{"id":35495,"date":"2026-07-06T22:50:00","date_gmt":"2026-07-06T22:50:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=35495"},"modified":"2026-07-07T02:50:14","modified_gmt":"2026-07-07T02:50:14","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-muktza-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-tamuz-22-%d7%93%d7%a3-%d7%9e%d7%94-%d7%9e%d7%94-07-06-26","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-muktza-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%99-tamuz-22-%d7%93%d7%a3-%d7%9e%d7%94-%d7%9e%d7%94-07-06-26\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah: Muktza \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9 , Tamuz 22 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4. &#8211; \u05de\u05d4: (07\/06\/26)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbossugyaofmuktzah07062026.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">How do we conclude l&#8217;halacha regarding a condition to use an item which is currently unusable when Shabbos starts?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learn \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05e2&#8221;\u05d8 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d3 and \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And \u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05e1&#8217; \u05ea\u05e8\u05dc&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2&#8217; \u05d1<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Why does the \u05e8\u05de&#8221;\u05d0 who says the Minhag is not to rely on a condition agree that a condition works for Sukkah decorations?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Review the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4. &#8220;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e9\u05de\u05d5\u05d0\u05dc (15 lines from bottom of the Amud) until &#8220;\u05d1\u05e2\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4 (last line of the Amud)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Why are other fruits that were placed on a rooftop to dry out, not Muktzah according to \u05e8&#8221;\u05e9?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05d0\u05dc\u05d0&#8221; &amp; &#8220;\u05d5\u05db\u05df<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">How is Tosfos different then&nbsp;Rashi?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What is a classic case of \u05dc\u05d0 \u05d3\u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d1\u05d9\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; &#8220;\u05d4\u05d9\u05db\u05d0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Review \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4. &#8220;\u05d0\u05dc\u05d0&nbsp; starting from &#8220;\u05ea\u05d9\u05de\u05d4 \u05dc\u05e8&#8221;\u05d9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tosfos does not answer his question.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05d0&#8221;\u05e9 &amp; \u05d7&#8217; \u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05df for two answers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Continue learning the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4.&#8221;\u05d1\u05e2\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4 (last line of the Amud) until \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4: &#8220;\u05d5\u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05dc\u05d9\u05ea \u05dc\u05d9\u05d4 \u05de\u05d5\u05e7\u05e6\u05d4 (third line)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Questions<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Why are \u05e4\u05e6\u05e2\u05d9\u05dc\u05d9 \u05ea\u05de\u05e8\u05d4 not Muktzah&nbsp;according to \u05e8&#8221;\u05e9? 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