Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah: Muktza יום חמישי Shiva Asar B’Tamuz, דף מה (07/02/26)

When and where does a תנאי – condition help to make an item not Muktzah?

Learn “תוס’ “ואם that a condition only works by סוכה רעועה

Learn “תוס’ דף מד. “שבנר

Learn ר”ן דף מד. “והא דמסקינן and ח’ ר”ן דף מה who brings the opinion of the רמב”ן that a תנאי – condition always works.

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See בית יוסף ס’ רע”ט who brings the opinion of the ריב”ש that a condition does not work. 

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Continue learning the גמרא דף מה. “אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל (15 lines from bottom of the Amud) until “בעי מיניה (last line of the Amud)

Learn תוס’ “אלא”, “וכן” & “היכא

What is the reason that ר”ש agrees that גרוגרות וצימוקים are Muktzah?

At what point do they become Muktzah? – the second Shabbos starts even if they are still edible, or only after they become inedible?

If when Shabbos started they were not ripe and in the middle of Shabbos they became edible, may one eat them? 

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