Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Morning Kollel: גמרא שבת – פרק שלישי – פרק כירה לח: טעמא דחזרה (11/07/24)
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Very quickly review the גמרא דף לח. “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud) until דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud)
List the two different explanations (Rashi & Tosfos) of the chidush of Rav Sheshes and Rav Oshia that Beis Hillel permits חזרה even on Shabbos.
Review תוס’ דף לו: “וב”ה אומרים אף מחזירין (first half of Tosfos)
Questions:
According to Tosfos opinion that Beis Shamai prohibits Chazarah even on Friday
Why is it prohibited to return food to the fire on Friday?
Is it prohibited to return food to the stove the entire Friday?
Why does Beis Shammai prohibit Chazara even on a stove that is גרוף וקטום ?
See רש”י דף לו: “לא מחזירין
According to Chanania it is permitted to leave food that is half way cooked on a stove that is not גרוף וקטום. Yet in regards to chazarah Beis Hillel only permits Chazara on a stove that is גרוף וקטום. Why?
Learn ח’ ר”ן דף לו: “אין מחזירין
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=580
Continue learning the גמרא דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud) until the Mishna
Review the גמרא דף לח. “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud) until דף לח: “א”ר זריקא (seven lines from the top of the Amud)
Questions:
What is the chidush of Rav Sheshes and Rav Oshia that Beis Hillel permits חזרה even on Shabbos?
How does Rashi address this? (Breakdown the three components of Rashi)
Learn תוס’ דף לח: “אפילו
Learn תוס’ דף לו: “וב”ה אומרים אף מחזירין
How does Tosfos address this?
Learn the גמרא דף לח. “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud) until the Mishna דף לח עמוד ב
Learn תוס’ דף לח: “אפילו
Learn תוס’ דף לח: “פינה
Continue learning the גמרא דף נו עמוד ב from the two dots until the Mishna
Learn the משנה דף נו and the גמרא דף נו until the two dots on דף נו עמוד ב
Question:
What is the reason that the Mishmar that is leaving gets an equal portion of lechem panim when yom tov and Shabbos follow each other?
See Rashi
Learn רמב”ם ה’ תמידין פרק ד הלכה יב who gives a different explanation than Rashi.
See ה’ ראב”ד who asks on the Rambam and the ה’ רדב”ז and כסף משנה who explains the Rambam
Which Mishmar receives two challos from the lechem hapanim when there is one day in between yom tov and shabbos? Why?
See Rashi
Learn רמב”ם ה’ תמידין פרק ד הלכה יג who explains the Gemara entirely different than Rashi
See ה’ ראב”ד who asks on the Rambam and the ה’ רדב”ז and כסף משנה who explains the Rambam
Write a summary of the four explanations we discussed last week of the question of the Gemara עבר ושהה מהו
Rashi
Tosfos
Rosh – explanation #1
Rosh – explanation #2
Learn ריף & ר”ן דף לח. “והיכא דעבר for another explanation.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=582
Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה ט and the ראב”ד on the side of the רמב”ם
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=17
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14278&st=&pgnum=18
Learn רשב”א “הא דאיבעיא for another explanation of the Gemara.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=57
Learn the גמרא דף לח. “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud) until the Mishna דף לח עמוד ב
Learn תוס’ דף לח: “אפילו
Learn תוס’ דף לח: “פינה
Very quickly review the גמרא דף לח. “איבעיא להו (twelve lines from bottom of the Amud) until “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud)
Questions:
The Gemara above discussed the halacha if someone violates the prohibition of שהייה. What is the Gemara question now עבר ושהה מאי?
Learn תוס’ “עבר
Why does Rashi explain the question of the Gemara different than Tosfos?
How does Rashi answer the question of Tosfos that the Gemara already ruled if one intentionally leaves food on the stove it is prohibited?
Learn מהרש”א על רש”י “עבר for an explanation
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=453
Learn ר”ן דף לח. “והיכא דעבר who quoted the ראב”ד explanation that the מהרש”א says is the underpinning of Rashi.
Learn רא”ש פרק ג’ סוף ס’ א “עבר ושהה who gives two other explanations to the Gemara.
Learn רשב”א “הא דאיבעיא for another explanation of the Gemara.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=57
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=57
Very quickly review the גמרא דף לח. “איבעיא להו (twelve lines from bottom of the Amud) until “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud)
Questions:
The Gemara above discussed the halacha if someone violates the prohibition of שהייה. What is the Gemara question now עבר ושהה מאי?
Learn תוס’ “עבר
Why doesn’t Tosfos explain the question of the Gemara also according to חנניא when the food is cooked less than מאכל בן דרוסאי like Tosfos did above תוס’ לח. “שכח
See מהרש”א for an explanation
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=453
Why does Rashi explain the question of the Gemara different than Tosfos?
Learn רשב”א “הא דאיבעיא
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=57
Review גמרא דף נו. “בעצרת אומר לו הילך (two dots – seven lines from top of the Amud) until the two dots before the Mishna
Questions:
When the gemara concludes the order is leishev and then shehechiyanu why does the gemara not simply say the halacha is like Rav?
See תוס’ מו. “נכנס
Learn קרבן נתנאל אות צ
Learn תוס’ נו. “עד
Learn תוס’ נו. “והלכתא
Learn רא”ש פרק ד סימן ד who brings rishinom who rule that on the second night of Sukkos (in chutz laaretz) we switch the order and first day shehechiyanu and then make bracha leshev basukkah
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=483
Clarify the argument why the order should or should not be switched
Learn גמרא דף נו. “בעצרת אומר לו הילך (two dots – seven lines from top of the Amud) until the two dots before the Mishna
Learn the משנה דף נו and the גמרא דף נו until the two dots on דף נו עמוד ב
Question:
What is the reason that the Mishmar that is leaving gets an equal portion of lechem panim when yom tov and Shabbos follow each other?
See Rashi
Learn רמב”ם ה’ תמידין פרק ד הלכה יב who gives a different explanation than Rashi.
See ה’ ראב”ד who aska on the Rambam and the ה’ רדב”ז and כסף משנה who explains the Rambam
Which Mishmar receives two challos from the lechem hapanim when there is one day in between yom tov and shabbos? Why?
See Rashi
Learn רמב”ם ה’ תמידין פרק ד הלכה יג who explains the Gemara entirely different than Rashi
See ה’ ראב”ד who aska on the Rambam and the ה’ רדב”ז and כסף משנה who explains the Rambam
Welcome back
Review the גמרא דף לח. “איבעיא להו (twelve lines from bottom of the Amud) until “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud)
Questions:
The Gemara above discussed the halacha if someone violates the prohibition of שהייה. What is the Gemara question now עבר ושהה מאי?
Learn תוס’ “עבר
See מהרש”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=453
Does Rashi explain the question of the Gemara the same as Tosfos?
Learn רשב”א “הא דאיבעיא
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=57
Learn the גמרא דף לח. “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud) until the Mishna דף לח עמוד ב
Learn תוס’ דף לח: “אפילו
Learn תוס’ דף לח: “פינה
Learn גמרא דף נו. “בעצרת אומר לו הילך (two dots – seven lines from top of the Amud) until the two dots before the Mishna
Learn רא”ש פרק ד סימן ד who brings rishinom who rule that on the second night of Sukkos (in chutz laaretz) we switch the order and first day shechiyanu and then make bracha leishev basukkah
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=483
Clarify the argument why the order should or should not be switched
Questions:
If someone recited shechiyanu when he constructed his sukkah what should the order of the brachos be when he sits in his sukkah on the first night of sukkos?
When the gemara concludes the order is leishev and then shechiyanu why does the gemara not simply say the halacha is like Rav?
See תוס’ מו. “נכנס
Learn קרבן נתנאל אות צ
How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרמ”ג and ס’ תרס”א with the משנה ברורה
Review the גמרא דף לח. “מיתיבי (eleven lines from top of the Amud) until דף לח. “איבעיא להו (twelve lines from bottom of the Amud)
Learn the גמרא דף לח. “איבעיא להו (twelve lines from bottom of the Amud) until “ב”ה אומרין (two dots – bottom of the Amud)
Questions:
The Gemara above discussed the halacha if someone violates the prohibition of שהייה. What is the Gemara question now עבר ושהה מאי?
Learn תוס’ “עבר
See מהרש”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=453
Does Rashi explain the question of the Gemara the same as Tosfos?
Learn רשב”א “הא דאיבעיא
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=57
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Quickly review גמרא דף לז: “אמר רב שמואל (middle of the Amud) until “בעו מיניה” (bottom of the Amud)
Learn תוס’ “מהו
Learn גמרא דף לז: “בעו מיניה (last line of Amud)
Until דף לח. “איבעיא להו (twelve lines from bottom of the Amud)
Quickly review גמרא דף לז: “אמר רב ששת (eleven lines from top of the Amud) until “אמר רב שמואל ” (middle of the Amud)
Learn תוס’ “אמר רב ששת
Learn תוס’ “דיוקא דמתניתן
See מהר”ם on Tosfos
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=453
Learn גמרא דף לז: “אמר רב שמואל (middle of the Amud) until “בעו מיניה” (bottom of the Amud)
Learn תוס’ “מהו
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Aveida Bava Metzia Chanukah Chetzyaich Divrei Chizuk Eilu Metzios Emunah Gemara Halacha Hashkafa Kiddushin Kohanim Krias HaTorah Krias Sefer Torah Machshava Makkos Makom Mashkon Menorah Mini Mussar Mishna Berura Mussar Nesiyas Kapayim Parashah Parsha Pesach Pesach Seder Purim Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim Rabbi Gershon West Rabbi Shlomo Singer Rabbi Shmuel Suslovich Rambam Rashi Ritva Rosh Rosh Hashana Shtar Siman Tisha B'Av Tosfos Yeush Yeush Shelo Midaas Yom Iyun Yom Kippur