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Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה: 

What is the halacha in the cases below? 

Are these cases similar to the case and machlokes between Rebbe Akiva Eiger & Rav Shachris or different?

If it is different is it more of a reason to say it is permissable to return to the bleach or prohibited?  – Why?

1. A pot slides off the blech on to the counter top?

2. A pot slides to the floor?

3. The electricity or fire goes out?

(See אגרות משה או”ח חלק ד ס’ ע”ד בישול אות לא, קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מט והערה סח, שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כז והערה עט, שו”ת בצל החכמה חלק ד ס’ קלז ס”ק יט, אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מט והערה פב)

4. The electricity goes out and a few hours later goes back on by the electric company and the food remained on hot plate the entire time?

See אורחת שבת above)

5. Someone mistakenly takes the Shabbos day cholent off the fire thinking it is the chicken soup pot for the Friday night sueda and places on the counter without intent to return?

What if he places it on the ground?

(See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ גם והערה עה, שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כג והערה עה ,שו”ת בצל החכמה חלק ד ס’ קלז ס”ק יח, אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מה והערה עח)

Questions:

Write a summary of the laws of chazarah and all it’s conditions based on שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב and the משנה ברורה 

In case of need which conditions do not need to be met?  

What are the following surfaces more comparable to – placing on a bed or placing on the floor?

Kitchen countertop, table, refrigerator?

See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מז והערה אות סו 

and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מה והערה עג 

And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה ס -סא

For the condition of עודו בידו does one need to hold the pot in their hands or is placing on the counter and keeping ones hand onto the pot handle sufficient?

Would the same apply if placed the pot on the floor and held onto to the handle? 

See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מו והערה אות סד   

and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מז והערה עו 

And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה סב

In the event someone removed a hot pot from the fire on Friday before Shabbos and placed it on the counter with intent to place on the blech and discovered on Shabbos that he forgot to place on the blech. May he place on the blech on Shabbos?

See אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף נא והערה פד 

Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה: 

Review ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע which summarizes the halacha of the case of  Rebbe Akiva Eiger whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return but it is still in his hand.

What is the halacha in the cases below? 

Are these cases similar to the case and machlokes between Rebbe Akiva Eiger & Rav Shachris or different?

If it is different is it more of a reason to say it is permissable to return to the bleach or prohibited?  – Why?

1. A pot slides off the blech on to the counter top?

2. A pot slides to the floor?

3. The electricity or fire goes out?

(See אגרות משה או”ח חלק ד ס’ ע”ד בישול אות לא, קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מט והערה סח, שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כז והערה עט, שו”ת בצל החכמה חלק ד ס’ קלז ס”ק יט, אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מט והערה פב)

4. The electricity goes out and a few hours later goes back on by the electric company and the food remained on hot plate the entire time?

See אורחת שבת above)

5. Someone mistakenly takes the Shabbos day cholent off the fire thinking it is the chicken soup pot for the Friday night sueda and places on the counter without intent to return?

What if he places it on the ground?

(See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ גם והערה עה, שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כג והערה עה ,שו”ת בצל החכמה חלק ד ס’ קלז ס”ק יח, אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מה והערה עח)

Write a summary of the laws of chazarah and all it’s conditions based on שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב and the משנה ברורה 

In case of need which conditions do not need to be met?  

Questions:

What are the following surfaces more comparable to – placing on a bed or placing on the floor?

Kitchen countertop, table, refrigerator?

See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מז והערה אות סו 

and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מה והערה עג 

And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה ס -סא

For the condition of עודו בידו does one need to hold the pot in their hands or is placing on the counter and keeping ones hand onto the pot handle sufficient?

Would the same apply if placed the pot on the floor and held onto to the handle? 

See קובץ הלכות ה’ שבת חלק ב פרק כו סע’ מו והערה אות סד   

and אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף מז והערה עו 

And שמירת שבת כהלכתו פרק א סעיף כ אות ד והערה סב

In the event someone removed a hot pot from the fire on Friday before Shabbos and placed it on the counter with intent to place on the blech and discovered on Shabbos that he forgot to place on the blech. May he place on the blech on Shabbos?

See אורחת שבת ח”א פרק ב סעיף נא והערה פד 

Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה: 

Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to 

A) Have specific intent to return, or 

B) As long as there is no specific intent not to return?

What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech onto the countertop, may it be returned to the blech?

If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?

Review ה’ רע”א ס’ רנ”ג אות ו 

What is the reason if someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?

According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?

Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger 

Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע which summarizes the halacha of the case of  Rebbe Akiva Eiger

Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop? 

What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?

See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Aurbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.

Halachic Conclusions of הלכות חזרה:

Review שולחן ערוך ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב with משנה ברורה

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&st=&pgnum=49

Question:

If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and places it in the ground is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?

If someone removes your pot from the fire on Shabbos and does not have intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand. Is it permitted to return it to the stovetop?

Learn ה’ רע”א ס’ רנ”ג אות ו 

Learn ביאור הלכה ס’ רנ”ג סעיף ב “ואם הניח על גבי קרקע 

Point to consider 

Is the requirement of דעתו להחזיר to have specific intent to return or as long as do not have specific intent not to return?

What is the halacha if a pot slides off the blech onto the countertop, may it be returned to the blech?

If the electricity or fire goes out is it permitted to move the pot to a different fire?

What is the reason if someone removed your pot from the fire on Shabbos and placed it on the ground it is prohibited to return it to the stovetop?

According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger what is the machlokes between Tosfos and the Rash whether it is permitted to return a pot to the stovetop that was removed from the fire without permission of the owner without intent to return it to the fire but it is still in his hand?

Learn אבי עזרי ה’ שבת פרק ג הלכה י who asks a question on Rebbe Akiva Eiger 

Based on Rebbe Akiva Eiger what should be the halacha in the case a pot slides off the stovetop? 

What is the point of disagreement between Rav Shach (אבי עזרי) and Rebbe Akiva Eiger?

See letter in back of ספר אורחת שבת ח”א from Hagaon Rav Shmuel Auerbach zt”l for an answer to the question of Rav Shach.