Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Sukkah – Lulav Hagazul (Evening Chabura): Wednesday night shiur, Tamuz 29, Daf 36a (07/27/22)

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Review the “גמרא דף לו. “נסדק ניקב (two dots – first line of the Amud) until בעי רבא (third line)
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=36&format=pdf

Review רמב״ם הלכות לולב פרק ח הלכה ז and the השגות הראב”ד on the side of the Rambam who argues on the Rambam.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=58958&st=&pgnum=291

Write out the two opinions (Rashi & Raavad) who argue how to learn the Gemara as to what holes/dents disqualify an Esrog.

Learn ר”ן על המשנה דף יז. דפי הריף “נסדק” & ” ניקב
Carefully read the last few lines of the Ran
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=616

Does the Ran explain like Rashi or like the Raavad?

Question:
According to Rashi, Rambam, and Rosh why does a נקב מפולש or a hole the size of a coin disqualify the Esrog even though it is not חסר?
See ריטבא דף כט: “נמצינו למדין until “וכל שאמרנו שפסול
See חיי אדם כלל קנא ה’ לולב סעיף ב (last line)
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49395&st=&pgnum=379

According to the Raavad if the reason why ניקב is pasul is only when part of the Esrog is missing – חסר why does the size of how much is missing differ when it’s מפולש or not מפולש?

Learn the Gemara דף לו. “בעי רבא (third line) until ת”ש
https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=36&format=pdf

Question:
Why do the סימני טריפה of an animal apply to an Esrog?
See פני יהושע https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=19251&st=&pgnum=520

Learn the ראש ס’ י”ח starting from “ניקב (third line) until וכן מסתבר
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=479&hilite=

Question:
According to the Rosh, why is an Esrog which is pierced to its core (where the seeds are located) Pasul?

Learn “תוספת “אי
Tosfos discusses three points

  1. How much has to be cracked to be disqualified from נסדק.
  2. The statement of תנינא by ניקב is different than by נקלף & נסדק.
  3. A hole that reaches to the core is considered a נקב מפולש.

How do we rule according to Halacha?
Learn שולחן ערוך ס’תרמ”ח סעיף ב & ג with the משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=234