{"id":35532,"date":"2026-07-13T16:26:00","date_gmt":"2026-07-13T16:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=35532"},"modified":"2026-07-14T02:31:00","modified_gmt":"2026-07-14T02:31:00","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-muktza-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-tamuz-2%d7%93%d7%a3-%d7%9e%d7%94-07-13-26-8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-muktza-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-tamuz-2%d7%93%d7%a3-%d7%9e%d7%94-07-13-26-8\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah: Muktza \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9, Tamuz 2\u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4: (07\/13\/26) 8"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbossugyaofmuktzah07132026.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learn the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4: &#8220;\u05d5\u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05dc\u05d9\u05ea \u05dc\u05d9\u05d4 \u05de\u05d5\u05e7\u05e6\u05d4 (third line) until &#8220;\u05d5\u05de\u05d9 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8&#8217; \u05d9\u05d5\u05d7\u05e0\u05df&#8221; (middle of the Amud)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Why would \u05e8&#8221;\u05e9 agree that certain herding animals are muktzah and may not be slaughtered on Yom Tov?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">How are they similar to \u05d2\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea \u05d5\u05e6\u05d9\u05de\u05d5\u05e7\u05d9\u05dd?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What is the deciding factor to make something Muktzah according to \u05e8&#8221;\u05e9?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tosfos explains that fruits placed on a rooftop to dry out are not Muktzah according to \u05e8&#8221;\u05e9 although they are not so enjoyable to eat. 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