B) As long as there is no specific intent not to return?
What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech onto the countertop, may it be returned to the blech?
If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?
Review ה’ רע”א ס’ רנ”ג אות ו
What is the reason if someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?
According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?
Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger
Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע which summarizes the halacha of the case of Rebbe Akiva Eiger
Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop?
What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?
See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Aurbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.
If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it in the ground is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?
If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and does not have intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand. Is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?
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Point to consider
Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to have specific intent to return or as long as do not have specific intent not to return?
What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech onto the countertop, may it be returned to the blech?
If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?
What is the reason if someone removed your pot from the fire on Shabbos and placed it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?
According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?
Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger
Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop?
What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?
See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Auerbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.
The Gemara records a story in which Rebbe Elazar Ben Azaria and Rebbe Akiva went into a bath house to be מזיע. Afterwards they went into the outer room in which the hot water was covered by boards and showered.
Did they take a hot shower or cold shower?
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The Gemara says the bathhouse attendants started hearing water on Shabbos and saying it was heated on Friday. Was the Rabanan concerned that a Jewish person would intentionally violate Shabbos by heating up water?
Learn ר”ן “אמר ר’ שמעון בן פזי
The Braissa says that it is permitted to enter a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov. Is it also permitted on Shabbos?
Does the Rabinic prohibition of bathing ones body in hot water also prohibit entering a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov?
The Gemara says the bathhouse attendants started hearing water on Shabbos and saying it was heated on Friday. Was the Rabanan concerned that a Jewish person would intentionally violate Shabbos by hearing up water?
Learn ר”ן “אמר ר’ שמעון בן פזי
The Braissa says that it is permitted to enter a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov. Is it also permitted on Shabbos?
Does the Rabinic prohibition of bathing ones body in hot water also prohibit entering a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov?
Focus on the יש אומרים שכל זה אינו אסור – the chidush of the ר”ן from the ירושלמי
See משנה ברורה ס”ק סג-סז
Major Question:
Why does the Mishna Berura not permit returning a pot to the fire when it was placed on the ground with intent to return as the Rema says was the accepted practice?
Can we rely on the ruling of the ר”ן in cases of בדיעבד ?
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See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כא-כב
And קובץ הלכות פרק כו סעיף מה with footnote סג
Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to have specific intent to return or as long as do not have specific intent not to return.
What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech on to the counter top, may it be returned to the blech?
If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?
Learn הגהות רע”א על שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג אות ו
What is the reason if someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?
According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removes from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?
Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger
Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop?
What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?
See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Auerbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.
The Gemara says the bathhouse attendants started hearing water on Shabbos and saying it was heated on Friday. Was the Rabanan concerned that a Jewish person would intentionally violate Shabbos by hearing up water?
Learn ר”ן “אמר ר’ שמעון בן פזי
The Braissa says that it is permitted to enter a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov. Is it also permitted on Shabbos?
Does the Rabinic prohibition of bathing ones body in hot water also prohibit entering a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov?
Review the גמרא דף מ. “איתמר until א”ל רב יוסף לאביי” (middle of the Amud) Continue learning the Gemara until “אמר רבא” (last line of the Amud) Learn תוס’ “למוצאי
Focus on the יש אומרים שכל זה אינו אסור – the chidush of the ר”ן from the ירושלמי
See משנה ברורה ס”ק סג-סז
Major Question:
Why does the Mishna Berura not permit returning a pot to the fire when it was placed on the ground with intent to return as the Rema says was the accepted practice?
Can we rely on the ruling of the ר”ן in cases of בדיעבד ?
