{"id":35680,"date":"2026-08-06T18:08:00","date_gmt":"2026-08-06T18:08:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=35680"},"modified":"2026-08-06T22:09:02","modified_gmt":"2026-08-06T22:09:02","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-muktza-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-av-23-%d7%93%d7%a3-%d7%9e%d7%95-08-06-26","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-muktza-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%97%d7%9e%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%99-av-23-%d7%93%d7%a3-%d7%9e%d7%95-08-06-26\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah: Muktza &#8211; \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d7\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d9, Av 23 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d5: (08\/06\/26)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbossugyaofmuktzah08062026.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learn the &#8220;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d5: &#8220;\u05e8\u05de\u05d9 \u05dc\u05d9\u05d4 until &#8220;\u05de\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1 \u05e8\u05de\u05d9 \u05d1\u05e8 \u05d7\u05de\u05d0&#8221; (middle of the Amud)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Sugya &#8211; \u05d9\u05d5\u05e9\u05d1 \u05d5\u05de\u05e6\u05e4\u05d4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Major Question:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If \u05e8&#8221;\u05e9 does not hold of \u05de\u05d9\u05d2\u05d5 \u05d3\u05d0\u05ea\u05e7\u05e6\u05d0\u05d9&nbsp; &nbsp;than why does he require the condition of&nbsp;\u05d9\u05d5\u05e9\u05d1 \u05d5\u05de\u05e6\u05e4\u05d4?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There is a major machlokes between \u05e8&#8221;\u05d9 &amp; \u05e8&#8221;\u05e9 if a lantern that was lit at the beginning of Shabbos remains Muktzah for the entire Shabbos even after the flame is extinguished.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This machlokes is contingent on the concept of \u05de\u05d9\u05d2\u05d5 \u05d3\u05d0\u05ea\u05e7\u05e6\u05d0\u05d9 &#8211; something which is Muktza during Bein Hashmoshas remains Muktza for the entire Shabbos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Major Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What is the reasoning of \u05de\u05d9\u05d2\u05d5 \u05d3\u05d0\u05ea\u05e7\u05e6\u05d0\u05d9?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Review the&nbsp;\u05d0\u05e4\u05d9\u05e7\u05d9 \u05d9\u05dd \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d1 \u05e1&#8217;&nbsp;\u05d9\u05d8&nbsp;&#8211; first two paragraphs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Why does \u05e8&#8221;\u05e9 not hold of &#8211; \u05de\u05d9\u05d2\u05d5 \u05d3\u05d0\u05ea\u05e7\u05e6\u05d0\u05d9?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learn&nbsp;\u05d0\u05e4\u05d9\u05e7\u05d9 \u05d9\u05dd \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d1 \u05e1&#8217;&nbsp;\u05d9\u05d8&nbsp;&#8211; (page \u05e8\u05d3 bottom of the right column &#8220;\u05d5\u05d4\u05e0\u05d4&#8221; for an incredible explanation)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Gemara brought two opinions in regards to a large container of oil if \u05e8&#8221;\u05e9 agrees that it is muktza even after the flame goes out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What is the explanation for their argument?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learn&nbsp;\u05d0\u05e4\u05d9\u05e7\u05d9 \u05d9\u05dd \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d1 \u05e1&#8217;&nbsp;\u05d9\u05d8&nbsp;&#8211; (page \u05e8\u05d3 bottom of the left column &#8220;\u05d5\u05de\u05d4 \u05e0\u05e2\u05d9\u05dd&#8221; for an incredible explanation.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learn \u05d7\u05d6\u05d5\u05df \u05d0\u05d9\u05e9&nbsp;\u05e1&#8217; \u05de\u05d0 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05d3<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=125&amp;hilite=\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=125&amp;hilite=<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Clarify each of their explanations&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learn &#8220;\u05e8\u05e9\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d7\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05df \u05d3\u05e3 \u05d8\u05d5 &#8220;\u05e2\u05d3 \u05db\u05d0\u05df \u05dc\u05d0 \u05e9\u05e8\u05d9 for his explanation of animal that was slaughtered on Shabbos to feed a sick person<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=215\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=40907&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=215<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Learn the &#8220;\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d5: &#8220;\u05e8\u05de\u05d9 \u05dc\u05d9\u05d4 until &#8220;\u05de\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1 \u05e8\u05de\u05d9 \u05d1\u05e8 \u05d7\u05de\u05d0&#8221; 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