Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Fourth Perek, Wednesday night shiur, Iyar 27 Daf 42b (05/17/23)

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Quickly review the first Mishna of the fourth Perek. 

Review “תוספות “לולב

Learn the ר”ן who asks simply whenever the first day of Sukkos coincides with Shabbos there will be no meat from the קרבן שלמים

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Why didn’t Tosfos ask from the simpler case like the Ran?

How did Tosfos answer his question?

What changed in Tosfos answer from his original understanding? 

Question:

Is the mitzvah of simchas Yom tov from the Torah exclusively with eating the meat of the korban shelomim or does it include other items that make one happy?

See wording of ר”ן 

Learn one or two fo the following Tosfos  תוספת מועד קטן יד: “עשה” & תוספת פסחים דף קט. “במה” & חגיגה ו. “דמחייבא

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https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=13&daf=6&format=pdf

Learn רמב״ם הלכות יום טוב פרק ו הלכה יז-יט

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Where is it implicit that the eight days of simcha eating the meat of the korban shlamim needs to be eaten in the evening as well? 

Why didn’t Tosfos ask from a simpler case; indeed every motzei Shabbos on Sukkos one can’t eat meat of the קרבן שלמים as the korban is not brought on Shabbos and the earliest it may be brought is Friday which then makes the meat prohibited to be eaten on the second night?  

Learn (מהרש”ל (חכמת שלמה (underneath the מהרש”א) who gives a simple answer based on the Gemara immediately after the first Mishna דף מח

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Learn the מהרש”א who challenges the explanation of the מהרש”ל and offers a different explanation