Rabbi Zev Wolbe: Mishna Berura Halacha Shiur – Hilchos Sukkah – Siman 628: The Laws of a Sukkah under a Sukkah (08/15/23)
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Do the Rabanan (Mishna 13b) who disqualify קורה that is not בריאה לקבל אריח also permit two קורות at different height elevations?
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Is there a limit to the height distance between two קורות placed at different height elevations?
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Why according to the Rabanan does a קורה which is four tefachim wide not need to be strong enough to support a brick?
Is a four tefachim wide קורה made from straw or twigs kosher?
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According to the opinion of the Shulchan Aruch סע’ כב that two קורות combined can only be maximum one tefach apart from one another. Could they combine to create a קורה which is four tefachim wide and therefore be allowed to be 2 1/2 tefachim apart from one another ?
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What if the physical material of the קורות total four tefachim but there are gaps in between?
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What was so upright and special about the person that ר’ אלעזר בר צדוק gave him such praise?
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Questions:
What is the difference between the לישנא קמא and the לישנא בתרא?
Rashi explains the issue of concern for the halacha of traveling on Friday is the lack of food at one’s point of destination. Why does it matter the amount of distance one needs to travel even if one traveled less of a distance but arrived home close to Shabbos there would still be the same issue?
Does the same amount of limited distance apply if one is traveling by car or plane?
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Why does ר’ יהודה not require קורה to be strong enough to support a brick?
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Do the two קורות combined need to be a tefach wide?
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When using two 1/2 tefachim קורות how much space can be between them?
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Do the Rabanan also permit two קורות at different height elevations?
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Is there a limit to the height distance between two קורות placed at different height elevations?
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Why according to the Rabanan does a קורה which is four tefachim wide not need to be strong enough to support a brick?
Is a four tefachim wide קורה made from straw or twigs kosher?
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According to the opinion of the Shulchan Aruch סע’ כב that two קורות combined can only be maximum one tefach apart from one another. Could they combine to create a קורה which is four tefachim wide and therefore be allowed to be 2 1/2 tefachim apart from one another ?
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What if the physical material of the קורות total four tefachim but there are gaps in between?
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Do the two קורות combined need to be a tefach wide?
When using two 1/2 tefachim קורות how much space can be between them?
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Do the Rabanan agree to the concept of רואין?
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Why according to the Rabanan does a קורה which is four tefachim wide not need to be strong enough to support a brick?
Is a four tefachim wide קורה made from straw or twigs kosher?
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According to the first opinion of the Shulchan Aruch סע’ כב that two קורות combined can be up to three tefachim apart from one another. Could they combine to create a קורה which is four tefachim wide and therefore will not require the physical קורות to be strong enough to support a brick?
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What if the two קורות combined equal four tefachim?
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Why does ר’ יהודה not require קורה to be strong enough to support a brick?
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How many bricks does the קורה need to be able to support?
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What is the reason the קורה need to be a Tefachim wide?
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And רש”י דף ג. הניטלת
According to whose opinion is a קורה made out of straw or twigs kosher?
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How do we conclude lhalacha?
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What is the greatness of finding reasonings which are not correct for example being מטהר את הטמא?
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The גמרא בבא מציעא דף נט עמוד ב says we don’t listen to a בת קול as Torah is not in the heaven. How could the Bas Kol rule the Halacha is like Beis Hillel?
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The Gemara lists two qualities of Beis Hillel as the reason why the Halacha is in accordance to Beis Hillel.
How does the quality of נוחים ועלובין help to determine the Halacha like Beis Hillel?
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How does the fact that Beis Hillel quoted the opinion of Beis Shamai and presented Beis Shamai opinion first help to determine the Halacha like Beis Hillel?
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What is the difference between מגביה עצמו, מחזר אחר גדולה & דוחק את השעה?
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What is the difference between יפשפש במעשיו and ימשמש במעשיו?
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Why is it more נוח for man not to be created?
If it was better for man not to have been created why did ,Hashem create man?
The Tanaaim did not spend time debating philosophical ideas unless it had some application to Torah and Avodas Hashem. What practical difference does this debate and conclusion of mans creation have in our lives?
What is the Gemara telling us that now man is created יפשפש במעשיו and ימשמש במעשיו? Is this some form of consolation?
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Questions:
In conclusion of the Gemara is the taking of Aravos on Hoshana Rabbah זכר למקדש or מנהג נביאים?
What do we conclude lhalacha in regards to making a bracha on taking the Aravos?
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Major Question:
The גמרא דף מג concluded that Aravah was בנטילה – everyone waved the Aravos each day of Sukkos in the Beis Hamikdash and the זכר למקדש replicates the way it was performed in the Beis Hamikdash & on דף מד the aravos were taken when encircling the Mizbaich.
The gemara concluded that Hoshanos we’re instituted זכר למקדש for the נטילה which was walking around the mizbaich?
Why is our minhag to walk around the bima each day of Sukkos with the set of Daled Minim one time and on Hoshana Rabbah seven times. We should be holding aravos as they did in the Beis Hamikdash when they circled the Mizbaich?
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