Monthly Archive: November 2022

Very quickly review the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה (eight lines from top of the Amud) until “ואמר רבה הדס במחובר”

Is it permitted to smell haddasim which are being used as schach?

Learn רן דף יח. דפי הריף “הדס של מצוה (middle of the wide lines)

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=618&hilite=

See גמרא דף י: מנימין עבדיה דרב אשי (fourth line from top of the Amud) until אתמר

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=10b&format=pdf

Questions:

If the Drasha prohibits usage of the schach then why didn’t Rav Ashi raise an objection to using the schach as a clothes line?

See ט”ז ס’ תרל”ח ס”ק ג starting from ועל כן נראה פשוט

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=369

See שולחן ערוך ס’ תרל”ח last two lines of סעיף ב “אם סכך בהדס and משנה ברורה ס”ק כה & כו and שער הציון אות ל

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=208

We discussed an argument between the מרדכי and the ש”ך
The (מרדכי (פסחים פרק שני אות תקמז derives from the prohibition to smell the Haddasim that it is only forbidden to smell איסורי הנאה whose primary function are to produce a nice fragrance. But if scent is not the primary function than it is permitted to smell them as we apply the rule דייט לאו מילתא
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14315&st=&pgnum=421

The ש”ך יו”ד ס’ ק”ח ס”ק כז disagrees and says that our Gemara implies the opposite. Only in regards to muktza is it permitted to smell the item if it’s primary function is not for smell. But for איסורי הנאה it is prohibited to derive pleasure from their fragrance regardless of their primary or secondary purpose.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9145&st=&pgnum=513

Questions:
What is the point of disagreement between the מרדכי and the ש”ך?
The מרדכי – Special drasha that the Daled minim are consecrated to Hashem.
The ש”ך – They are designated for a mitzvah.

See “רש”י “אסור להריח
Questions:
Why does Rashi list both the reason of חל שם שמים – איסור הנאה and מוקצה?

If the source for the prohibition is the drasha which makes the Haddasim into איסורי הנאה than why is it permitted to smell an Esrog?
See שפת אמת דף לז. “אמר רבה הדס של מצוה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14522&st=&pgnum=198

Continue learning the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס במחובר until the Mishna

Questions:
Did someone who mistakenly held the Lulav in the left hand and Esrog in the right hand fulfill the Mitzvah of Daled Minim?
Does he need to pick the Daled minim up again in the correct hand?
See the גמרא מב. “אמר אביי כשהפכו and רש”י an רבינו חננאל “א”ר אמי

Learn the מאירי
And מגן אברהם ס’ תרנ”א ס”ק ט
How do we rule lhalacha?
See שולחן ערוך ס’ תרנ”א סעיף ג and משנה ברורה ס”ק יט

Learn the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה (eight lines from top of the Amud) until “ואמר רבה הדס במחובר”

Question:
What is the reason it is prohibited to smell the haddasim?

1. Special drasha that the Daled minim are consecrated to Hashem
2. They are designated for a mitzvah.

See “רש”י “אסור להריח

Learn גמרא דף ט. “דאמר רב ששת (fourth mine of the Gemara) until ובית שמאי
Learn תוספת דף ט. “מנין
Clarify the two explanations of Tosfos as to when there is a drasha from the Torah prohibiting the use of schach and when we need the takana drabanan of muktza.

Questions:

How does Rashi extrapolate the prohibition of smelling the haddasim from schach which has a special drasha?
If the source for the prohibition is the drasha then why is it permitted to smell an Esrog?

See מרדכי גמרא פסחים פרק שני אות תקמ”ז who derives a halacha in all איסורי הנאה from our Gemara

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14315&st=&pgnum=421

See ש”ך יו”ד ס’ ק”ח ס”ק כז who asks that our Gemara implies the opposite.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9145&st=&pgnum=513

See שפת אמת דף לז. “אמר רבה הדס של מצוה

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14522&st=&pgnum=198

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14522&st=&pgnum=199

Is it permitted to smell haddasim which are being used as schach?

Learn רן דף יח. דפי הריף “הדס של מצוה (middle of the wide lines)

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=618&hilite=

See גמרא דף י: מנימין עבדיה דרב אשי (fourth line from top of the Amud) until אתמר

https://hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=7&daf=10b&format=pdf

Questions:

If the Drasha prohibits usage of the schach then why didn’t Rav Ashi raise an objection to using the schach as a clothes line?

See ט”ז ס’ תרל”ח ס”ק ג starting from ועל כן נראה פשוט

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=369

See שולחן ערוך ס’ תרל”ח last two lines of סעיף ב “אם סכך בהדס and משנה ברורה ס”ק כה & כו and שער הציון אות ל

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=208

Review the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה (three lines from top of the Amud) until ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה

Questions:
Rabbah and Rava disagree when there’s a separated leaf from the haddasim or Aravos whether it is considered a חציצה
What is the additional chiddush in the argument betwéen Rabbah and Rava by the case of the cut off leaves of the Lulav?
Why does the Rif and Rambam not bring the halacha of the case of cutting off the bottom of the lulav when it’s inside the bundle?
Learn Aruch L’Ner for an answer
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14414&st=&pgnum=143

Why would a separated leaf stuck between Hadas and Lulav be a Chatzitza? Earlier we only discussed a chatzitza between one’s hand and the daled minim, where is the source that the daled minim needs to be stuck together without a separation?
See Rashash
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14319&st=&pgnum=514

Would the answer to this question differ based on the machlokes between Tosfos and the Ran regarding what is the disqualification in all the cases of Rabbah and Rava. (Tosfos- חציצה, Ran- lack of לקיחה תמה)?
Bring a proof from Rashi what the issue is.

According to Rabbah would one be inquired to inspect that there are no detached leaves stuck between his lulav and haddas ?

Review the שולחן ערוך ס’ תרנ”א סעיף ז with the משנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=252

The Rama says the minhag is to remove the tefillin straps and rings from one’s finger when holding the Daled minim but according to the letter of the law it is not necessary.
Questions:
Why is it not absolutely necessary?
See מגן אברהם ס”ק יח and ב’ הגר”א אות כב who give different explanations
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14327&st=&pgnum=397
See משנה ברורה ס”ק לו for his halachik ruling
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60391&st=&pgnum=252

Does one have to remove the rings from their fingers before taking the Daled minim?
Does one have to remove a bandaid from his hand when taking the Daled minim?
What should one do if he has a non removable cast?
Is this the same as the halacha in regards to rings and bandages for netilas yadayim?
See שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ קסא סעיף א ומשנה ברורה ס”ק א & ד
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=113
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=114
See ס’ קסב סעיף י ומשנה ברורה ס”ק סח regarding bandage
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=122
Regarding rings see שולחן ערוך אורח חיים ס’ קסא סעיף ג ומשנה ברורה
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=60387&st=&pgnum=115

For Halacha of Daled Minim:
See ערוך השולחן ס’ תרנ”א סעיף כ
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9102&st=&pgnum=411
See הליכות שלמה סוכה פרק יט הלכה טו with footnote דבר הלכה אות כה
See קובץ הלכות סוכה פרק לו סעיף יד-טו

Learn the גמרא דף לז: “ואמר רבה הדס של מצוה (eight lines from top of the Amud) until “ואמר רבה הדס במחובר”

Question:
What is the source for the prohibition of smelling the haddasim?
See “רש”י “אסור להריח
Learn גמרא דף ט. “דאמר רב ששת (fourth line of the Gemara) until ובית שמאי
Learn תוספת דף ט. “מנין
Clarify the two explanations of Tosfos as to when there is a drasha from the Torah prohibiting the use of schach and when we need the takana drabanan of muktza.

Questions:
How does Rashi extrapolate the prohibition of smelling the haddasim from schach which has a special drasha?
If the source for the prohibition is the drasha then why is it permitted to smell an Esrog?

Is it permitted to smell haddasim which are being used as schach?
Learn רן דף יח. דפי הריף “הדס של מצוה (middle of the wide lines)

See שפת אמת דף לז. “אמר רבה הדס של מצוה