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5775 / Gemara / Makkos / Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim's shiurim

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 22B: Mishna Over Aveira, Gemara ViHaTanya and Mishna Kama Malkin… (12/03/14)

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Very quickly review :גמרא כב from second set of two dots until the משנה.

Questions:

According to the ריב”ן

  • What is the חילק between being reevaluated on the same day as the first evaluation or on a later date?
  • Why does the נלקה not need to endure his full share of lashes if there was an underestimation in the original evaluation ?
  • Why does the נלקה not need to endure his full share of lashes when the reevaluation is done on a later date and its clear he can endure the full amount contrary to the original evaluation which said he can only endure part of the 39?

Continue learning the משנה and גמרא including the second משנה until the bottom of the עמוד

Point to ponder:
  • When the נלקה is evaluated that he can endure 42 lashes we consider it as getting 2 sets if lashes.
  • Is this only for one action that is a violation of 2 לאוין or even for 2 individual violations of 2 לאוין ?  See ערל”נ

Questions:

  • Why does the חזן  rip the shirt of the נלקה ? See ריטב”א
  • When the מלקה adds an extra lash resulting in the death of the נלקה the  מלקה go to גלות. Why? גלות. Is only for an accident? This is negligence? (See ריבן , ריטב”א )

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5775 / Gemara / Makkos / Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim's shiurim

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 22B: Rabi Yehuda Omer Arbaim Shleimos…: Amar R’ Yitzchak Mai Taima DiRabi Yehuda… (12/01/14)

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Learn :גמרא כב from first set of two dots until  משנה.

Question:
According to the ריב”ן
  • What is the חילק between being reevaluated on the same day as the first evaluation or on a later date?
  • Why does the נלקה not need to endure his full share of lashes if there was an underestimation in the original evaluation ?
  • Why does the נלקה not need to endure his full share of lashes when the reevaluation is done on a later date and its clear he can endure the full amount contrary to the original evaluation which said he can only endure part of the 39?
Point to ponder:
  • According to רבי יהודה when the נלקה can only endure part of the 39 lashes would he still receive one or more lashes בין כתיפיו?
  • According to רבי יהודה when the נלקה can only endure 20 lashes, will he receive 2 lashes בין כתיפיו?  (The ערל”נ “דכתיב” and “אשר” discusses these two questions)

Continue learning the משנה and גמרא until the second משנה on the עמוד

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5775 / Brachos / Gemara / Rabbi Gershon West's Shiurim

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Rabbi Gershon West: Brachos 48B to 49A: Tanu Rabanan Minayin LiBirchas Hamazon Min HaTorah… (11/27/14)

 

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Begin on 48b, Rebbi omer, 21 lines before the end of the amud. Learn until the two dots on 49a, 16 lines down from the top. The gemara says that saying bris and torah in the second bracha of benching is required. If one forgets bris and torah, is he required to repeat benching? See Biur Halacha siman 187 sif 3 dh machzirin. See also Ritva here on 49a dh vehamilah that discusses this. If one finished the second bracha of benching without bris and torah and realized his mistake before beginning the next bracha, what should he do now? See Shaar Hatzion on the bottom of the Mishna Brura siman 187 sk 8. Is there room to take issue with his proof from yaleh veyavoh?

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5775 / Gemara / Makkos / Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim's shiurim

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 22B: Mai Taima Ee Ksiv Arbaim BiMispar… (11/26/14)

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Very quickly review .משנה כב and :גמרא כב until first set of two dots.

The ראשונים seem to give an entirely different reason then the גמרא
why we only give 39 lashes when the תורה says 40 (See ריטב”א , and רמב”ם ה’ סנהדרין י”ז,א )

Questions:

  • How can they give a different reason then the גמרא?
  • What is a נפקא מיניה between the explanations? (See “ערוך לנר “בצרו )
  • Why does רש”י דברים כ”ה,ג give a different explanation then the גמרא ?
Continue learning the גמרא until the next משנה
Question:
  • Our גמרא says a ת”ח is greater then a ס”ת. Learn “גמרא קידושין לג. “איבעיא  which seems to say just the opposite. ( ר” ן שם  and מהרש”א here in Makkos )

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