Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah: Monday night shiur, Iyar 4 Daf 42a – 42b (04/24/23)

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Quickly review גמרא דף מב. “היודע לשמור גופו (six lines from bottom of the Amud) until דף מב: “יכול לאכול כזית (second line)

Age for קטן to be נושא כפיו:

Learn תוספת “היודע 

Who asks on Rashi how could the braissa be referring to a bar mitzvah boy if the braissa is dealing with קטנים- minors?

Learn משנה גמרא מגילה דף כד. “… ואינו נושא את כפיו 

with “רש”י “ואינו 

and “תוספת “ואין 

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=11&daf=24&format=pdf

Question:

How can we answer Tosfos’ question on Rashi?

Halacha

What do we conclude lhalacha as to the minimum age for a kohen to דוכן? 

Learn שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ קכ”ח סעיף לד with the משנה ברורה and ביאור הלכה 

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Review גמרא דף מב: “היודע לשחוט (top of the Amud) until דף מב: “יכול לאכול כזית צלי (eighth line from top of the Amud) 

Relying on קטנים for Shechita:

Learn תוספת “והיודע

Questions:

When can one rely on a קטן to perform Shechita on an animal?

Can a קטן be a Shochet?

The ר”ן asks a contradiction to our Gemara from the Mishna חולין דף ב and גמרא חולין דף מב עמוד ב which says that one may not give animals to a child to slaughter and only in the event that he did slaughter correctly as an adult was supervising may it be eaten? 

The Ran reconciles the contradiction and explains that the Gemara in Chulin is dealing with a child who is unskilled at slaughtering therefore he may not be given animals to slaughter lest an error will result however our Gemara is dealing with a trained skilled minor and he may be given animals to slaughter as long as there is an adult supervising. 

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=623

Learn תוספת חולין דף ב. “שמא which brings the opinion of ר”ת who argues on Rashi in Chulin and explained the Gemara in Chulin that one may not give a child an animal to slaughter when there is no adult supervision.

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=31&daf=2&format=pdf

According to ר”ת how do we reconcile the contradiction from the Gemara in Chulin to our Gemara?

See the טור יורה דעה ס’ א סעיף ה and the ב”ח “וקטן.

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Learn the שולחן ערוך יורה דעה סימן א סעיף ה with the ט”ז ס”ק יד and ש”ך ס”ק כה & כ”ו

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