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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 9B: Mishna HaSuma Ainoh Goleh And Gemara (06/26/2013)

Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 9B: Mishna HaSuma Ainoh Goleh And Gemara

Learn the first משנה ט עמוד ב and the גמרא until the end of the third wide line.

Questions;
  • Why is a סומא exempt from גלות?  See רמב”ם ה’ רוצח ו,יד
  • If רבי יהודה is using “בבלי דעת” to exclude מתכוין then it is still a מיעוט אחר מיעוט which should include a סומא for going to גלות?
Major question:  There are two elements to the concept that a person needs התראה .
  • 1. To determine the crime was committed intentionally.  2. To warn the person of the punishment he is culpable for committing this crime.  How could ר’ יוסי hold the שונא is חייב מיתה even though we take for granted he murdered intentionally but who says the שונא knows the severity of the punishment for murder? ריטב”א ו: ” דתניא
Point to ponder:
  • Does the תנא קמא disagree with ר’ שמעון? and if so why? ערוך לנר, רש”ש, תוס’ ב. “מעידין” .. אבל קשה

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Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 9A to 9B: Aisivei Rava (06/24/2013)

06/24/13 Makkot 9A to 9B: Aisivei Rava Listen / 0:16:05

Quickly review גמרא ט עמוד א from bottom of עמוד until משנה עמוד ב.

Learn מהרש”א “ממך למד that explains the word ממך – from you, is misleading & what the גמרא really means is “from him (אברהם אבינו)”.  The מהרש”א also gives an additional explanation which is more grammatically correct with the definition of the word ממך.
Learn משנה ט עמוד ב and the גמרא until the first wide line.
  • Point to ponder: Why is a סומא exempt from גלות?
  • Question; If רבי יהודה is using “בבלי דעת” to exclude מתכוין then it is still a מיעוט אחר מיעוט which should be used to include סומא?