{"id":35426,"date":"2026-06-24T17:59:00","date_gmt":"2026-06-24T17:59:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/?p=35426"},"modified":"2026-06-24T21:59:52","modified_gmt":"2026-06-24T21:59:52","slug":"rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-muktza-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a8%d7%91%d7%99%d7%a2%d7%99-tamuz-9-%d7%93%d7%a3-%d7%9e%d7%94-06-24-26","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ptiweb.org\/onshynbpti\/rabbi-baruch-bodenheim-gemara-shabbos-perek-kirah-muktza-%d7%99%d7%95%d7%9d-%d7%a8%d7%91%d7%99%d7%a2%d7%99-tamuz-9-%d7%93%d7%a3-%d7%9e%d7%94-06-24-26\/","title":{"rendered":"Rabbi Baruch Bodenheim: Gemara Shabbos: Perek Kirah: Muktza \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2\u05d9 Tamuz 9 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4 (06\/24\/26)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/images.shulcloud.com\/13521\/uploads\/YNB-PTI\/shiurim\/rabbibodenheim\/rabbibodenheimmorningchaburagemarashabbossugyaofmuktzah06242026.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Very quickly review the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4. &#8220;\u05d5\u05d4\u05d0 \u05d1\u05e2\u05d5 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4 (seven lines from the top of the Amud) until \u05d1\u05e2\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rav says for a \u05e9\u05e2\u05ea \u05d4\u05d3\u05d7\u05e7 one can rely on Rebbe Shimon opinion that we don&#8217;t say \u05de\u05d9\u05d2\u05d5 \u05d3\u05d0\u05ea\u05e7\u05e6\u05d0\u05d9&nbsp; &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the level of \u05e9\u05e2\u05ea \u05d4\u05d3\u05d7\u05e7 that would qualify to permit this?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rashi says &#8211; \u05e1\u05db\u05e0\u05d4&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What type of danger?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The \u05e8\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4. &#8220;\u05db\u05d3\u05d0\u05d9 &#8211; a monetary danger or physical injury.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14349&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=206\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14349&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=206<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The \u05d7&#8217; \u05e8\u05e2&#8221;\u05d0 says it has to have some remote chance of fatality.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn the \u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8217; \u05e8\u05e2&#8221;\u05d8 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d0&nbsp; who brings two different opinions in regards to the level of danger.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=66\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=66<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=67\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=14325&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=67<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See \u05e4\u05e8\u05d9 \u05de\u05d2\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd \u05d0\u05e9\u05dc \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d0&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=175\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=41248&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=175<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d0&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=123\">https:\/\/hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=60388&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=123<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05e8\u05d1 \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05df \u05d2\u05d0\u05d5\u05df on the side of the Gemara for an entirely new explanation of the case of \u05e9\u05e2\u05ea \u05d4\u05d3\u05d7\u05e7&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Major Question<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Even if we rely on Rebbe Shimon that only tells us that we don&#8217;t say \u05de\u05d9\u05d2\u05d5 \u05d3\u05d0\u05ea\u05e7\u05e6\u05d0\u05d9 and the menorah does not remain in state of Muktza as if it was lit.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But it should still be prohibited to move the menorah as it is at least a \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e9\u05de\u05dc\u05d0\u05db\u05ea\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8?&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Continue learning the \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de\u05d4. &#8220;\u05d1\u05e2\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4 until &#8220;\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05ea \u05dc\u05d9\u05d4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn \u05ea\u05d5\u05e1&#8217; 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