ס”ק טז & לבוש ס’ שי”ח סע’ ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9223&st=&pgnum=54
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&st=&pgnum=203
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=154
Learn משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח ס”ק לו and ביאור הלכה “חוץ & “והדחתן
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=274
Why or why not?
Bring a proof from Rashi
Learn תוס’ דף לט. “כל
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שלישי, Rosh Chodesh Iyar Daf 38b – 39a (04/29/25)
Gut Chodesh,
Review משנה דף לח עמוד ב (on bottom of the Amud)
Learn the Gemara until דף לט (two dots)
What is the question גלגל מאי. What does the Gemara want to know?
Learn ר”ן
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=585
Learn ריטב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40905&st=&pgnum=17
Learn חידושי ר”ן for a different explanation in the question of the Gemara.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40873&st=&pgnum=48
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40873&st=&pgnum=49
At one point in the cooking process does a person violate the melacha of cooking on Shabbos?
See גמרא דף ד. “אמר רב ביבי בר אביי הדביק פת בתנור (six lines before the wide lines) until the two dots.
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=4&format=pdf
See ראש יוסף על משנה דף לח עמ’ ב
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40668&st=&pgnum=149
See משנה ברורה ס’ שי”ח סוף ס”ק א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=271
Learn משנה דף קמה:”כל שבא בחמין
What is the proof the Gemara wants to bring from this Mishna?
What melacha of Shabbos is a person violating when rinsing old salted fish and Spanish mackerel?
Is it permitted to rinse old salted fish and Spanish mackerel with cold water to help make it edible?
Why or why not?
Bring a proof from Rashi
Learn תוס’ דף לט. “כל
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Monday night shiur Rosh Chodesh Iyar Daf 38b (04/28/25)
Quickly review משנה דף לח: “תנור (middle of the Amud) and the Gemara until the next Mishna
Questions:
Is the Mishna in accordance with the opinion of חנניא or the רבנן?
Learn תוס’ “תנור
What would the halacha be for a תנור if the Mishna is להשהות תנן?
Learn תוס’ ישנם on side of Tosfos
Why does תוס’ ישנם say that a קדרה חייתא should be prohibited to leave on a תנור according to the Rabanan?
Learn גליון הש”ס on side of Tosfos which asks two major questions on Tosfos
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שני, Rosh Chodesh Iyar Daf 38b – 39a (04/28/25)
Learn משנה דף לח עמוד ב (on bottom of the Amud)
Learn the Gemara until דף לט (two dots)
What is the question גלגל מאי. What does the Gemara want to know?
Learn ר”ן
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=585
& ריטב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40905&st=&pgnum=17
Learn חידושי ר”ן for a different explanation in the question of the Gemara.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40873&st=&pgnum=48
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40873&st=&pgnum=49
Learn “משנה דף קמה עמוד ב “כל שבא בחמין
What is the proof the Gemara wants to bring from this Mishna?
What melacha of Shabbos is person violating when rinsing old salted fish and Spanish mackerel?
Learn “תוס’ דף לט. “כל
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Wednesday night shiur Adar 26, Daf 38b (03/26/25)
Learn משנה דף לח: “תנור (middle of the Amud) and the Gemara until the next Mishna
Questions:
Why is it prohibited to leave food on a תנור that is fueled with קש & גבבא when they don’t produce coal to have a concern of שמא יחתה?
May one leave food on a תנור if they are גרוף וקטום the items burning inside a תנור?
Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה ה & ו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=17&hilite=
Where does the Rambam know that גרוף וקטום will not help for a תנור ?
Learn כסף משנה הלכה ה
Why does קטום not help for a תנור – placing the ash on the coals indicates that he is not interested in increasing the heat?
Learn ערוך השולחן אורח חיים ס’ רנ”ג סע’ ה’ & ו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=67694&st=&pgnum=43
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=67694&st=&pgnum=44
Is the Mishna in accordance with the opinion of חנניא or the רבנן?
Learn תוס’ “תנור
What would the halacha be for a תנור if the Mishna is להשהות תנן?
Learn תוס’ ישנם on side of Tosfos
Why does תוס’ ישנם say that a קדרה חייתא should be prohibited to leave on a תנור according to the Rabanan?
Learn גליון הש”ס on side of Tosfos which asks two major questions on Tosfos
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שני, Adar 24, Daf 38b – Hilchos Shehiya (03/24/25)
Halachik Conclusion:
Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=16
Does the Rambam rule like the Rabanan or like Chanania?
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סע’ א which brings two opinions how to rule. See how the רמ”א concludes.
According to which opinion does the מחבר conclude?
Bring a proof
Learn Mishna Berura
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=45
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=46
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=47
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=48
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Morning Kollel: גמרא שבת – פרק שלישי – פרק כירה מב: 1. להניח מים אצל מדורה 2. בישול בפירות חיים, מים, ושמן (03/18/25)
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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שלישי, Adar 18, Daf 38b (03/18/25)
Halachik Conclusion:
Finish learning the second half of the רא”ש פרק ג ס’ א starting from “ומה שהביא ראה לפסוק כחנניא” (in middle of right coloumn in link below)
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=351
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=352
Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=16
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סע’ א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=45
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=46
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=47
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=48
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שני, Adar 17, Daf 38b (03/17/25)
Halachik Conclusion:
Learn רא”ש פרק ג ס’ א who brings the different opinions whether we rule like Rabanan or like חנניא
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=350
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=351
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=352
Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה ד
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סע’ א
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Third Perek – Monday night shiur Adar 18, Daf 38a-38b (03/17/25)
Learn the גמרא דף לח. “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud) until דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud)
Questions:
What is the chidush of רב ששת and רב אושיע that Beis Hillel permits חזרה even on Shabbos?
How does Rashi address this? (Breakdown the three components of Rashi)
Learn תוס’ דף לח: “אפילו
Learn תוס’ דף לו: “וב”ה אומרים אף מחזירין
How does Tosfos address this?
Learn תוס’ דף לח: “פינה
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שלישי , Adar 11, Daf 38b (03/11/25)
Halachik Conclusion:
List the proofs the Rif brings as to why he concludes lhalacha in accordance with the רבנן?
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=580
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=581
List how the Ran refutes all the proofs of the Rif.
See new source – Learn ר”ן דף טז. דפי הריף “ומנא לן
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=581
Learn the רא”ש who brings the different opinions whether we rule like Rabanan or like chanania
Learn רא”ש פרק ג ס’ א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=350
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=351
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=352
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום שני , Adar 10, Daf 38b (03/10/25)
Halachik Conclusion:
List the proofs the Rif brings as to why he concludes lhalacha in accordance with the רבנן?
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=580
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=581
List how the Ran refutes all the proofs of the Rif.
Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “ונמצאו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=582
Learn the רא”ש who brings the different opinions whether we rule like Rabanan or like chanania
Learn רא”ש פרק ג ס’ א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=350
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=351
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=352
Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah, יום חמישי, Shevat 22 Daf 38b (02/20/25)
Review גמרא דף לח: (middle of the Amud) until the next Mishna
Questions:
Is the Mishna in accordance with the opinion of חנניא or the רבנן?
Learn תוס’ “תנור
What would the halacha be in reverse to a תנור. If the Mishna is להשהות תנן
Learn תוס’ ישנם on side of Tosfos
Why does תוס’ ישנם say that a קדרה חייתא should be prohibited to leave on a תנור according to the Rabanan?
Learn גליון הש”ס on side of Tosfos which asks two major questions on Tosfos
Learn תוס’ “אילימא
How do we conclude lhalacha in accordance with the opinion of חנניא or the רבנן?
Learn ריף beginning of the third Perek
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Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “ונמצאו
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