Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Morning Kollel: גמרא שבת – בורר – דף קלז: – דף קלח & דף קלט: Filtering Wine & Water (07/10/25)
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Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה:
Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to
A) Have specific intent to return, or
B) As long as there is no specific intent not to return?
What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech onto the countertop, may it be returned to the blech?
If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?
Review ה’ רע”א ס’ רנ”ג אות ו
What is the reason if someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?
According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?
Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger
Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע which summarizes the halacha of the case of Rebbe Akiva Eiger
Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop?
What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?
See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Aurbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.
Questions:
The Braissa says that it is permitted to enter a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov. Is it also permitted on Shabbos?
Does the Rabinic prohibition of bathing ones body in hot water also prohibit entering a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov?
Learn תוס’ “למוצאי
Learn רשב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=60
Is it permitted to enter a bathhouse of a large city with intent to be מזיע?
Learn ר”ן “גרסינן בגמרא אמבטיאות
In conclusion:
What type of bathing is permitted on Shabbos? On Yom tov?
Learn ר”ן “הלכך
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ שכ”ו סע’ א with the משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=326
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=327
May one bathe in a river?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ שכ”ו סע’ ז with the משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=328
May one bathe in a cold bath?
May one immerse in a mikveh on Shabbos?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ שכ”ו סע’ ח
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=181&hilite=
Learn מגן אברהם ס”ק ח
Learn משנה ברורה ס”ק כד
And ביאור הלכה “אדם מותר
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=329
May the water of the mikveh be heated before Shabbos?
ery quickly review the גמרא דף מ. “ת”ר מרחץ שפקקו נקביו (two thirds down the Amud) until “אמר רבא” (the bottom of the Amud)
Question:
The Braissa says that it is permitted to enter a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov. Is it also permitted on Shabbos?
Does the Rabinic prohibition of bathing ones body in hot water also prohibit entering a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov?
Learn תוס’ “למוצאי
Learn רשב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=60
Continue learning the Gemara גמרא דף מ. “אמר רבא until “דף מ: “ת”ר מתחמם אדם (fourth line)
Question:
Is it permitted to enter a bathhouse of a large city with intent to be מזיע?
Learn ר”ן “גרסינן בגמרא אמבטיאות
In conclusion:
What type of bathing is permitted on Shabbos? On Yom tov?
Learn ר”ן “הלכך
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ שכ”ו סע’ א with the משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=326
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=327
May one bathe in a river?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ שכ”ו סע’ ז with the משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=328
May one bathe in a cold bath?
May one immerse in a mikveh on Shabbos?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ שכ”ו סע’ ח
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=181&hilite=
Learn מגן אברהם ס”ק ח
Learn משנה ברורה ס”ק כד
And ביאור הלכה “אדם מותר
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=329
May the water of the mikveh be heated before Shabbos?
Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה:
Review שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב with משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49
Question:
If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it in the ground is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?
If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and does not have intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand. Is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?
Learn ה’ רע”א ס’ רנ”ג אות ו
Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע
Point to consider
Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to have specific intent to return or as long as do not have specific intent not to return?
What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech onto the countertop, may it be returned to the blech?
If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?
What is the reason if someone removed your pot from the fire on Shabbos and placed it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?
According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?
Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger
Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop?
What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?
See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Auerbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.
Very quickly review the גמרא דף מ. “ת”ר מרחץ שפקקו נקביו (two thirds down the Amud) until “אמר רבא” (the bottom of the Amud)
Questions:
The Braissa says a bathhouse in which the holes were closed before Shabbos is permitted to bath inside of immediately after Shabbos.
What is the chiddush?
See Rashi
Learn ר”ן “מרחץ
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=586
The Gemara records a story in which Rebbe Elazar Ben Azaria and Rebbe Akiva went into a bath house to be מזיע. Afterwards they went into the outer room in which the hot water was covered by boards and showered.
Did they take a hot shower or cold shower?
Learn תוס’ “אלא
The Gemara says the bathhouse attendants started hearing water on Shabbos and saying it was heated on Friday. Was the Rabanan concerned that a Jewish person would intentionally violate Shabbos by heating up water?
Learn ר”ן “אמר ר’ שמעון בן פזי
The Braissa says that it is permitted to enter a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov. Is it also permitted on Shabbos?
Does the Rabinic prohibition of bathing ones body in hot water also prohibit entering a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov?
Learn תוס’ “למוצאי
Learn רשב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=60
Continue learning the Gemara גמרא דף מ. “אמר רבא until “דף מ: “ת”ר מתחמם אדם (fourth line)
Question:
Is it permitted to enter a bathhouse of a large city with intent to be מזיע?
Learn ר”ן “גרסינן בגמרא אמבטיאות
In conclusion:
What type of bathing is permitted on Shabbos? On Yom tov?
Learn ר”ן “הלכך
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ שכ”ו סע’ א with the משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=326
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=327
May one bathe in a river?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ שכ”ו סע’ ז with the משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=328
May one bathe in a cold bath?
May one immerse in a mikveh on Shabbos?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’ שכ”ו סע’ ח
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&st=&pgnum=181&hilite=
Learn מגן אברהם ס”ק ח
Learn משנה ברורה ס”ק כד
And ביאור הלכה “אדם מותר
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=329
May the water of the mikveh be heated before Shabbos?
Review the גמרא דף מ. “א”ל רב יוסף לאביי (middle of the Amud) until “אמר רבא” (the bottom of the Amud)
Questions:
The Braissa says a bathhouse in which the holes were closed before Shabbos is permitted to bath inside of immediately after Shabbos.
What is the chiddush?
See Rashi
Learn ר”ן “מרחץ
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=586
The Gemara says the bathhouse attendants started hearing water on Shabbos and saying it was heated on Friday. Was the Rabanan concerned that a Jewish person would intentionally violate Shabbos by hearing up water?
Learn ר”ן “אמר ר’ שמעון בן פזי
The Braissa says that it is permitted to enter a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov. Is it also permitted on Shabbos?
Does the Rabinic prohibition of bathing ones body in hot water also prohibit entering a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov?
Learn תוס’ “למוצאי
Learn רשב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=60
Continue learning the Gemara גמרא דף מ. “אמר רבא until “דף מ: “ת”ר מתחמם אדם (fourth line)
Question:
Is it permitted to enter a bathhouse of a large city with intent to be מזיע?
Learn ר”ן “גרסינן בגמרא אמבטיאות
In conclusion:
What type of bathing is permitted on Shabbos? On Yom tov?
Learn ר”ן “הלכך
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Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה:
In conclusion – Is it required to have the conditions of עודה בידו and דעתו להחזיר in order to return pot on to a stovetop?
In the event that a pot was removed from the stovetop and placed on the ground with intent to return, may one return the pot to the fire?
Review שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב
Review משנה ברורה ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק נ”ו, ביאור הלכה “ודעתו להחזיר and שער הציון אות נ
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49
Continue learning the רמ”א ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב
Focus on the יש אומרים שכל זה אינו אסור – the chidush of the ר”ן from the ירושלמי
See משנה ברורה ס”ק סג-סז
Major Question:
Why does the Mishna Berura not permit returning a pot to the fire when it was placed on the ground with intent to return as the Rema says was the accepted practice?
Can we rely on the ruling of the ר”ן in cases of בדיעבד ?
Learn חזון איש או”ח ס’ ל”ז ס”ק יב
See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כא-כב
And קובץ הלכות פרק כו סעיף מה with footnote סג
Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to have specific intent to return or as long as do not have specific intent not to return.
What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech on to the counter top, may it be returned to the blech?
If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?
Learn הגהות רע”א על שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג אות ו
What is the reason if someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?
According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removes from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?
Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger
Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop?
What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?
See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Auerbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.
Review the גמרא דף מ. “א”ל רב יוסף לאביי (middle of the Amud) until “אמר רבא” (the bottom of the Amud)
Questions:
The Braisa says a bathhouse in which the holes were closed before Shabbos is permitted to bath inside of immediately after Shabbos.
What is the chiddush?
See Rashi
Learn ר”ן “מרחץ
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37953&st=&pgnum=586
The Gemara says the bathhouse attendants started hearing water on Shabbos and saying it was heated on Friday. Was the Rabanan concerned that a Jewish person would intentionally violate Shabbos by hearing up water?
Learn ר”ן “אמר ר’ שמעון בן פזי
The Braissa says that it is permitted to enter a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov. Is it also permitted on Shabbos?
Does the Rabinic prohibition of bathing ones body in hot water also prohibit entering a bathhouse להזיע on Yom tov?
Learn תוס’ “למוצאי
Learn רשב”א
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&st=&pgnum=60
Continue learning the Gemara גמרא דף מ. “אמר רבא until “דף מ: “ת”ר מתחמם אדם (fourth line)
Question:
Is it permitted to enter a bathhouse of a large city with intent to be מזיע?
Learn ר”ן “גרסינן בגמרא אמבטיאות
In conclusion:
What type of bathing is permitted on Shabbos? On Yom tov?
Learn ר”ן “הלכך
Review the גמרא דף מ. “איתמר until א”ל רב יוסף לאביי” (middle of the Amud)
Continue learning the Gemara until “אמר רבא” (last line of the Amud)
Learn תוס’ “למוצאי
Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה:
In conclusion is it required to have the conditions of עודה בידו and דעתו להחזיר in order to return pot on to a stovetop?
In the event that a pot was removed from the stovetop and placed on the ground with intent to return, may one return the pot to the fire?
Review שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב
Review משנה ברורה ס’ רנ”ג ס”ק נ”ו, ביאור הלכה “ודעתו להחזיר and שער הציון אות נ
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49
Continue learning the רמ”א ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב
Focus on the יש אומרים שכל זה אינו אסור – the chidush of the ר”ן from the ירושלמי
See משנה ברורה ס”ק סג-סז
Major Question:
Why does the Mishna Berura not permit returning a pot to the fire when it was placed on the ground with intent to return as the Rema says was the accepted practice?
Can we rely on the ruling of the ר”ן in cases of בדיעבד ?
Learn חזון איש או”ח ס’ ל”ז ס”ק יב
See שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כא-כב
And קובץ הלכות פרק כו סעיף מה with footnote סג
Learn the גמרא דף לט: “אמר רבה בר בר חנה (six lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מ. “איתמר (forth line of the Amud)
Continue learning the גמרא דף מ. “איתמר until א”ל רב יוסף לאביי” (middle of the Amud)
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Very quickly review גמרא דף לט: “א”ר איקאה בר חנניא להשתטף כל גופו (two dots) until “א”ל רב יוסף (five lines before the bottom of the Amud)
Questions:
How do we know that they are arguing about water that was heated on Friday?
Learn תוס’ “בין בחמין
Which מחלוקת is רב חסדא qualifying?
Why is it permitted if the water is pool in the ground ?
What is the Gemara question from מעשה שעשו אנשי טבריא – that water was heated in Shabbos not on Friday?
Learn תוס’ “והא
Review the גמרא דף לט: “מעשה שעשו אנשי טבריא (two dots) until “א”ל רב יוסף (five lines before the bottom of the Amud)
Questions:
How does establishing the case of our Mishna that it’s discussing”להשתטף כל גופו” answer the question of the Gemara?
See תוס’ דף לט: “הא who states there is a difference between רחיצה & שטיפה (last Tosfos of the Amud – but is really on first part of the Gemara)
According to which of the three opinions is our Mishna in accordance with ; ר”מ, ר”ש, ור”י?
What is the question of the Gemara from the “מעשה שעשו אנשי טבריא”?
Start learning the Tosfos on the Gemara
Conclusion “גמרא דף לח: “חזרה
Halachic Conclusion:
How do we rule l’halacha in regards to the conditions of עודה בידו and דעתו להחזיר in order to return pot onto a stovetop as the Gemara lists different opinions whether both, one or none are required?
In the event that a pot was removed from the stovetop and lacking the condition of either holding on hand or intent to return may one return the pot to the fire?
Learn ר”ן דף יז: דפי הריף “לא שנו
Learn רא”ש ס’ ב last two lines
Learn רמב”ם ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י
Learn טור ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב
Learn beginning of שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב
What is the ruling of the Mechaber?
What is the ruling of the Rema?
What is the Rema adding by stating the condition of עודה בידו to the Mechaber who says if placed on ground it may not be returned?
Learn משנה ברורה on beginning of סעיף ב
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