Category: Evening Chabura

Quickly review גמרא דף לז עמוד ב from after the Mishna until the Mishna דף לח

We discussed last week whether one is required to shake the Lulav when he first recites the bracha on the lulav before Hallel?
The (תוספת (בהודו and (‘ר”ן (דף יח: דפי הריף and (רא”ש (פרק שלישי ס’ כו all said one must shake the Lulav when initially taking it and reciting the bracha.
The Meiri said it’s a kal vchomer that one must shake during the initial taking.

Learn רמב״ם הלכות לולב פרק ז הלכה ט-י
Note: the Rambam does not mention shaking the Lulav at the time of reciting the bracha.
See the הגהות מיימונית אות ס who quotes רבינו שמחה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&st=&pgnum=286&hilite=

Questions:
How does the Rambam and רבינו שמחה explain the three gemara’s that Tosfos and the Ran brought as a proof that the Lulav is shaken during the initial taking?

What is the point of disagreement between the Rambam and Tosfos/ Ran/ Rosh/ Meiri ?

What is a practical difference?

Is the extra tefach of the required height of the Lulav in addition to the first 3 tefachim part of the required height from the Torah or is it Rabbinic?
See last line משנה כט עמוד ב and רש”י דף כט: “ושל עיר הנדחת

The Mishna is clear that one must shake the Lulav. What is the source of the Mishna for this obligation?

How many times must one shake the Lulav?
What is considered נענועים – Moving the Lulav in various directions or actually shaking (rattling) the Lulav
Learn “תוספת “כדי
Learn ‘ר”ן דף יח: דפי הריף “גמרא

How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרנ”א סעיף ט and the משנה ברורה

Learn גמרא דף לז עמוד ב from after the Mishna until the Mishna דף לח

Questions:
What is the proper practice of shaking the Lulav when the Chazzan says יאמר נא ה’ & the public replies הודו לה’ כי טוב?
Should the public shake the Lulav at each of the responses of הודו לה’ כי טוב?
Should the Chazzan shake the Lulav when he says יאמר נא?
Learn “תוספת “בהודו starting from “ועכשיו (seven lines before the medium lines) until “ובשעת ברכה
Learn ר”ן דף יח: דפי הריף “בהודו (fourth line) until גמרא who gives a different opinion than Tosfos.

Question:
The practice in most shuls is that the Chazzan only shakes the Lulav during הודו לה’ and the first line of יאמר נא and the public shakes the Lulav during each הודו לה’ that is said in response to all the יאמר נא & יאמרו נא. What is the explanation of this practice as it’s not in accordance with any of the opinions above ?
See שולחן ערוך ס’ תרנ”א סעיף ב and משנה ברורה ס”ק מא

Is one required to shake the Lulav when he first recites the bracha on the lulav before Hallel?
Learn “תוספת “בהודו starting from “ובשעת ברכה
Learn ‘ר”ן דף יח: דפי הריף “מתני (top line) who gives an additional source.
Learn רא”ש פרק שלישי ס’ כו (the paragraph on the Mishna)
Learn רמב״ם הלכות לולב פרק ז הלכה ט-י and the הגהות מיימונית אות ס

What is the source of the Mishna that one must shake the Lulav?
How many times must one shake the Lulav?
What is considered נענועים – Moving the Lulav in various directions or actually shaking (rattling) the Lulav
Learn “תוספת “כדי
Learn ‘ר”ן דף יח: דפי הריף “גמרא

Learn משנה דף לז: & גמרא until א”ר יוסי בר אבין (second to last line of the Amud)

Questions:
Why do we shake the Lulav specifically when we recite the pasuk of הודו לה’ כי טוב and אנא ה’ הושיעה נא?
What is the proper practice of shaking the Lulav when the Chazzan says יאמר נא ה’ & the public replies הודו לה’ כי טוב?
Should the public shake the Lulav at each of the responses of הודו לה’ כי טוב?
Should the Chazzan shake the Lulav when he says יאמר נא?

The Mishna discusses shaking and waving the Daled Minim during Hallel. Does one need to shake and wave the Lulav when he recites the bracha on them before Hallel?
Learn “תוספות “בהודו starting from “ועכשיו (seven lines before the medium lines) until “ובשעת ברכה
Learn ר”ן דף יח: דפי הריף “בהודו (fourth line) until גמרא who gives a different opinion than Tosfos.
Why does Beis Shammai require to shake the Lulav also by אנא ה’ הצליחה נא?

What is the source of the Mishna that one must shake the Lulav?
Learn “תוספות “כדי

Conclusion of the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה (eight lines from top of the Amud)

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרל”ח last two lines of סעיף ב “אם סכך בהדס and משנה ברורה ס”ק כה & כו and שער הציון אות ל

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=208

Question:
If the source for the prohibition is the drasha which makes the Haddasim into איסורי הנאה than why is it permitted to smell an Esrog?
See שפת אמת דף לז. “אמר רבה הדס של מצוה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14522&st=&pgnum=198

Learn the “גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס במחובר until the Mishna

Questions:
Does one who mistakenly held the Lulav in the left hand and Esrog in the right hand fulfill the Mitzvah of Daled Minim?
Does he need to pick the Daled minim up again in the correct hand?

See the “גמרא דף מב. “אמר אביי כשהפכו and רש”י an רבינו חננאל “א”ר אמי
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=42&format=pdf

Learn the מאירי
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=57966&st=&pgnum=99&hilite=

And מגן אברהם ס’ תרנ”א ס”ק ט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=395&hilite=

How do we rule lhalacha?
See שולחן ערוך ס’ תרנ”א סעיף ג and משנה ברורה ס”ק יט
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=251

Does one who holds the Daled Minim in one hand fulfill the Mitzvah of Daled Minim?
Learn the מאירי

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=57966&st=&pgnum=99&hilite=

And ט”ז ס’ תרנ”א ס”ק יד

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=399

Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרנ”א סעיף ב and משנה ברורה and שער הציון אות טז

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=250

The Gemara says we specifically make the bracha on the Lulav because it’s species is גבוה מכולם?
What does that mean?
See Rashi
See the “מאירי “כשהוא בא ליטול
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=57966&st=&pgnum=99&hilite=

Very quickly review the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה (eight lines from top of the Amud) until “ואמר רבה הדס במחובר”

Is it permitted to smell haddasim which are being used as schach?

Learn רן דף יח. דפי הריף “הדס של מצוה (middle of the wide lines)

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=618&hilite=

See גמרא דף י: מנימין עבדיה דרב אשי (fourth line from top of the Amud) until אתמר

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=10b&format=pdf

Questions:

If the Drasha prohibits usage of the schach then why didn’t Rav Ashi raise an objection to using the schach as a clothes line?

See ט”ז ס’ תרל”ח ס”ק ג starting from ועל כן נראה פשוט

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=369

See שולחן ערוך ס’ תרל”ח last two lines of סעיף ב “אם סכך בהדס and משנה ברורה ס”ק כה & כו and שער הציון אות ל

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=208

We discussed an argument between the מרדכי and the ש”ך
The (מרדכי (פסחים פרק שני אות תקמז derives from the prohibition to smell the Haddasim that it is only forbidden to smell איסורי הנאה whose primary function are to produce a nice fragrance. But if scent is not the primary function than it is permitted to smell them as we apply the rule דייט לאו מילתא
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14315&st=&pgnum=421

The ש”ך יו”ד ס’ ק”ח ס”ק כז disagrees and says that our Gemara implies the opposite. Only in regards to muktza is it permitted to smell the item if it’s primary function is not for smell. But for איסורי הנאה it is prohibited to derive pleasure from their fragrance regardless of their primary or secondary purpose.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9145&st=&pgnum=513

Questions:
What is the point of disagreement between the מרדכי and the ש”ך?
The מרדכי – Special drasha that the Daled minim are consecrated to Hashem.
The ש”ך – They are designated for a mitzvah.

See “רש”י “אסור להריח
Questions:
Why does Rashi list both the reason of חל שם שמים – איסור הנאה and מוקצה?

If the source for the prohibition is the drasha which makes the Haddasim into איסורי הנאה than why is it permitted to smell an Esrog?
See שפת אמת דף לז. “אמר רבה הדס של מצוה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14522&st=&pgnum=198

Continue learning the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס במחובר until the Mishna

Questions:
Did someone who mistakenly held the Lulav in the left hand and Esrog in the right hand fulfill the Mitzvah of Daled Minim?
Does he need to pick the Daled minim up again in the correct hand?
See the גמרא מב. “אמר אביי כשהפכו and רש”י an רבינו חננאל “א”ר אמי

Learn the מאירי
And מגן אברהם ס’ תרנ”א ס”ק ט
How do we rule lhalacha?
See שולחן ערוך ס’ תרנ”א סעיף ג and משנה ברורה ס”ק יט

Learn the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה (eight lines from top of the Amud) until “ואמר רבה הדס במחובר”

Question:
What is the reason it is prohibited to smell the haddasim?

1. Special drasha that the Daled minim are consecrated to Hashem
2. They are designated for a mitzvah.

See “רש”י “אסור להריח

Learn גמרא דף ט. “דאמר רב ששת (fourth mine of the Gemara) until ובית שמאי
Learn תוספת דף ט. “מנין
Clarify the two explanations of Tosfos as to when there is a drasha from the Torah prohibiting the use of schach and when we need the takana drabanan of muktza.

Questions:

How does Rashi extrapolate the prohibition of smelling the haddasim from schach which has a special drasha?
If the source for the prohibition is the drasha then why is it permitted to smell an Esrog?

See מרדכי גמרא פסחים פרק שני אות תקמ”ז who derives a halacha in all איסורי הנאה from our Gemara

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14315&st=&pgnum=421

See ש”ך יו”ד ס’ ק”ח ס”ק כז who asks that our Gemara implies the opposite.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9145&st=&pgnum=513

See שפת אמת דף לז. “אמר רבה הדס של מצוה

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14522&st=&pgnum=198

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14522&st=&pgnum=199

Is it permitted to smell haddasim which are being used as schach?

Learn רן דף יח. דפי הריף “הדס של מצוה (middle of the wide lines)

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=618&hilite=

See גמרא דף י: מנימין עבדיה דרב אשי (fourth line from top of the Amud) until אתמר

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=10b&format=pdf

Questions:

If the Drasha prohibits usage of the schach then why didn’t Rav Ashi raise an objection to using the schach as a clothes line?

See ט”ז ס’ תרל”ח ס”ק ג starting from ועל כן נראה פשוט

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=369

See שולחן ערוך ס’ תרל”ח last two lines of סעיף ב “אם סכך בהדס and משנה ברורה ס”ק כה & כו and שער הציון אות ל

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=208

Review the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה (three lines from top of the Amud) until ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה

Questions:
Rabbah and Rava disagree when there’s a separated leaf from the haddasim or Aravos whether it is considered a חציצה
What is the additional chiddush in the argument betwéen Rabbah and Rava by the case of the cut off leaves of the Lulav?
Why does the Rif and Rambam not bring the halacha of the case of cutting off the bottom of the lulav when it’s inside the bundle?
Learn Aruch L’Ner for an answer
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=143

Why would a separated leaf stuck between Hadas and Lulav be a Chatzitza? Earlier we only discussed a chatzitza between one’s hand and the daled minim, where is the source that the daled minim needs to be stuck together without a separation?
See Rashash
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=514

Would the answer to this question differ based on the machlokes between Tosfos and the Ran regarding what is the disqualification in all the cases of Rabbah and Rava. (Tosfos- חציצה, Ran- lack of לקיחה תמה)?
Bring a proof from Rashi what the issue is.

According to Rabbah would one be inquired to inspect that there are no detached leaves stuck between his lulav and haddas ?

Review the שולחן ערוך ס’ תרנ”א סעיף ז with the משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=252

The Rama says the minhag is to remove the tefillin straps and rings from one’s finger when holding the Daled minim but according to the letter of the law it is not necessary.
Questions:
Why is it not absolutely necessary?
See מגן אברהם ס”ק יח and ב’ הגר”א אות כב who give different explanations
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=397
See משנה ברורה ס”ק לו for his halachik ruling
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=252

Does one have to remove the rings from their fingers before taking the Daled minim?
Does one have to remove a bandaid from his hand when taking the Daled minim?
What should one do if he has a non removable cast?
Is this the same as the halacha in regards to rings and bandages for netilas yadayim?
See שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ קסא סעיף א ומשנה ברורה ס”ק א & ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=113
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=114
See ס’ קסב סעיף י ומשנה ברורה ס”ק סח regarding bandage
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=122
Regarding rings see שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ קסא סעיף ג ומשנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=115

For Halacha of Daled Minim:
See ערוך השולחן ס’ תרנ”א סעיף כ
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9102&st=&pgnum=411
See הליכות שלמה סוכה פרק יט הלכה טו with footnote דבר הלכה אות כה
See קובץ הלכות סוכה פרק לו סעיף יד-טו

Learn the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה (eight lines from top of the Amud) until “ואמר רבה הדס במחובר”

Question:
What is the source for the prohibition of smelling the haddasim?
See “רש”י “אסור להריח
Learn גמרא דף ט. “דאמר רב ששת (fourth line of the Gemara) until ובית שמאי
Learn תוספת דף ט. “מנין
Clarify the two explanations of Tosfos as to when there is a drasha from the Torah prohibiting the use of schach and when we need the takana drabanan of muktza.

Questions:
How does Rashi extrapolate the prohibition of smelling the haddasim from schach which has a special drasha?
If the source for the prohibition is the drasha then why is it permitted to smell an Esrog?

Is it permitted to smell haddasim which are being used as schach?
Learn רן דף יח. דפי הריף “הדס של מצוה (middle of the wide lines)

See שפת אמת דף לז. “אמר רבה הדס של מצוה

Quickly review the גמרא דף לז. “אמר רבא מנא אמינא (eight lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף לז: “ואמר רבה (three lines from top of the Amud)

Question:
Rava beings a proof from the לקיחה of אזוב that לקיחה על ידי דבר אחר שמה לקיחה. How does the halacha of איזוב disprove the position of רבה who requires לקיחה תמה which is special for Lulav?
Learn רש”ש

Continue learning the Gemara until ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה

Questions:
Would a separated leaf be an issue of בל תוסיף?

Rabbah and Rava disagree when there’s a separated leaf from the haddasim or Aravos whether it is considered a חציצה
What is the additional chiddush in the argument betwéen Rabbah and Rava by the case of the cut off leaves of the Lulav?
Why does the Rif and Rambam not bring the halacha of the case of cutting off the bottom of the lulav when it’s inside the bundle?
Learn Aruch L’Ner for an answer
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=143

There is a machlokes as to what is the disqualification in all the cases of Rava.
Tosfos- חציצה
Ran- lack of לקיחה תמה

According to the Ran would a partial separation be a lack of לקיחה תמה?
Bring a próof from the above Gemara

Review the שולחן ערוך ס’ תרנ”א סעיף ז
The Rama says the minhag is to remove the tefillin straps and rings from one’s finger when holding the Daled minim but according to the letter of the law it is not necessary.
Questions:
Why is it not absolutely necessary?
See מגן אברהם ס”ק יח and ב’ הגר”א אות כב who give different explanations
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=397
See משנה ברורה ס”ק לו for his halachic ruling
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=252

Does one have to remove the rings from their fingers before taking the Daled minim?
Does one have to remove a bandaid from his hand when taking the Daled minim?
What should one do if he has a non removable cast?
Is this the same as the halacha in regards to rings and bandages for netilas yadayim?
See שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ קסא סעיף א ומשנה ברורה ס”ק א & ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=113
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=114
See ס’ קסב סעיף י ומשנה ברורה ס”ק סח regarding bandage
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=122
Regarding rings see שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ קסא סעיף ג ומשנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=115

For Halacha of Daled Minim:
See ערוך השולחן ס’ תרנ”א סעיף כ
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9102&st=&pgnum=411
See הליכות שלמה סוכה פרק יט הלכה טו with footnote דבר הלכה אות כה
See קובץ הלכות סוכה פרק לו סעיף יד-טו

Quickly review the גמרא דף לז. “אמר רבא מנא אמינא (eight lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף לז: “ואמר רבה (three lines from top of the Amud)

Question:
Rava beings a proof from the לקיחה of אזוב that לקיחה על ידי דבר אחר שמה לקיחה. How does the halacha of איזוב disprove the position of רבה who requires לקיחה תמה which is special for Lulav?
Learn רש”ש

Continue learning the Gemara until ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה

Questions:
Would a separated leaf be an issue of בל תוסיף?

Questions:
Rabbah and Rava disagree when there’s a separated leaf from the haddasim or Aravos whether it is considered a חציצה
What is the additional chiddush in the argument betwéen Rabbah and Rava by the case of the cut off leaves of the Lulav?
Why does the Rif and Rambam not bring the halacha of the case of cutting off the bottom of the lulav when it’s inside the bundle?
Learn Aruch L’Ner for an answer
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=143

There is a machlokes as to what is the disqualification in all the cases of Rava.
Tosfos- חציצה
Ran- lack of לקיחה תמה

According to the Ran would a partial separation be a lack of לקיחה תמה?
Bring a próof from the above Gemara

Review the שולחן ערוך ס’ תרנ”א סעיף ז
The Rama says the minhag is to remove the tefilin straps and rings from one’s finger when holding the Daled minim but according to the letter of the law it is not necessary.
Questions:
Why is it not absolutely necessary?
See מגן אברהם ס”ק יח and ב’ הגר”א אות כב who give different explanations
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=397
See משנה ברורה ס”ק לו for his halachik ruling
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=252

Does one have to remove the rings from their fingers before taking the Daled minim?
Does one have to remove a bandaid from his hand when taking the Daled minim?
What should one do if he has a non removable cast?
Is this the same as the halacha in regards to rings and bandages for netilas yadayim?
See שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ קסא סעיף א ומשנה ברורה ס”ק א & ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=113
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=114
See ס’ קסב סעיף י ומשנה ברורה ס”ק סח regarding bandage
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=122
Regarding rings see שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ קסא סעיף ג ומשנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=115

For Halacha of Daled Minim:
See ערוך השולחן ס’ תרנ”א סעיף כ
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9102&st=&pgnum=411
See הליכות שלמה סוכה פרק יט הלכה טו with footnote דבר הלכה אות כה
See קובץ הלכות סוכה פרק לו סעיף יד-טו

Learn the “גמרא דף לז. “ר’ מאיר (two dots) until “אמר להו רבה”

Bring a proof from “רש”י דף לז. “במינו as to why the Rabanan who hold לולב אין צורך אגד are not concerned with the violation of בל תוסיף when using a ring to bind the daled minim out of a different material?

Question on Gemara דף לו עמוד ב:
Why does רבא comment on the opinion of רבי יהודה who holds לולב צריך אגד when we rule the halacha is לולב אין צורך אגד?
Why did the Gemara spend time explaining the opinion of רבי יהודה when we rule like the Rabanan?

Continue learning the Gemara until “אמר רבא ” (eight lines from the bottom of the Amud)

Questions:
Would a partial חציצה betwéen ones hand and the Lulav invalidate his shaking of the daled minim?
Bring a proof from “תוספת “כי

Why is holding the Lulav with a scarf not an issue of חציצה?
Learn “תוספת “דבעינא

Very quickly review the “גמרא דף לו: “ואמר רבא מנא אמינא (nine lines from bottom of the Amud) until “גמרא דף לז. “ר’ מאיר (two dots)

Questions:
According to רבי יהודה
Do all the four minim need to be used in the schach?
Can one use an Esrog for schach?
Learn “תוספת דף לו: “רבי יהודה

Learn the “גמרא דף לז. “ר’ מאיר (two dots) until “אמר להו רבה”

Bring a proof from “רש”י דף לז. “במינו as to why the Rabanan who hold לולב אין צורך אגד are not concerned with the violation of בל תוסיף when using a ring to bind the daled minim out of a different material?

Question on Gemara דף לו עמוד ב:
Why does רבא comment on the opinion of רבי יהודה who holds לולב צריך אגד when we rule the halacha is לולב אין צורך אגד?
Why did the Gemara spend time explaining the opinion of רבי יהודה when we rule like the Rabanan?

Continue learning the Gemara until “אמר רבא ” (eight lines from the bottom of the Amud)

Questions:
Would a partial חציצה betwéen ones hand and the Lulav invalidate his shaking of the daled minim?
Bring a proof from “תוספת “כי

Why is holding the Lulav with a scarf not an issue of חציצה?
Learn “תוספת “דבעינא

Learn the “גמרא דף לו: “ואמר רבא מנא אמינא (nine lines from bottom of the Amud) until “גמרא דף לז. “ר’ מאיר (two dots)

Questions:
According to רבי יהודה
Do all the four minim need to be used in the schach?
Can one use an Esrog for schach?
Learn “תוספת דף לו: “רבי יהודה

The Gemara proved that רבי יהודה holds סיב and עיקרא דדיקלא could be used to bind the Lulav.
What is רבי יהודה source in the Torah for this?

Learn the “גמרא דף לז. “ר’ מאיר (two dots) until “אמר להו רבה”

Bring a proof from “רש”י דף לז. “במינו as to why the Rabanan who hold לולב אין צורך אגד are not concerned with the violation of בל תוסיף when using a ring to bind the daled minim out of a different material?

Question on Gemara דף לו עמוד ב:
Why does רבא comment on the opinion of רבי יהודה who holds לולב צריך אגד when we rule the halacha is לולב אין צורך אגד?
Why did the Gemara spend time explaining the opinion of רבי יהודה when we rule like the Rabanan?

Review the משנה דף לו עמוד ב and the Gemara until “אמרו לו” (second to last line of the Amud)

Questions on רבי יהודה:

The Anshei Yerushalayim had two bindings around their Lulav. The real binding was למטה. What does למטה mean in this case; beneath or underneath?

Why isn’t the second binding of the golden strap an issue of בל תוסיף?
See רש”י על המשנה “במינו אוגדין and רא”ש ס’ כד “אין אוגדין https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=480

Does one have to have specific intent for the golden strap to be placed for beauty in order for it not to be an issue of בל תוסיף?

Does it matter which one was placed first?
See מאירי “אמר לו ר’ יהודה (paragraph אמר) https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=57966&st=&pgnum=96

See “שפת אמת “במינו https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14522&st=&pgnum=198

Questions:
According to ר”מ/רבנן who hold לולב אין צורך אגד why is one not in violation by using different material to bind the Lulav?
Learn “תוספות דף לא: “הואיל https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=31b&format=pdf
Learn ר”ן דף טז: דפי הריף “דתניא until the two dots on top of דף יז for a different explanation than Tosfos

Tosfos says that in order to transgress בל תוסיף the extra item has to be held דרך גדילתו – in the direction that it grows. According to ר”מ why is it permitted to bind the Lulav with gold band as gold doesn’t grow from the ground so should not be limited to דרך גדילתו?
See רש”ש

Learn רא”ש פרק שלישי ס’ כד בגמרא starting from וכל הני שיעורים ” https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=478

Quickly review the “גמרא דף לו: “אתרוג קטן (two dots) until the Mishna

In conclusion:
According to רבי יהודה, why is an Esrog that is larger than half of his handgrip pasul?
According to רבי יוסי is there a maximum size for an Esrog?

Review “תוספת דף לד: “שתהא
Tosfos brings a machlokes between the בה”ג and ר”ת whether one must hold all the Daled minim in his hand at the same time in order to fulfill the Mitzvah.
Question:
According to ר”ת that one must hold all the Daled minim at the same time how can an Esrog the size of a watermelon be kosher as it’s impossible to hold all the minim?
See ערוך לנר

Learn the משנה דף לו עמוד ב and the Gemara until “אמרו לו” (second to last line of the Amud)

Questions on רבי יהודה:
The Anshei Yerushalayim had two bindings around their Lulav. The real binding was למטה. What does למטה mean in this case; beneath or underneath?

Why isn’t the second binding of the golden strap an issue of בל תוסיף?
See רש”י על המשנה “במינו אוגדין and רא”ש ס’ כד “אין אוגדין https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=480

Does one have to have specific intent for the golden strap to be placed for beauty in order for it not to be an issue of בל תוסיף?

Does it matter which one was placed first?
See מאירי “אמר לו ר’ יהודה (paragraph אמר) https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=57966&st=&pgnum=96

See “שפת אמת “במינו https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14522&st=&pgnum=198

Questions:
According to ר”מ/רבנן who hold לולב אין צורך אגד why is one not in violation by using different material to bind the Lulav?
Learn “תוספות דף לא: “הואיל https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=31b&format=pdf
Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “דתניא until the two dots on top of דף יז for a different explanation than Tosfos

Tosfos says that in order to transgress בל תוסיף the extra item has to be held דרך גדילתו – in the direction that it grows. According to ר”מ why is it permitted to bind the Lulav with gold band as gold doesn’t grow from the ground so should not be limited to דרך גדילתו?
See רש”ש

Learn רא”ש פרק שלישי ס’ יד בגמרא starting from וכל הני שיעורים ” https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=478

Learn the גמרא דף לו: אתרוג קטן until “ובגדול כדי שיאחז” (two dots) https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=36b&format=pdf
Question:
What is the comparison of the size of the stones one is permitted to carry into the בית הכסא on Shabbos to the minimum size of an Esrog?
See ערוך לנר “כך מחלוקת
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=138

Review the last four lines of the משנה דף לד עמוד ב starting from “שיעור אתרוג קטן” which brings a machlokes between רבי יהודה and רבי יוסי regarding the maximum size of an Esrog
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=34b&format=pdf

Learn the “גמרא דף לו: “אתרוג קטן (two dots) until the Mishna
Questions:
According to רבי יהודה why is an Esrog that is larger than half of his hand grip pasul?
Learn the גמרא דף לא: “ת”ש ובגדול (three lines before the wide lines) until the two dots.
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=31b&format=pdf

Does רבי יוסי have a maximum size for an Esrog?
Learn the ר”ן דף יח. דפי הריף “משנה – ובגדול כדי שיאחז until the next Mishna.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=618

Learn תוספת דף לד: “שתהא
Who brings machlokes between the בה”ג and ר”ת whether one must hold all the Daled minim in his hand at the same time in order to fulfill the Mitzvah.
Question:
According to ר”ת that one must hold all the Daled minim at the same time how can an Esrog the size of a watermelon be kosher as it’s impossible to hold all the minim?
See ערוך לנר

Conclusion of Sugya: פסולי ד מינים ביום ראשון ושאר ימי סוכות

The “גמרא דף לו: “איתמר until the two dots.

Write the different answers to the following question:
Why is the disqualification of לקיחה תמה only pasul for the first day and yet a lack of הדר disqualified for the entire Sukkos when they are both learnt from the same pasuk?
We have learnt a couple of reasons

1. Rashi
2. Tosfos – “תוס’ דף כט: “בעינן
3. Ran – “רן דף יג: דפי הריף “ומיהו

Learn the – “רן דף יג: דפי הריף “אבל הרמב”ן” (second to last line) until “דף יד. דפי הריף “אבל הראב”ד who presents a fourth explanation from the Ramban
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=609&hilite=

Learn רמב״ם הלכות לולב פרק ח הלכה ח-ט and the ראב”ד on the Rambam https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&st=&pgnum=293
Questions:
There are two gemaras which seem to contradict the ruling of the Rambam.
How could the Rambam & Raavad rule that a lack of Hadar will only disqualify an Esrog on the first day of Sukkos when the Gemara דף כט עמוד ב says clearly that it will disqualify the entire Sukkos?
Our Gemara says the split between the first day and the rest of the days of Sukkos is applicable to an Esrog which is חסר and not for an Esrog which is lacking in Hadar from mice nibbling on the Esrog?
Learn the כסף משנה & לחם משנה for an answer or these two questions

How do we conclude lhalacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ תרמ”ט סעיף ה and משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=245&hilite=

Learn the גמרא דף לו: אתרוג קטן until “ובגדול כדי שיאחז” (two dots) https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=36b&format=pdf
Question:
What is the comparison of the size of the stones one is permitted to carry into the בית הכסא on Shabbos to the minimum size of an Esrog?
See ערוך לנר “כך מחלוקת
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=138

Review the last four lines of the משנה דף לד עמוד ב starting from “שיעור אתרוג קטן” which brings a machlokes between רבי יהודה and רבי יוסי regarding the maximum size of an Esrog
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=34b&format=pdf

Learn the גמרא דף לו: “גדלו בדפוס until “איתמר”

Questions:
Why is an Esrog that grows inside a mold with a different shape pasul?

Learn the “גמרא דף לו: “איתמר until the two dots.

Questions:
For which days of Sukkos does the disqualification of לקיחה תמה and lack of הדר apply?
According to Rashi, why is an Esrog with a lack of הדר disqualified for the entire Sukkos?
According to the לישנא קמא (first version of the opinion of רבה) why is an Esrog which a person nibbled on not a lack in הדר?
According to the לישנא בתרא (second version of the opinion of רבה) why is an Esrog which mice nibbled on not a lack in הדר?
Why is the disqualification of לקיחה תמה only pasul for the first day and yet a lack of הדר disqualified for the entire Sukkos when they are both learnt from the same pasuk?
Learn “תוס’ דף כט: “בעינן – focus on the final answer of Tosfos “לכך נראה”

Questions on Tosfos:
Why would the Rabanan not establish the mitzvah drabanan of the daled minim entirely like the requirements of the Torah?
Is Tosfos’ explanation the same as Rashi?

Learn “רן דף יג: דפי הריף “ומיהו for a new explanation of our gemara and a different answer to the original question. Focus on the explanation of the Ramban (second to last line on דף יג: דפי הריף )
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=46674&st=&pgnum=56

Learn ר”ן bottom of דף יז: דפי הריף “הא ביו”ט ראשון until the top of דף יח. – מתניתן
And the “ר”ן דף יג: דפי הריף “ומיהו until the two dots
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=609&hilite=

Question:
Why is the disqualification of לקיחה תמה only pasul for the first day and yet a lack of הדר disqualified for the entire Sukkos when they are both learnt from the same pasuk?
We have learnt a couple of reasons

1. Rashi
   (See the ר”ן for his understanding of Rashi. Ran bottom of דף יז: דפי הריף “הא ביו”ט ראשון until the top of דף יח. – מתניתן https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=617)
2. Tosfos https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=29b&format=pdf

Learn the “רן דף יג: דפי הריף “ומיהו until “אבל הרמב”ן” (second to last line) for a third explanation to the original question.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=609
Questions:
According the the Ran
Why is an Esrog which is חסר pasul?
Why is it only pasul for the first day of Sukkos?

Continue learning the Ran from the “אבל הרמב”ן” (second to last line) until דף יח. דפי הריף “אבל הראב”ד who presents a fourth explanation from the Ramban (second to last line on דף יג: דפי הריף )
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=609&hilite=

Learn רמב״ם הלכות לולב פרק ח הלכה ח-ט and the ראב”ד on the Rambam https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&st=&pgnum=293
Question:
How does the Rambam explain our Gemara?
See the כסף משנה & לחם משנה

Review the גמרא דף נד: ” מיתיבי (second wide line of the Amud) until “דף נה. מיתיבי (third line)

Question:
Is the principle of תדיר קדים just in regards to what comes first in an order of procedure or even in regards to selecting one out of two which would be performed?
Learn תוס’ “ואמאי
Learn תוספת שבת דף כג: “הדר
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=2&daf=23b&format=pdf
which discusses what Haftarah is read on Shabbos Chanukah when it coincides with Rosh Chodesh. Tosfos quotes the Rashba that the Haftarah of Chanukah is read as פרסומי ניסא is greater then reason of תדיר as is the conclusion of Rava in the gemara Shabbos. However for the krias hatorah the reading of the parsha of Rosh Chodesh comes first before krias hatorah of Chanukah as both kriah’s will be read and it’s just a question of which one is read first then we say תדיר קודם.
Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרפד סע’ ג
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=425
And מגן אברהם ס”ק ב which asks a question on our Tosfos based on the conclusion of Tosfos in Shabbos
See אשל אברהם ס”ק ב for an explanation of the question of the מגן אברהם

Learn ערוך לנר דף נד: על תוס
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=213
and פסקי ריד על גמרא
“פסקי רי”ד מסכת סוכה דף נד עמוד ב
מיתיבי ראש חודש שחל להיות בשבת שיר של ראש חודש דוחה שבת, ואם איתה לימ’ דראש חודש ולימ’ דשבת, אמ’ רב פפא מאי דוחה לקדם, ואמאי תדיר ושאינו תדיר תדיר (ל)קדם, אמ’ ר’ יוחנ’ לידע שהוקבע ראש חודש בזמנו. מיכן מוכיח שאם אמ’ שיר אח’ ראש חודש דוחה שבת, ואף על גב דשבת תדירה, זה שבא לפרקי’ דוחה אותו. ומיכן יש להוכיח להביא ראייה דראש [חדש] טבת שחל להיות בשבת ההפטרה דחנוכה אמרי’ שהיא באה לפרקים ולא דראש חודש שהיא תדירה.

Continue learning the גמרא דף נה until the end of the Amud
Learn תוספת דף מה. “איתקן
And שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ תרסג סע’ א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=269

Very quickly review the גמרא דף נד: “ואין מוסיפים על מ”ח and continue learning until “מיתיבי” (second wide line)
Clarify the points below we started discussing yesterday
Questions:
Was water drawn for Nisuch Hamayim on Yom tov?
See רש”י דף נד: “והיכי דמי
And רש”י דף נד. “לפי שאין תוקעים למילוי המים בשבת (six lines from bottom of the Amud)
Learn תוס’ דף נד: כגון
Learn מהרש”א דף נד: “בפרש”י which asks a contradiction between the above two Rashi’s?
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=510

And תוס’ דף נ: “ורבנן (starting from “ומיהו קשה”)

Learn ערוך לנר דף נ: על תוס’ “ורבנן דברי המתחיל “ואגב דגזור בהו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=199

Learn רמב״ם הלכות כלי המקדש פרק ז הלכה ו
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58963&st=&pgnum=36&hilite=
Question:
The Rambam says there were no tekios on Shabbos. This seems unnecessary to state as there was no filling of the water on Shabbos so no reason for tekios?

Learn ערוך לנר דף נד: על רש”י “והיכי דמי
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=213

Continue learning the גמרא דף נד: ” מיתיבי (second wide line of the Amud) until “דף נה. מיתיבי (third line)

Question:
Is the principle of תדיר קדים just in regards to what comes first in an order of procedure or even in regards to selecting one out of two which would be performed?
Learn תוס’ “ואמאי
Learn ערוך לנר דף נד: על תוס’
and פסקי ריד על גמרא

Continue learning the גמרא דף נה until the end of the Amud

Review the גמרא דף נד: “ואין מוסיפים על מ”ח and continue learning until “מיתיבי” (second wide line)

Questions:
Was water drawn for Nisuch Hamayim on Yom tov?
See רש”י דף נד: “והיכי דמי
And רש”י דף נד. “לפי שאין תוקעים למילוי המים בשבת (six lines from bottom of the Amud)
Learn תוס’ דף נד: כגון
Learn מהרש”א דף נד: “בפרש”י which asks a contradiction between the above two Rashi’s?
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=510

And תוס’ דף נ: “ורבנן (starting from “ומיהו קשה”)

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Question:
The Rambam say there was no tekios on Shabbos. This seems unnecessary to state as there was no filling of the water on Shabbos so no reason for tekios?

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Sugya: אתרוג הבוסר
How do we conclude lhalacha?
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What is the halacha regarding an esrog which is larger than an egg at the onset of Sukkos but shrunk during yom tov and is now smaller than the size of an egg?
Learn “ביאור הלכה “פסול who quotes the חיי אדם who says it’s Pasul as it is lacking in הדר.

Question:
How could the חיי אדם say it’s Pasul because of Hadar when the gemara concluded that less than the size of an egg is pasul because it’s considered לא נגמר פירא?

Please write a summary of the Sugya אתרוג הבוסר

Learn the גמרא דף לו: “גדלו בדפוס until the two dots.

Questions:
Why is an Esrog that grows inside a mold with a different shape pasul?

How could the Rambam rule that a lack of Hadar only disqualifies on the first day of Sukkos. Our Gemara says clearly that Hadar is pasul even on Yom Tov Sheini?

Is יום טוב שני referring to the second day of Sukkos that is observed as yom tov proper in the diaspora or is it referring to the remainder of the days of Sukkos (to the exclusion of the first day) ?
See the ר”ן begining of the third Perek.
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Question:
Why is an Esrog that grows inside a mold with a different shape pasul?

Learn the “גמרא דף לו: “איתמר until the two dots.
Questions:
For which days of Sukkos does the disqualification of לקיחה תמה and lack of הדר apply?
According to Rashi, why is an Esrog with a lack of הדר disqualified for the entire Sukkos?
According to the לישנא קמא (first version of the opinion of רבה) why is an Esrog which a person nibbled on not a lack in הדר?
According to the לישנא בתרא (second version of the opinion of רבה) why is an Esrog which mice nibbled on not a lack in הדר?
Why is the disqualification of לקיחה תמה only pasul for the first day and yet a lack of הדר disqualified for the entire Sukkos when they are both learnt from the same pasuk?
See the last few lines of תוספת דף כט: “בעינן (starting from “לכך נראה”) and ר”ן bottom of דף יז: דפי הריף “הא ביו”ט ראשון until the top of דף יח. – מתניתן
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