Gemara – Page 54

Why doesn’t the Gemara open with a similar question that it asked on Lulav on דף מב asking why Aravah is not taken on the first six days of Sukkos when it coincides with Shabbos?

The Gemara says Aravah is permitted to be taken on Shabbos when it coincides with Hoshana Rabbah because שלוחי בית דין מייתי לה

Is this a retraction from the first reason of לפרסום שהיא מן התורה?

Learn ריטב”א “ומהדרינן

See מהרש”א

How does the fact that שלוחי בית דין מייתי לה agents of the court bring the aravos avoid the concern of someone carrying an Aravah on Shabbos?

The Gemara ask “Why don’t we post Churban Beis Hamikdash take the Aravah on hoshana Rabbah when it coincides Shabbos”

What is the logic to permit this as our practice is that everyone takes the Aravah not just שלוחי בית דין and therefore the גזירה דרבה is applicable and we should be concerned someone might carry the Aravah?

Learn תוספת מג: “שלוחי

Learn ריטב”א who gives a different explanation than Rashi and Tosfos

Question on Rashi:

Rashi explains the opening question of the gemara is based on גזירה דרבה. How could the gemara than offer the explanation of גזירה דרבה when explaining why Lulav is not taken on Shabbos as this is already known?

The Gemara says Aravah is taken only one specific day of Sukkos that coincides with Shabbos as if it would be taken any of the seven days of Sukkos that coincides with Shabbos “אתי לפקפוקי בלולב”

See Rashi for one explanation

See ריטב”א “אי הכי כל who gives different explanation

According to the opinion that taking Aravah post churban is just a minhag and not even a mitzvah from the Rabanan why would we have permission to take them on Shabbos as the Aravos are muktzah?

See ריטב”א “ופרכינן אי הכי for an answer.

The Gemara answers “Because we are not experts to calculate the precise day of Yom Tov that’s why we can’t take aravos on Hoshana Rabbah that coincides with Shabbos.”

What’s the major concern even if hoshana Rabbah is really the sixth day of Sukkos there is no issue with taking the Aravah as the Gemara said in essence one should be permitted to take Aravah every day of Sukkos to publicize that it’s a mitzvah from the Torah just we don’t to prevent people from treating the mitzvah of Lulav lightly?

Link to ריטב”א on the entire Gemara who addresses many of these questions

https://www.sefaria.org/Ritva_on_Sukkah.43b.1?lang=bi

Continue learning the Gemara until איתיביה אביי (middle of the Amud)

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Today’s plan is to conclude the explanation of the Rambam in regards to צורת הפתח on an opening wider than 10 Amos which is פרוץ מרובה.

How does the Shulchan Aruch rule in regards to צורת הפתח on an opening wider than 10 Amos?

Openings which are פרוץ מרובה which are less than 10 Amos wide?

Openings which are פרוץ מרובה which are wider than 10 Amos?

Learn שולחן ארוך או”ח ס’ שס”ב סעיף י and the משנה ברורה

Is an עירוב constructed entirely from צורת הפתח from all four sides valid?

Learn ביאור הלכה “כשכל

Learn ביאור הלכה “ולהרמב”ם for a new explanation of the Rambam and answer to the questions we asked on the Rambam the last few days.

Complete learning the ר’ חיים, רמב”ם ה’ שבת ט”ז, ט”ז

In conclusion what is ר’ חיים explanation for the Rambam

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=61915&st=&pgnum=39&hilite=

Learn גמרא דף יא: “גופא (tenth wide line) until “אשכחיה רב ששת ” (seven lines before the next Mishnah)

The gemara lists three halachos in regards to a צורת הפתח

1. The strength of the צורת הפתח

2. Requirement to have a היכר ציר – a hole to place the peg for the door

3. Whether the side posts need to extend all the way until the horizontal cross beam/string

How do we rule l’halacha?

Learn שולחן ארוך או”ח ס’ שס”ב סעיף יא and the משנה ברורה ס”ק ס – סג and ס”ק סו

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Eruvin: First Perek, יום שלישי Sivan 24, Daf 11a-11b (06/13/23)

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Quickly review רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק טז הלכה טז

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We asked the two following questions on the Rambam

1. The Rambam concludes that each situation individually a צורת הפתח is valid. However when both are combined in a case of an opening wider than 10 Amos and פרוץ מרובה על העומד than it is disqualified.

If each situation independently is valid, why is the combination deadly?

2. Our Gemara said the source to disqualify a צורת הפתח when there are more openings than closures – פרוץ מרובה על העומד is from the halacha of Rav who rules a צורת הפתח can not close an opening wider than 10 Amos. Since the Rambam concludes a צורת הפתח is valid on an opening wider than 10 Amos where is the source to disqualify it when there is פרוץ מרובה על העומד ?

Learn מגיד משנה for an answer

Learn ר’ חיים על הרמב”ם שבת טז, טז who gives fundamental principles in Hilchos Mechitzas

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Breakdown the ר’ חיים to segments

1. The two aspects of a צורת הפתח

2. How a צורת הפתח on an opening is better than without one even when the opening is less than 10 Amos

3. The bearing עומד מרובה has to the opening in the mechitza.

4. The difference between a solid mechitza and a צורת הפתח which acts as a mechitza.

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Rabbi Eliyahu Zimmerman: Gemara Megillah – 3rd Perek – HaKorei Omed – Daf 23a (06/12/23)

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June 12, 2023

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Rabbi Yerachmiel Hamburger: Kinyan Hamesechta – Gemara Taanis – Second Perek 16a: Amar Rav Ada bar Ahava… (06/12/23)

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June 12, 2023

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Monday night shiur, Sivan 24, Daf 43a (06/12/23)

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Very quickly review the דף מג. “דאיתיה בגבולין (fifteen lines from top of the Amud) until “וסוכה גופא מנלן” (thirteen lines from bottom of the Amud)

Question: Are the disqualifications of the Daled Minim in the Beis Hamikdash all seven days the same as those of the first day of Sukkos?

There is an argument between Tosfos and the Ramban whether the requirement of לכם – to own the Daled Minim – applies for the Daled Minim for the entire Sukkos in the Beis Hamikdash

See תוספת דף כט: “בעינן

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=29b&format=pdf

See ריטב”א beginning of the third Perek

https://www.sefaria.org/Ritva_on_Sukkah.29b?lang=bi

See ביכורי יעקב ס’ תרנ”ח ס”ק א for a lengthy discussion how one can fulfill mitzvah from the Torah of Daled Minim all seven days of Sukkos

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49325&st=&pgnum=68

Question:

Is there any current practical application of the halacha requirements of Daled Minim in the Beis Hamikdash all seven days of Sukkos even though we don’t have a Beis Hamikdash?

See Mishna .דף מא

Rashi on the Mishna

And פירוש משניות לרמב”ם on the Mishna who argue what area is considered מקדש

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=487

And רמב״ם הלכות שופר פרק ב הלכה ח https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=262&hilite=

And רמב״ם הלכות בית הבחירה פרק ו הלכה יד-טו וראב”ד שם

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&st=&pgnum=16

See ביכורי יעקב ס’ תרנ”ח ס”ק א for a lengthy discussion how one can fulfill mitzvah from the Torah of Daled Minim all seven days of Sukkos

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49325&st=&pgnum=68

Please spend time this morning to write a summary of the above Sugya.

Learn גמרא דף מג. “וסוכה גופא מנלן (thirteen lines from bottom of Amud) until the two dots on דף מג עמוד ב

Continue learning the Gemara until איתיביה אביי (middle of the Amud)

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June 12, 2023

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Eruvin: First Perek, יום שני Sivan 23, Daf 11a-11b (06/12/23)

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Halachic Conclusion:

How do we conclude l’halacha regarding;

Placing a צורת הפתח on an opening wider than 10 Amos?

Placing a צורת הפתח on multiple openings which are פרוץ מרובה על העומד and less than 10 Amos ?

Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק טז הלכה טז

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=70

Major Question:

The Rambam concludes that each situation individually a צורת הפתח is valid. However when both are combined in a case of an opening wider than 10 Amos and פרוץ מרובה על העומד than it is disqualified.

If each situation independently is valid, why is the combination deadly?

Our Gemara said the source to disqualify a צורת הפתח when there are more openings than closures – פרוץ מרובה על העומד is from the halacha of Rav who rules a צורת הפתח can not close an opening wider than 10 Amos. Since the Rambam concludes a צורת הפתח is valid on an opening wider than 10 Amos where is the source to disqualify it when there is פרוץ מרובה על העומד ?

Learn מגיד משנה for an answer

Learn ר’ חיים על הרמב”ם שבת טז, טז who gives fundamental principles in Hilchos Mechitzas

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June 8, 2023

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Rabbi Avraham Meisels: Gemara Avodah Zarah – Fourth Perek – Daf 61a: Tosfos d”h Hamitaher Yeino shel Ovdei Kochavim (06/08/23)

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Mareh Mekomos

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The גמרא דף יא until the two dots on דף יא עמוד ב brings the opinion of רב that a צורת הפתח can not close an opening wider than 10 Amos.

Rav Yosef understands that רב would also disqualify multiple צורת הפתח on openings less than 10 Amos if there are more openings than closures – פרוץ מרובה על העומד. The Gemara tries to prove this position but is unsuccessful.

The Gemara also attempts to bring a proof that ר’ יוחנן agrees to the opinion of רב that a צורת הפתח can not close an opening wider than 10 Amos but does not have a source.

How do we conclude l’halacha?

Learn ח’ ר”ן דף יא: “לעולם

Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק טז הלכה טז

Note how the Ramabam rules

Major Question:

The Rambam concludes that each situation individually a צורת הפתח is valid. However when both are combined in a case of an opening wider than 10 Amos and פרוץ מרובה על העומד than it is disqualified.

If each situation independently is valid, why is the combination deadly?

Our Gemara said the source to disqualify a צורת הפתח when there are more openings than closures – פרוץ מרובה על העומד is from the halacha of Rav who rules a צורת הפתח can not close an opening wider than 10 Amos. Since the Rambam concludes a צורת הפתח is valid on an opening wider than 10 Amos where is the source to disqualify it when there is פרוץ מרובה על העומד ?

Learn מגיד משנה for an answer

Learn ר’ חיים על הרמב”ם שבת טז, טז who gives fundamental principles in Hilchos Mechitzas

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June 7, 2023

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Rabbi Eliyahu Zimmerman: Gemara Megillah – 3rd Perek – HaKorei Omed – Daf 23a (06/07/23)

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June 7, 2023

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June 7, 2023

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Wednesday night shiur, Sivan 19, Daf 43a (06/07/23)

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Topic: The mitzvah of Daled Minim in Beis Hamikdash and the rest of the world.

Learn the דף מג. “דאיתיה בגבולין (fifteen lines from top of the Amud) until “וסוכה גופא מנלן” (thirteen lines from bottom of the Amud)

Question on “רש”י “אלא ראשון:

Why should the fact that the Mitzvah of Daled Minim on the second – seventh day of Sukkos is only in the Beis Hamikdash be a reason that the Rabanan should allow a gezeira to not perform the Mitzvah?

Learn תוספת “הא

Chakirah: Is the mitzvah of Daled Minim all seven days of Sukkos in the Beis Hamikdash – an extension of the Mitzvah of Daled Minim of the first day obligation everywhere or an independent mitzvah? Think of a נפקא מינה between the two options

Learn בעל המאור “אי הכי (first one on fourth Perek)

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=624

Note: how the בעל המאור explains different than תוספת “הא and avoids the major question we asked on Tosfos

How could Tosfos suggest limiting the Daled Minim for the seven days of Sukkos which coincide with Shabbos to one’s home? The only mitzvah for the rest of Sukkos is in the Beis Hamikdash?

Learn עמק ברכה ה’ לולב אות א “וסוכה מג for an answer

Bring a proof to the chakirah

1. from the Gemara

2. from “רש”י “אלא ראשון

See מנחת חינוך מצוה שכד ס”ק א

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14092&st=&pgnum=164

See עמק ברכה ה’ לולב אות א

Question: Are the disqualifications of the Daled Minim in the Beis Hamikdash all seven days the same as those of the first day of Sukkos?

There is an argument between Tosfos and the Ramban whether the requirement of לכם – to own the Daled Minim – applies for the Daled Minim for the entire Sukkos in the Beis Hamikdash

See תוספת דף כט: “בעינן

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=29b&format=pdf

See ריטב”א beginning of the third Perek

https://www.sefaria.org/Ritva_on_Sukkah.29b?lang=bi

See ביכורי יעקב ס’ תרנ”ח ס”ק א for a lengthy discussion how one can fulfill mitzvah from the Torah of Daled Minim all seven days of Sukkos

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49325&st=&pgnum=68

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