Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Makkos 16A: Sugya of Kum Lai BiDiraba Mineai (03/26/2014)
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Learn the .גמרא טז from “אלא אמר רב שימי מנהרדעא ” (middle of the wide lines) until the top of “טז: ” והא איכא
Question on previous גמרא :
- In order to apply the דין of קם ליה בדרבה מיניה both violations have to be violated at the same time :רש”י טו says the violation of the לאו is immediately and the nullification of the עשה is akin to nullification of a תנאי. So how is the culpability of death penalty from murder coming at the same time as the culpability for מלקות which comes at the time of violation of the לאו ? Learn ערוך לנר “בדרבה מיניה for an answer
Major Question:
- How do we reconcile this to .רש”י טו who says according to the opinion of of ביטלו ולא ביטלו the לאו is only completed upon the nullification of the עשה ?
Points to ponder:
- The גליון הש”ס presents two more scenarios where the husband would not חייב מיתה for killing his ex-wife. Why can’t these cases be a viable option of culpability for lashes according to the opinion of bitlo vlo bitlo.
- How can husband be a שליח for the wife to receive her קידושין to another man but we have a rule אין שליח לדבר עבירה ?
Learn “תוס’ “כגון
Bring a proof from the גמרא that there is no מצוה of והשיב את הגזילה when the object is no longer in existence.
